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7 hours ago, Ran said:

Why? It's clearly using the design for the Mûmakil from the films, and Rohan was in fact invaded by a coalition that included the Corsairs of Umbar, who could presumably have brought some mûmakil with them. Tolkien didn't go into detail.

Rohan (being completely landlocked) was never attacked by the Corsairs. Even if it were, transporting the gigantic Mumakil all the way to Rohan would have been nigh impossible.

That picture does not inspire confidence.

Considering that Boyens is involved in this, who if I remember correctly was the creative force behind a lot of the changes for the Hobbit movies, I doubt that we have a Cyberpunk Edgerunners situation on our hands.

It's almost certainly a mistake and they meant to write Sauron. Not that the show becomes any less stupid through Saruman's absence.

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Nomvete also spoke about playing the first female dwarf and the first dwarf of color on screen in the Tolkien universe, explaining that she “didn’t feel too much pressure” from audiences or the creative team. [...]

Lotro already did that.

1 hour ago, Spockydog said:

Hands up everyone who absolutely fucking hates this show, yet, despite this, will watch every minute of Season 2 only so they can come here to bitch and whine about how terrible it all is and how miserable the sacrilege that is This Fucking Show is making their day-to-day lives

This should not be unexpected for a forum that had dozens of "Rant and Rave" threads dedicated to a tv show adaptation already.

8 hours ago, Farerb said:

Does the new cast make you hopeful for next season?

No. Apart from a complete reboot, I can see no way to salvage the show. The Sauron in Eregion storyline has been concluded in 30 minutes and Numenor's religious crisis has been boiled down to "Dey took 'er jerbs!". There is no coming back from this. The best the show could offer now is mindless spectacle.

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I'm referring to  The Lord of the Rings Online, which has been running for over a decade. Their license is via Middle-earth Enterprises, i.e. the Sault Zaentz Company, but with those rights now being sold off it may be that they'll end up having to close if the license is revocable.

´Still until you have a replacement lined up, there should not be much reason to starwarsgalaxies Loto (though that may just be the sunk cost fallacy speaking)

Welp this is happening

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/lord-of-the-rings-hobbit-tolkien-zaentz-rights-sale-1235176036/

I am not sure what to think about that.

16 hours ago, fionwe1987 said:

I wouldn't say LoK conclusively demonstrates anything though. Part of the issues with it, at least, were with not being given a full series order at first. And them being unable to explore a Korra-Asami romance early on.

Take those away, and I think Korra would be a much more cohesive show. Even with those constraints, it's managed to be a damn good show. Hopefully, given that they were lured back to Nick, they have those kinds of issues sorted, and will have the money and the creative freedom to do more original storytelling in the Avatar world. 

I quite liked how they blended technology and bending, and I wouldn't mind more of that in future seasons. 

They were fine with having self-contained seasons and every book was greenlit before the first episode of Book 1 aired.

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From discussions around the first season, it sounded like Korra grew from a miniseries into a regular series. Could you take advantage of that in Book Two? Knowing there would be more, are you aiming to craft a giant arc similar to The Last Airbender?Konietzko: It is a similar format to other TV shows, like 24: new season, new challenge, and new bad guy. Nickelodeon came to us at the end of 2009 with a twelve episode “mini-season” already green-lit for a new series. They let us do pretty much whatever we wanted with it, as long as it was in the Avatar universe and featured bending. Their one request was that each of the Books have its own contained arc, which was fine with Mike and me. I think it was important to the network because initially they didn’t know how many of these mini-seasons they would want to pick up! They wanted to test the waters. But they grew confident as we progressed and we were eventually lucky enough to get them to pick it up through Book Four before we even premiered Book One.

https://www.vulture.com/2013/09/legend-of-korra-creators-on-the-series-plans.html

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Book Four: Balance, the final season, was produced in parallel to the previous two seasons. The crew, at one point, worked on approximately 30 episodes at the same time: post-production for season 2, production for season 3 and pre-production for season 4.^[47]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Korra#Development

3 hours ago, Ran said:

Right. Though worth noting that the claim was rejected under a false premise, namely that Isildur was not High King after his father’s death. As Tolkien wrote, the Steward and Council of Gondor refused to respond when Arvedui pointed out that fact.

Neither Isildur (after leaving Gondor) nor his descendants exercised the office of High King though if I recall correctly. The premise is not really false.

22 minutes ago, Ran said:

Except the President of France doesn’t have it as part of their official role to await the return of an heir of Charlemagne to be a true king. It’s explicit that the Stewards in general, and Denethor in particular up until his despair (as recounted by Faramir’s recollection of Boromir questioning his father) saw their awaiting the return of the rightful king to be a foundational aspect of their role.

That king being Earnur. The claim of Aragorn's line was rejected a thousands years prior to the events

On 8/17/2021 at 4:41 PM, fionwe1987 said:

Interesting. I've heard the opposite, before. Where were they on storyboarding season 2 when they learned season 3 and 4 were green lit? That would be an interesting question for someone to ask.

Considering that Books 3&4 were already greenlit by the time book 1 aired, that book 2 released roughly a year after book 1 and that an episode (if I recall correctly) of this kind of animation takes roughly 1 year to produce, I would say that this is likely the case.

Overall I very much prefer The Last Airbender over Korra and I would go as far as to say that the only things Korra does better are technical animation quality (excluding the first half of season 2) and maybe music. The only good season is in my opinion season 3 and even it is not as good as standart ATLA. Add to that that dumb and fanficcy stuff like the "Dark Avatar", sudden Airbenders and first Avatars, and I really find myself wishing that they had not made Korra at all.

2 hours ago, fionwe1987 said:

Not quite what I meant. I think Korra's patchiness is way more related to Nick just never being sure it would be a hit, and giving it incremental one season orders.

 

I don't think the issue is with writing, especially when it's a rewrite of an existing show anyway. I'm thinking more that there are live series related things that Bryke wouldn't have been familiar with, and I'm wondering if that caused Netflix to interfere.

The whole of Korra's two seasons (each containing two books) were already greenlit before the first episode even aired.

https://www.vulture.com/2013/09/legend-of-korra-creators-on-the-series-plans.html

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[...]Nickelodeon came to us at the end of 2009 with a twelve episode “mini-season” already green-lit for a new series. They let us do pretty much whatever we wanted with it, as long as it was in the Avatar universe and featured bending. Their one request was that each of the Books have its own contained arc, which was fine with Mike and me. I think it was important to the network because initially they didn’t know how many of these mini-seasons they would want to pick up! They wanted to test the waters. But they grew confident as we progressed and we were eventually lucky enough to get them to pick it up through Book Four before we even premiered Book One.

s for Mike and me, after spending six years telling one long story for Aang, we welcomed the new format. [...]