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  1. Kal-L

    R+L=J v.165

    And I think you're overrating the consequences of this act. Whether the Tully would approved it or not is a thing, whether Brandon's act would be enough to irrevocably broke ties is another thing and I disagree with that notion. As I already mentioned in my previous post Lord Rickard would have to deal with Hoster if the man was so "offended" and could convince him that Brandon's act was to be put on the account of youth. After all would it be so surprising that a young "knight" such as Brandon got briefly smitten by a beautiful maiden at a Tourney and decided during the euphory of his victor to crown her ? Especially a northern who isn't used to that kind of events (full of beautiful young maiden) and so could easily be charmed (or rather influenced) by the romantic mood ? By the way how many times did Brandon and Cat see each others throughout the years they were betrothed ? They barely know each other at that point (year 281), and on top of that she isn't even present at the Great Tourney organized by her vassal and mother's House (as many pointed out) who happened to gathers the most important figures of the realm. Which led to the question all must have wondered, why ? How is that even possible when even her northern betrothed is there ?
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    R+L=J v.165

    No I don't think so, I do think that Lord Rickard might have to insist with him on putting Brandon's act on the account of the youth, a young gallant fool who's just won the first -southern- tourney he's taken part in (something that is important) who also happened to be the biggest one the 7 kingdoms have seen for decades. On his side Brandon could give Cat some sweet talk if needed, otherwise I can't see it turning into something that can't be dealt between the two families. That's an interesting theory that definitely deserved some thoughts. Personally I don't approve it, I mean from what we heard from Barbrey, Brandon was never shy in taking what he wanted meaning had he been attracted by Ashara Dayne he would surely have make a move. That's why I feel him going at Ashara after his loss to get back at Rhaegar would be a bit out of character. Also Ashara was Ashara was a lady-in-waiting to Princess Elia was had been the one shamed by Rhaegar's move the most. It wouldn't be Rhaegar but Elia he attacked even though Arthur was closed to Rhaegar, unless he had something against Arthur Dayne it would be rather stupid. I think Brandon and Ashara had an affair at some point at Harrenhall which turned bad when it was revealed she was pregnant. Now I wonder if she was mourning him at his death and if she killed herserf because of that and all the death she suffered (Arthur, Elia...).
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    R+L=J v.165

    But whether it's better to crown his sister rather than Ashara is not the point, I don't even think he would have crowned Arthur's sister as I don't think he was particularly attached to her (anymore than Barbrey for example). However if he did, people would speak of it as the Stark heir getting momentarily smitten by some beautiful maiden, nothing else since there would offically be nothing else to say. Now after her pregnant state would be revealed, yeah there would obviously be a scandal but that's another story. I admit I laughed at the bolded, what else ? Should Brandon "the Gallant fool" be burned alive in front of Cat so the Tully who weren't even present could be satisfied ? Don't know what kind of scenario you pulled but if Brandon had crowned Ashara it would mean that he won the tourney and then there would be no reason to assume Rhaegar was the one "kidnapping" Lyanna if it still happens by the way...
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    R+L=J v.165

    Who said so ? Still doesn't see your scandal. Brandon crowning Ashara wouldn't be taken at offense by anyone, just a young man (not even married) rewarding a young maiden for her "oustanding" beauty, nothing unusual, especially at a tourney.
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    R+L=J v.165

    I disagree with your wording here, you seem to imply that Brandon crowning Ashara would be as much a scandal as Rhaegar crowning Lyanna was. How would it be ? Brandon wouldn't offend anyone since his betrothed wasn't even present and as far as we know Ashara wasn't promised to anyone. In brief the situation had absolutely nothing to do with what happened between Rhaegar and Lyanna. I think I don't have to remind you the event but actually the fool managed to slight three party at once that day. No wonder the scandal it stirred and then how he got smashed by his own cousin.
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    R+L=J v.165

    What is your opinion on the relationship between Brandon and Robert, another potential "rival" (handsome, great warrior, alpha persona...) ?
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    R+L=J v.165

    I read your theory and there are some things I need to clear out, what is Ashara's role in it ? I mean what was she supposed to accomplished in the first place ? Also I don't get your wording. Was she dishonored when she willingly slept with an widely known betrothed man ? If that's so I have to disagree, the dishonor occured (yeah that's kind of hypocritical) when it was known that she was a unmarried pregnant lady, before that I'm not even sure it was known she had had sexual intercourses at Harrenhal. At any rate very few were aware of her affair (that's how I view it) with elder Stark even years later.
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    Characters you dislike or hate

    Ned wasn't raised in the North and the education he gave to his sons isn't the one Brandon, Lyanna and Benjen received, by the way you know nothing about Benjen. Robb was an idiot who was raised in an idiotic way that caused his fall, he shouldn't have married Jeyne. Concerning Brandon and Ashara, she was willing and he wasn't married so everything that happened between them was their own concern until the pregnancy which brought up dishonor upon her and her house. Otherwise there were none, you can't even affirm she was a virgin before that and even though she had been, without the pregnancy it would still have been their secrets. I find it a rather naive conception considering the universe in which they are living and their wedding condition. Rickard died because Aerys decided to have him executed. Once he learned the truth about the royal kids, Ned was willing to go war with the Lannisters no matter the dreadful consequences for the smallfolk because his "honor" dictated him to do so, however once it was the safety of his daughter that was put into the matter, he easily screwed that "honor".
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    Best Fighters/Swordsmen?

    Well I'll just make a top 5 from Aerys II reign to the current timeline. Arthur Dayne Barristan Selmy Jaime Lannister Robert Baratheon Sandor Clegane
  10. Robb - Alys Karstark or Ysilla Royce Sansa - Andar Royce Arya - Edric Dayne Bran - Wylla Manderly Rickon - to the Night's Watch or Erena Glover would be fine.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    Little question about House Arryn, do we have any clue about the year of Ronnel Arryn death (Jon's brother) ?
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    Thanks mate ! But in that case we don't know of what steel the sword was made of, I mean it could very well be regular steel or the same metal as Dawn. I'm saying this because a lot of people were hoping the Starks would regain their original sword.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    I've read several times that the Starks had an original ancestral sword named "Ice" before they got their Valyrian sword 400 years ago. I wondered where it was mentioned ?
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    Most Terrible Act Since the Conquest?

    Robert thought about himself and Lord Rickard wanted the end of the North's isolation and achieved it by marrying his heir to the eldest daughter of his neighbour LP. Not everyone is Tywin Lannister and all of your claim are assumption until stated otherwise. Don't make it fact.
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    Most Terrible Act Since the Conquest?

    Where did you get that from ? The only betrothal organized by Lord Rickard was the one between Brandon and Catelyn Tully. Robert only asked Lyanna's hand to her father through Ned, meaning that IF conspiracy there was ever a conspiracy (which I don't believe) House Baratheon was not part of it.
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