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  1. Robert was bent on killing Targaryens, and Lyanna, when she approaching death, might as well very aware of this. When Bob becomes fat and alcoholic he still pursues Rhaegar children through the Free Cities. I don't think he would have spared Jon being the son of his most hated enemy, Rhaegar. Even though he was also the son of Lyanna, the woman he loved dearly. Ned was protecting Jon and keeping his sister's promise at the same time. It is one of the first things presented in the saga and I think the dilemma is well planted. Ned, a POV, has made a promise to protect (and also he took care of) Jon, a Targaryen bastard, a half-member of a former enemy family that bled the Kingdoms in war, all the while keeping this a secret to his best friend, Robert Baratheon. Could have he told Catelyn? Not really, he promised his oath earlier, when they were almost strangers to each others. He took this promise to his death. At worst, he's the honorable fool a lot of people in the book say he is.
  2. The text says Black Walder is feared by people around in his own family and that he has quite a reputation. I am inclined of using GRRM wording, since I find it important. Also, I haven't mentioned antagonists or protagonists in my post. Please don't come back to me with arguments you make up. For me, Walder and Tully mirror each other for some feats in each I already mentioned.
  3. I like the dynamics between Jonos Bracken and Tytos Blackwood. Jonos is an impulsive and headstrong man, while Tytos is rather subtle and reserved. On top of everything, both are ancient enemies. I liked the transition between them, when Jaime visits Raventree Hall. GRRM took care of the prose, in these chapters, so that the reader seems to be really moving from one side of the lane to the other in a conflict that, by then, was little more than a sidenote to the main story. In this light, the dialogues of both men are well measured to achieve the atmosphere.
  4. I think Joffrey would have grown to be, more or less, the same boy he was during the books. Whatever the color of his hair, and whoever his father is, he has two horrible parents, one mostly absent, the other over protective. I can't remember who told Ned to overthrow Joffrey and place Tommen in the throne, since he was more agreeable or, say, nice. I do believe this would have been the course of actions taken if Ned was out of the picture (even by leaving for Winterfell after Robert's death or just leaving elsewhere). As in, Tommen being king via Joff's death or exile. The only issue is Renly. He doesn't have any claim to the Throne before the War of the Five Kings, yet he claims it. Another scenario would be him rallying the Reach and the stormlands against the Throne for whatever reason he can make up. He's like them kids who join up in rock bands because they know they look good on tights. And people around them think that too.
  5. Black Walder and Brynden Tully. Both unwed, both apt soldiers, but whereas one is loyal to a monarch, the other isn't. Tully is well respected in his family by (Edmure and Catelyn that we know of); Walder is feared by most of his.
  6. They are not the only ones with crowns in their sigils. Also consider the late Hollards, the Dustins and the Manwoodys. Westeros lived more time with lots of kings about the lands instead of a single monarch. The Iron Throne is fairly recent, if you take the tellings of the worldbook.
  7. That battle is told from a very narrow perspective, for starters. Tyrion was fielding a side ("this is our river, protect the river and the such"). The northmen were to block Lannister movement in the region. And Roose Bolton, taking advantage of the situation, apparently bled his army to further his own agenda. I do find it a bit over the top seeing Tyrion slashing people around. He is a short man, he has short limbs, he presumably isn't strong on the arm. I guess GRRM got to exercize in fiction here. This scene could have played some other more realistic way, as in having some clansmen do the killing for him. But hey, I don't complain for one.
  8. King's Landing is protected by most other regions. The greek roman empire had the thematas (my memory is kinda hazy at the moment) which were lead by a strategos, who concentrated much of the military required to do whatever needs to be done. Constantinople itself had the varangian guard, and those were sworn to the emperor in office. In simple terms, I believe Constantinople and its thematas worked as King's Landing and its Wardens. The current form of the Iron Throne (Baratheon Lannister) was initially supported chiefly by the westerlands and by the stormlands. Later on, with Margaery Tyrell in the equation, by the Reach. In the end, King's Landing doesn't really need a standing army to maintain and feed when other regions can raise armies and mobilize if there was any need. When Stannis besieged KL, there was literally an immense host of Lannisters and Tyrells that crushed Stannis' host.
  9. First time I read this, I thought that this means that everything will come against or for Dany in groups of threes, which is a fairly nice manner of arranging the plot, for the author I mean. Anyhoo, been years since I read the saga last time, and I'm currently doing my last read. So me bails out.
  10. - The Kings of Winter were extremely cruel and war mongering brutes.
  11. Besides, is the current known Kingsguards really THAT bad? In so far, there's two mediocre knights (Boros Blount and Meryn Trant), one we don't really know much about (Preston Greenfield), another that was considered dangerous by the very Jaime fo'''kin' Lannister, former still very strong Barry Selmy, the florid but still competent Loras Tyrell, the dubious Kettleblack dude, who seems a phony, and the soon-to-be true knight Balon Swann. And Gregorstein, who since is not longer human doesn't count. So (-): Blount, Trant, Kettleblack. Kinda (+): Greenfield, Moore Decisively (+): Lannister, Selmy, Swann, Tyrell Alien: Strong
  12. It is a brotherhood sworn to the Iron Throne & who sits on it. To me, the fact that *most* of them stood by a corrupt king until the end actually speaks better for the lot. They are not partisans, nor lords, nor counselors. They are sworn to protect the monarch.
  13. The OP's text implies Jaime was persistant. It's not the same as molesting.
  14. I was listening to a POV in audiobook format and I noticed a name I had hard time relating to my previous reads. Sarella. Sarella's is pronounced almost the same as 'ciruela', a spanish word for a plum, which obviously led me to the Plumms which are fond of characters playing double agents. Also, Sarella's mother worked or was a captain of a ship called 'Feathered Kiss'. Feathered, again, in spanish is 'Beso Emplumado'. Now again, Ben Plumm ancestry feels like a chimera. Or even a sphinx. A little of these, a little of that. Probably just wild coincidence. But the wordplay, if it was intentional, is actually awesome.
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