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  1. That's a really good point! I didn't even think of that! That sounds more like something Selyse was doing rather than Stannis. She's the one treating Gerrick Kingsblood like the king of the wildlings. Stannis never bought into that.
  2. Keep in mind that the Starks were losing men from the beginning. First there's a sizeable contingent of guards going south with Eddard, and we know what happens to them. Robb then musters an army in haste, so we can assume that a large part of it is made up of the men sworn directly to Winterfell, since they're the closest ones. He wouldn't really think about leaving a large garrison back home, nor did he suspect the Boltons of planning treachery (I have a feeling that Roose didn't announce his 600-man garrison. Besides that, there's also a bunch of Stark men mustered and combed together by Rodrik Cassel when he marches on Torrhen's Square, and then later besieges Winterfell. I'm not sure what those numbers are, but I'm fairly sure that the Starks are at least equal to the Boltons in strength. Manderly will presumably have more than either one of those houses, since they have the advantage of the city and some of the best land in the North.
  3. I always assumed that Mance being alive and hidden in plain sight by Melisandre was a secret that she wasn't sharing with anyone else. But the more I think about it, I can't help but wonder if Stannis might know about Mance still being alive. Melisandre is many things, but she's fanatically loyal to Stannis, so why would she undermine his pursuit of justice? And on the other hand, she also has influence over him. If anyone could persuade him to back down from his intent to execute Mance immediately, it is her. And maybe Stannis only agreed to postpone the execution? Another thing which makes me pause is the fact that so many people here think Stannis wrote the Pink Letter. I don't know if that's true, but if he did, then it means he is fully aware that Mance is still alive. Whether that validates the Pink Letter is another matter, of course, but there seems to be a surprising amount of leg room in the story where Stannis' knowledge is concerned. He could be oblivious to the plot, or maybe not.
  4. You cannot be serious. You have any idea how much information Mance would need to have before he even suspected that sending a catspaw to murder the second son of Lord Eddard Stark would get him the civil war he wanted? You have any idea how many different ways that plan could have gone south? And how would he get his hands on that dagger? It ONLY makes sense that the plan was arranged by a petulant little boy who didn't think beyond himself, who did something stupid because he overheard his dad say something equally stupid.
  5. The North is clearly isolationist in terms of trading with other people. White Harbour alone is the exception to that rule. If any Northmen are living on the coasts, they're probably living as fisherfolk rather than traders. Maybe there's a bit of trade flow between the various houses of the North, but there's lots of examples in real life of humans living on the coasts without relying on oceanic trade routes. The Ironborn are the true sea culture, so it makes sense that they raid or trade by travelling on the open water, but the North is pretty much self-reliant for a more primitive way of living than goes on in the Reach or Dorne or the Crownlands, or even the Riverlands for that matter.
  6. Robb Stark had by far the most righteous cause. And why should the North remain in the fold? None of the other kingdoms see it as a valuable place, they just want the North to stay in the kingdoms as, what, an example? A principle? Honestly, it's why I also support Balon somewhat, but he shouldn't have gone after the North in his conquest. He should have been smart and realised that he and the North both wanted the same things and even if he didn't help the North, he should have gone after the Westerlands and the Reach instead.
  7. Weird that I missed this, but that's a strange assumption to make when canon clearly states that the wildlings are known to raid the mountain clans regularly enough that two of their leaders visit Jon Snow to inquire about why he's allowing thousands of them south of the Wall.
  8. To be fair, not without the Wall. Given the state of the North by the end of ASOS, they're too scattered, depleted, and divided to hold back an army of 40-100,000 complete with its mammoth-riding giant corps. So if the wildlings had taken the Wall, the North would have been screwed.
  9. The North has been set up to value and honour the Nights Watch, even in its nadir. They still send men to the Wall, they still send food. It's not just about one generation of Starks being super involved.
  10. Yeah, I'm sure the Northerners would agree with that assessment. Wow. Not saying I believe that's what's going to happen, but imagine if the abomination had gone that route...
  11. Someone made a thread about this a while ago, and one of the responses was that Robb and Greywind's bodies, heads included, are probably at the bottom of a latrine pit in the Twins so that the Freys can spend their days shitting and pissing on them. That idea sat with me for a long time. I almost don't want to know what happened to the remains. What matters more will be the vengeance that falls upon House Frey.
  12. Makes a bit of sense, especially since the Bravoosi ships are apparently selling the wildling refugees from Mole's Town into slavery.
  13. Have you reread the series recently? Tywin throws shade on Ned several times. He even uses Ned to insult Robb when he points out Robb's marriage to Jeyne Westerling. He could have said Robb was a stupid, naive little boy in any number of ways, but he says "Robb is his father's son." Moments like that are very telling, especially since Tywin's relationship with every member of his family was passive aggressive at best. He resented Jaime for being stubbornly refusing to leave the Kingsguard, he's disgusted with Cersei for being an impulsive and overly emotional woman, and he loathes Tyrion's very existence. He also hated his father, avoided his sister after she pointed out that Tyrion was like him, quarrelled with two his brothers, browbeat the other into becoming his shadow. He also watched his father's bannermen exploit and mock him to no end, to the point where he had to obliterate two major houses in the Westerlands. When did Ned Stark ever have to do that? The North rallied to Eddard's side en masse, whether he was alive or dead. Ned led them into war twice, and then his family members continue to command complete loyalty from most of his bannermen, and the only two houses that did turn on House Stark only did so when Robb executed Rickard Karstark and the war turned against House Stark to the point that Roose Bolton could safely get away with his treason.
  14. Eddard's grandson, maybe, but not Tyrion. He would have had no support, not even from his Lannister guards. Nobody respected Tyrion. Sansa might not have actively tried to kill him, even if he did rape her (which he would have had to do in order to get her pregnant). I could certainly see her passively stand by and do nothing to help him. Or who knows, maybe she'd have been pushed into such a desperate situation that she'd open the door for his killers, or even kill him herself. Jaime would be pissed, but none of the others would care if Tyrion died. Maybe they'd use Tyrion's murder as an excuse to attaint several Northern houses that would be opposed to them? Try to install some families who'd be more compliant? Though they wouldn't last long in the North, just look at how fast the Boltons are going to be taken out. Tywin wasn't rewarding Tyrion; he wanted to get his son killed in a way that he wasn't responsible. He was sending him to the second or third most anti-Lannister place in the Seven Kingdoms so that he'd die after creating a half-Stark-half-Lannister baby to rule the North. I daresay Tywin probably didn't care whether Tyrion's line even continued, but as long as his enemies were divided and demoralised and further distanced from House Stark. In fact, I'd go so far as imagine that Tywin might even have resented the Starks for commanding such devotion from their men while Tywin ruled by fear alone.
  15. Why is this an issue? It's not like Manderly was the only one holding back his full force. House Dustin and House Ryswell both sent a small portion of their bannermen to the Northern army, and given how many men the Tallharts and Cerwyns still managed to summon, it's clear that they didn't commit their full forces either. None of those houses were in trouble from Robb for that. And that's another thing; Robb was moving in great haste to save his father and sisters from imprisonment. He didn't have time on his side, he summoned as many men as possible in as short a time as he could afford. And moreover, why would he leave the North completely undefended anyway? Those forces he left behind were ultimately needed, as we saw in the books.
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