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    Rant and Rave Without Repercussion End of The World Edition [Spoilers]

    Dany sure looks and sounds smug in the preview for next week. The Dothraki and Unsullied have to be just about obliterated now, yes? On the other hand, all she really has to do is send Arya to infiltrate Kings Landing and take out Cersei, which would probably end the series in five minutes...
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    Rant and Rave Without Repercussion End of The World Edition [Spoilers]

    I will say that, for the most part, I've enjoyed this season and the previous one...maybe it's because the two before that were such steaming piles, maybe it's because there are no books anymore to directly compare it to, and maybe it's because I'm despairing of ever getting a proper conclusion to the saga from GRRM and am happy to take what I can get at this point. It will always be a sad case of "what might have been" to me, but my expectations have been vastly lowered over the seasons...this show can be expected to deliver plenty of spectacle and fanfiction/fanservice, and on that level I guess it generally succeeds, despite numerous moments of WTF and plot/logic holes you could drive a truck through. (I've not read the thread yet, so I'm sure most of those are already being covered... but I did laugh at Mel walking out of the night alone in the middle of the North in winter, 2 minutes before the start of battle, then doing nothing of great significance before letting herself die. No one seemed to question this much, and I doubt we'll get an explanation.) Most importantly, spending the final three episodes overcoming Cersei/Euron (does his lame show version have a nickname? Urine?) and determining who sits on the throne will feel hella anticlimactic now. The true threat and the true enemy has always been beyond the Wall and has been looming since S1E1 - only to be dispatched in one episode? If that's all there is to "the Others" in the books, it will be a great disappointment, I think. No backstory, no greater motivation for the NK - he just wanted to destroy humanity for the sake of doing it? For all the spectacle, this could have been a supersized Walking Dead episode for all the complexity and nuance behind it.
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    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    Many problems could have been solved if they'd told George at the outset "Sure, we'd love to adapt your work -- once the book series is completed. No rush. We'll wait." That's what would have happened if they really respected and appreciated the source material and realized what a potential masterpiece they were sitting on...it might have meant waiting another decade, but no one can look at the difference in quality between the early seasons vs. S5 onward and tell me it wouldn't have been worth it...
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    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    At this point, I'm pretty sure that anyone who isn't at either Winterfell or Kings Landing is forgotten and unlikely to be shown/mentioned again.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP510 Discussion

    If anything I have a whole new appreciation for Feast and Dance after watching what Season 5 of GOT did with their material. I wonder if Grrm would ever consider releasing "remastered" versions of AFFC/ADWD, splicing the stories back together chronologically and adding in the chapters that were moved to TWOW (Battle of Ice, Battle of Fire, Cersei's trial, etc.) to bring each story to a more natural climax at the end of Dance. Almost certainly not, but I think that would be an amazing read and would buy him some time with fans to complete the rest of Winds.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP510 Discussion

    There's no doubt the show is still entertaining in its own right - as goofy, wild escapism that you don't have to think too hard about. A lot of people are fine with that, and will continue to ooh and ahh at the shocking deaths and the dragons and "White Walkers" and Tyrion's wisecracks. Good for them, I suppose. But an adaptation of ASOIAF this is not - not any more. I'm not upset because the show is different from the books - I'm upset because it's so vastly inferior to the books. With the incredibly deep and rich source material they were handed, and with their production values and the talented actors that were cast, HBO had all the materials to create a masterpiece of television; I know they have limitations in time and budget, and that not every minor character is going to be represented or every minor event depicted (so don't give me the "books and TV are different, durr" stuff), but that hardly explains crap like the abomination that was Dorne this season, or the incredible dumbing-down of the entire Northern subplot. The amazing book dialogue is discarded more often than not, replaced with the show writers' own dialogue (spoiler alert: it's not as good). They cut the likes of Wyman Manderly and so many others but spend a bunch of screen time on unnecessary and uninteresting show inventions like Ollie, Myranda, whoever the guy is that Loras was sleeping with, etc. The characters are so one-dimensional and dull, nearly every plot line robbed of its excitement and intrigue. Just...such a waste of so much potential. I agree that TWOW not being out yet is on Martin, and the show shouldn't be expected to wait for him. I don't think anyone expects that. But watching how D&D handled the material that was already published doesn't give me any hope for how they will manage the story once they're completely off on their own. I think I'm done with anything ASOIAF-related until we at least have a release date for TWOW. Then I'll start a reread of books 1-5. Hopefully TWOW is out before Season 6 is all I can say.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP509 Discussion

    If Stannis does end up burning Shireen at some point (which very well may happen), it will be under very different circumstances and I doubt it will feel as wasted and needless as last week's scene did -- because D&D can't hold a candle to GRRM as storytellers. They went out of their way to shoehorn that event into a situation where it wasn't needed and made no sense, and they do deserve criticism for that whether or not something kinda similar ish eventually happens in the books. :lmao:
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    [Book Spoilers] EP509 Discussion

    This would normally go in the now-locked (for some reason) Rant thread, but I read a review where the author derisively referred to Stannis as "a commander who relies on sorcery to win battles." That's right: "I defeated your uncle Victarion and his Iron Fleet off Fair Isle, the first time your father crowned himself. I held Storm's End against the power of the Reach for a year, and took Dragonstone from the Targaryens. I smashed Mance Rayder at the Wall, though he had twenty times my numbers. Tell me, turncloak, what battles has the Bastard of Bolton ever won that I should fear him?" Now we know that if Stannis wins the Battle of Ice it will be due to blood magic -- he could never be a match for Ram(bo)sey otherwise.
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    [Poll] How would you rate episode 508?

    9/10...best this season, and it's not close.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP508 Discussion

    Really good episode - and it's been a while since I've been able to say that.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP507 Discussion

    LOL, I live for these posts after each episode. Thanks, dude.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP504 Discussion

    Yeah, I'm not saying the two things are equal in importance to the plot (though I think removing Tysha robbed the Tyrion scenes in "The Children" of a lot of the punch they should have had... Would have loved to have seen his parting scene with Jaime as it was in the book, with him losing his shit and vowing revenge on his family) ...just that a lot of people were arguing that Tysha was left out because no one would remember who she was after so long, which is clearly untrue. If the showrunners felt it was important enough to bring back into the story, it would have been easy enough to jog people's memories.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP504 Discussion

    Doesn't the sudden bombardment with R+L=J foreshadowing really disprove the "No one would have known who Tysha was because she hadn't been mentioned in 3 seasons, durr" excuse? I'm pretty sure just about all non-book-readers had no idea who Rhaegar and Lyanna were, but a couple of 30-second reminder scenes took care of that.
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