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  1. Sigella

    Ramsay and Euron

    I will go again as a farewell gift: 1 Common freedmen didn't wear tokars, and was therefore exempted, so your argument is false. Textual evidence can be found upthread. 2 Do you blame the Allied forces presidents/leaders for what their soldiers did to german civilians after destroying their country? By your policy Churchill and the american president should've been hanged in N├╝rnberg as well, if you hadn't noticed.
  2. Sigella

    Is body swapping possible?

    Also consider their differences in "gift": Bran sits with 3EC in the cave and Varamyr was taught by some kind old freelance warg and wasn't invited under the hill.
  3. Sigella

    Is body swapping possible?

    Varamyr failed warging the old Spearwife because it was too hard (she was described as tough as an old beetroot). Likewise Bran could warg Hodor because it was easy (simple-minded and meek). So these are our parameters for human warging.
  4. Sigella

    Ramsay and Euron

    Are you holding every aSoIaF-leader responsible for what bacteria people who follow them around might get exposed to? I don't.
  5. Sigella

    Ramsay and Euron

    I still have more sympathy for freed slaves sacking their masters than I do for the tickler.
  6. Sigella

    Ramsay and Euron

    You're wrong here. Giving someone freedom isn't the same as accepting responsibility for their future actions. If you have a look at the quotes I wrote for Hugorphonic you'll surely see that a token isn't a neutral garment in any case, because they weren't written neutral.
  7. Sigella

    Ramsay and Euron

    About tokars Dany 1, aDoD: "The garment was a clumsy thing, a long loose shapeless sheet that had to be wound around her hips and under an arm and over a shoulder, its dangling fringes carefully layered and displayed. Wound too loose, it was like to fall off; wound too tight, it would tangle, trip, and bind. Even wound properly, the tokar required its wearer to hold it in place with the left hand. Walking in a tokar demanded small, mincing steps and exquisite balance, lest one tread upon those heavy trailing fringes. It was not a garment meant for any man who had to work. The tokar was a master's garment, a sign of wealth and power." The orders in sacking Astapor: "Slay the Good Masters, slay the soldiers, slay every man who wears a tokar or holds a whip" So effectively it means no workers or non-slavers was to be touched. What the freed slaves do isn't on Dany, she gave them freedom and they chose for themselves what to do with it.
  8. Sigella

    Ramsay and Euron

    Casualties aren't war crimes. Being killed during a sack isn't the same as being raped and tortured to death. Dany's attack on Astapor was executed cleaner than most. I'm interested to hear what you think should have been done, like are you proposing leaving them go on to train Unsullied children? Please explain to me how that would be morally better because I can't see it. For me every single Unsullied represents a worse fate than some young lordlings, who already spent all their formative years reaping the benefits from said Unsullied, getting speared. Its a no contest to me. Kraznys puts both Euron and Ramsay in the shade to touch back on topic "Lets force children to strangle puppies, yaaay"
  9. Sigella

    Ramsay and Euron

    It doesn't. Keeping slaves, training slaves and turning children into Unsullied however - seems a far worse crime against humanity than the ugliness of putting an end to it to me.
  10. Sigella

    Ramsay and Euron

    I don't hold people responsible for butterfly effects from their actions because it would be silly. 1 Dany frees the slaves 2 A big bunch starts to follow after her to Mereen 3 They set up camp outside with bad sanitary conditions 4 They get diseases It's totally unreasonable laying blame for something that wasn't her choice. If we start blaming people for stuff 4 causality joints away then Sansa killed Ned, Walder Frey is to blame for hangings of his offspring, Rob is to blame for the Red Wedding, Arya for the deaths of Mycah and Syrio Forel... I could go on because it's aSoIaF down the rabbit hole and read with funny goggles. edit: A direct result is something that happens at the second joint - as a direct result of no. 1.
  11. Sigella

    Ramsay and Euron

    Since when does diseases become Dany's fault?
  12. Sigella

    Ramsay and Euron

    I'd agree if Dany had every suspected Son of the Harpy questioned sharply, if she allowed Skahaz to torture-murder her hostages or followed any of Daario's advice on ruling. But she hasn't, so I won't. You seem keen on overlooking what I've said so I'll say it again: I don't count war or battlefields only what would be war crimes. So I'm not chiding Tywin for going to war, it's setting Gregor, the Tickler and Brave Companions loose on civilians I have a problem with. I.e torture-murder.
  13. Sigella

    Ramsay and Euron

    Again not a war crime and not comparable to torturing people to death. Not many sackings follows those kinds of orders anyway, so its a better invasion than most to me, especially as it is at least in part a means to end the despicable ghiscari way of work. Its a harsh punishment but no torture-murder.
  14. Sigella

    Is Walder Frey the smartest man in Westeros?

    I agree that Merret is a type of person nobody would trust, Frey or not. But it's kind of beside the point: "In the Twins, you learn early" is a statement about growing up there and, while I'm sure it differs from person to person, says something about the mentality there that is in line with how cold Big and Little Walder is concerning the deaths in the family, Old Walder breeding eight wives into the grave or the fact that a majority of them felt the Red Wedding being an ok thing to do. The only nice thing we know about house Frey is that old Walder takes care of his own and that that will end when he dies and his grandson succeeds. I admire your sunny view. I only get anxiety, greed and paranoia when trying to get the vibe of hose Frey.
  15. Sigella

    Is Walder Frey the smartest man in Westeros?

    Arya. I don't think she was a cold little assassin in aGoT, but that it is something she turns into in order to survive in her new circumstances post-aGoT. You misremember, it goes: "In the Twins, you learned early that only full blood siblings could be trusted, and them not very far." epilogue aSoS
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