Jump to content

SerBronnsMullet

Members
  • Content Count

    65
  • Joined

  • Last visited

About SerBronnsMullet

  • Rank
    Freerider

Recent Profile Visitors

493 profile views
  1. This could be true but there is reason to believe there is a significant non-Lannister bloc at court. The fact that Jon Arryn gets Littlefinger, who worked his way up through the Vale admin, as master of coin and there are named Vale knights in KL indicates there is a Vale presence at court. Jon dying and Lysa fleeing probably killed the Vale court party. Renly has a significant force that he fled with during the Lannister coup, we know Stannis has his own court, though it's unclear who was at Dragonstone and who was at KL, and I believe a large portion of the force Ned sent to detain Gregor Clegane was made of Baratheon loyalists. We also don't know what the court was like earlier in Robert's reign or who MoL or MoC were before Renly and Littlefinger.
  2. We don't know that many Dornish characters so we have to go by what we are told and the characters we know. It's true that many people in Westeros have mistresses/lovers but Dornish paramours seem to be treated with more respect and closer to a spouse. Cersei thinks that Oberyn bringing Ellaria Sand as his wedding plus one is scandalous but also kind of shrugs it off and thinks that is just how the Dornish are. The closest examples to that I can think of are Lady Sam being Lyonel Hightower's paramour, which is viewed as unusual and the High Septon condemns it, though that might just be because she was his father's widow, and Aegon IV's many mistresses that became defacto queens, which is viewed as disgraceful by pretty much all of Westeros. The Ironborn also have salt wives but they are often glorified slave mistresses and everyone hates the Ironborn anyway. I disagree with the point about bastards. We get a lot of clear information that bastards are treated pretty well and there are a bunch of Sand characters. The Dornish nobility still internalize the values of the broader Westerosi nobility, which is why a bastard isn't a fit consort for the Dornish ruling family, but that does not mean they are treated the same as the rest of Westeros, The rest of the Westerosi nobility, even where a bastard has a prominent place, generally views bastards with suspicion. For example, Jon and Ramsay are probably the best treated bastards, but they are still mopey about their bastard status and are viewed with suspicion by other characters for their bastard status. Edric Storm is well treated but he's not allowed anywhere near court. The exceptions are the Ironborn, where salt kids are treated pretty well and can inherit although houses descended from salt wives are viewed with suspicion, and the dragonseeds, which seems to be a special case. Homosexuality is hard to tell because we don't have that many examples for Dorne and we know the rest of Westeros is relative tolerant of it.
  3. It's probably similar to how France. England, Spain, etc. were loyal to the Catholic Church in the Medieval period even though the pope would crown the Holy Roman emperor. But yeah, it was probably a little awkward. Along the same line of thought, it's interesting to imagine how in the pre-Targ era the Citadel and Faith functioned as pan-Westerosi institutions even though they were both housed in one kingdom and one city at that. Those institutions plus the common language probably made a united Westeros more palatable to people.
  4. I don't think Tywin had any interest in absolutism. He revoked the remainder of Egg's laws and restored some noble powers. As Hand for Joffrey and Tommen he let the Tyrells and Reach vassals take a lot of war spoils and gave them cushy political positions. Cersei is an absolutist because she has no interest in council and debate and wants to keep all the power and rewards for the crown. She even wants to build a new palace outside the city like Louis XIV. Egg was probably an absolutist but not a totalitarian. Totalitarian rule would be impossible for a medieval bureaucracy and if Egg didn't even force his kids to marry it's unlikely he would want to direct total control over society and the economy like Stalin or other totalitarian dictators.
×
×
  • Create New...