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  1. RagnarokKing

    Aemon Targaryen survives, future of the dynasty queries

    Yep that's pretty much the answer. Adding on to that, we do have to consider that a lot of this history is stuff George made up, might not have completely thought through, and was then stuck with after the fact and had to work around. As in, he'd already established Rhaenys was married to Corlys, and Viserys originally to Aemma, then to Alicent, probably without considering the question why Rhaenys and Viserys weren't married to each other instead. Oh well...
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    Aemon Targaryen survives, future of the dynasty queries

    The lack of care and consideration that is shown in regards to the marriages of the second generation after Jaehaerys and Alysanne astounds me. Viserys and Rhaenys was such an obvious match, considering Aemon had no other children, his apparent closeness with his brother, and the amount of work that Jaehaerys and Alysanne put into establishing the "Doctrine of Exceptionalism." Only to allow Rhaenys to marry a man who could be her father, who had only distant Targaryen blood. I really don't understand this. Did Jaehaerys stop caring about the line of succession after who his immediate heir was? It's like no one gave any thought to the marriage to the heir's only child, and the problems that it could bring down the road.
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    Jon Snow being real Aegon

    Fair enough. However, unless Lyanna died before she could name Jon (once again assuming R+L=J), she likely would have given him a name. Is it plausible she died before she could do so? Certainly, after all we don't know enough of what went down in the order of events. The only thing we can be reasonable be certain of is that Lyanna extracted a promise from Ned. We generally think that Jon was already born when Eddard got up to the tower to me Lyanna, but it could just as well been the case that she was still in the throes of childbirth, and it all ending before she could give a name to the newborn Jon. Though for myself, while I will accept that we don't know, and that it is certainly plausible that Jon was not given a name by his mother, I will go on to think that Jon probably has another name he doesn't know about.
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    Jon Snow being real Aegon

    The very SSM you looks only proves Jon was named Jon by Eddard. If R+L=J is true it is quite possible Jon has a name his mother gave him (which that verys SSM points out that mother can do), which Eddard then changed.
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    Polygamy in the Faith of the Seven

    Prove it. Show me the quote from the books that proves Jaehaerys made this promise to the High Septon.
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    Are there Dragons besides the ones Daenerys hatched?

    It's possible there are more of them in them World, after all I believe George said their planet in slightly larger than ours, so plenty of places off the map (or even remote places on the maps), that could have dragons still living there; but I don't think we will still them in the story.
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    If the Conqueror had a daughter(s)...

    It is an interesting question to also consider how the Faith would have reacted to Aegon doing this with his children, and of course Aegon's subsequent reaction. I mean the High Septon did write a warning letter about the possible Maegor-Rhaena match, so one can assume poorly, however Aenys had demonstrated by the point of the Aegon-Rhaena marriage to be a weak king, while Aegon was powerful and feared (a bit larger than life). So it's possible that the High Septon might not have dared such aggression against Aegon as he did Aenys. Now as to the High Septon's opposition to the Maegor-Rhaena match, I strongly suspect that such opposition was political rather than theological. Incest, in AWOIAF or TSOTD (or both I can't remember) is only defined as siblings and parent-child by the Faith. So theologically the Maegor-Rhaena match, while not necessarily applauded, should have been acceptable at least. I think the High Septon opposed it because he wanted his niece to become a princess, and gain influence for the Hightowers and himself. And as for Aenys and Alyssa, I would propose that their opposition to the Maegor-Rhaena match was possibly because of Targaryen marriage tradition, because by marrying Rhaena to Maegor, they would deny their first-born son her hand. Had they no intention of doing this, Maegor would have been a fine match for Rhaena.
  8. I've started pondering something, if Aegon the Conqueror had a daughter(s), as in one of his sons was female, or his low/no fertility wasn't an issue and he had daughters in addition to his sons, would he have followed Valyrian tradition and wed them together? I am inclined to think yes. Obviously he wed Aenys to his cousin Alyssa, quite likely having the purity of the Dragon's blood in mind, but cousin marriage was such an accepted practice I doubt anyone so much as blinked. And Aenys later went on to wed his children together, likely having been taught by his father of the importance of keeping the blood of the dragon pure. However, he certainly tread carefully around the Faith and the High Septon, and so a bit of doubt does come to mind.
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    When Targaryens have children,

    Hard to say. It has been theorized that the Valyrian Dragonlords magically genetically modified themselves, taking in dragon's blood so they could better control them. Perhaps said lizard stillbirths are a genetic throwback to the dragons blood? Genetic throwback, as in has too much "dragons blood" to be viable as a human. However, therein lies a problem, of the instances where we hear of such stillbirths, only one, Visenya the daughter of Rhaenyra and Daemon... the Rogue Prince, was born from two Targaryens, with the others, Rhaego and Maegor's children, being born of a Targaryen and someone who was not a Targaryen, nor even a Valyrian for that matter. One would think it more likely that such a "throwback" would occur more often with the inbreeding of those who also carry the Blood of the Dragon, than with someone who does not. Another possibility is magic. Tyanna of the Tower was allegedly the cause of the stillbirth of Maegor's children, not to mention the theorized possibility of magic being involved in Maegor's conception and later revival from a coma. Mirri Maaz Duur's magic could have negatively harmed Rhaego. And as for Visenya... well we don't hear of any possible magic going on there, however Rhaenyra repeatedly called the unborn Visenya "monster" and told her to "get out" during her labor with Visenya, so perhaps some unintentional magic that cursed Visenya?
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    Did the Tyrells violate guest right?

    Jaime was a Kingsguard, he lived at the Red Keep, he was not a guest. So he was guilty of Kingslaying, breaking Kingsguard vows, and (not to start this argument) possibly patricide/kinslaying if Aerys was actually his father; but he was not guilty of breaking guest right. As for Tywin, arguably perhaps he did, but there was no eating of bread and salt, the recognized initiation of guest right, rather they just waltzed in and started sacking the place. Also, can an entire city fall under the purview of guest right? We know for sure that homes and castles count, but an entire city might be a bit of a stretch.
  11. This. The religion of the Old Gods, while only majorly prevalent in the North, has remained an ingrained part of Westeros culture. Swearing by the Old Gods and the New, Godswoods, etc. So while it may be frowned upon, so long as Jon doesn't try to "cast down" the Faith of the Seven, he would likely be accepted just fine.
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    Unpopular Opinions?

    I don't like Robb. He seems to be a well liked character, but I just don't like him.
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    Winterfell Dragon

    Most likely it was Summer/Bran-in-Summer interpreting some fire of Winterfell burning. Or he/they could be seeing something in the flames, in a manner akin to Red Priests. Or if Vermax did lay a clutch of egg in the crypts, I suppose its possible one hatched at some point, perhaps the same time as Daenerys' dragons, i.e. during the Red Comet, and its been living on rats and scraps all while hiding from men, like Grey Ghost. That would be very interesting and give Jon the possibility of a dragon he wouldn't have to get from Dany, but I would think there would at least be rumors or hints of a dragon in the North by this point in the story; at least something beyond this event alone so it wouldn't seem that this dragon just came from nowhere. As to the potential dragon hatching from the burning of Winterfell at the time, I don't think it likely that it would start flying off and breathing fire so soon after hatching if that was the case. So if it was an actual dragon, I think it would have needed to hatch earlier.
  14. A confederacy wouldn't work, for very long at least. Something would go wrong, a war between two kingdoms would start, and the others would take sides (remember there are two sides to every story, and different kings are going to sympathize to one over the other for what ever reason) or simply stay out of it. And then the whole thing would just fall apart. And then there would be constant wars between one and kingdom and another. Something to bear in mind I think is important to consider about the rule of the Iron Throne. Dorne held out against hostile conquest a few times, however when the prospect of them joining peaceably on terms they could agree to came up, they took it. This means that the Dornish saw enough advantage to being part of the Seven Kingdoms, an enemy multiple times in the past, that they actually came to the table and worked out a deal they could agree to, and then submitted to the Iron Throne, i.e. giving up their independence. And in regards to the North, because that's the Kingdom that desires independence that everybody sympathizes with, they basically just had two Overlords, with Ned at least being well respected, in a row killed by the King, so its really understandable that they might be a bit peeved. But I personally think a big part of that, for both the Riverlords and Northern-lords, is that they kind of got caught up in the moment both with their victories and with the thought of who they were fighting, i.e. the Lannisters.
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