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  1. I think that is the big question. Did they cut all the important scenes with actual dialogue to help explain/expand the story and ending? Or are the scenes that were cut just more slow walking, staring, chair moving filler? Not having enough time was part of the issue, the other part was they didn't do enough with the time they had and left the actual meat of the story for the viewer to make up on their own.
  2. “The three coming out of the tunnel would be Jon and Jorah and Tormund. But the amount of logic we’d have to bend to get Jorah up to the Wall and get him to leave Dany’s side right before [the events of the finale]…there’s no way to do that blithely. And Jorah should have the noble death he craves defending the woman he loves.” Ha, so they ARE concerned about logic in the show. They could have fooled me with what they did the last few seasons.
  3. I've seen this a lot and I have have one issue with it. Would more time and episodes have helped? Yes, yes it would. Would more time and episodes helped with D&D at the helm? Nope, nope it wouldn't. How much time has been wasted the last several seasons with pointless filler? How many times did we watch Arya get beat up with a stick and not progress? How much of the last episode was slow walking with solemn characters? How many wasteful added storylines like Greyworm and Missendre's love affair were added while important plot lines were cut? How many important scenes in general happened off screen because they can't write a compelling story? The biggest offense to this in my opinion was a couple seasons ago they had a few scenes with Tyrion, Missendre and Greyworm in Meereen where they actually talk about how they have nothing to talk about . The issue was that D&D are not good at writing stories and did not have a clue what to do with the characters, and more time and episodes wouldn't have turned them into competent writers.
  4. So much this, how many times did you hear excuses to the writing that are summed up to "it'll get better/it'll be a bigger twist" The two that come to mind that I heard plenty of are Arya did actually die/is till in Bravos and that's Jaqen H'ghar or the waif impersonating her in Westeros. Or my personal favorite Baelish didn't really die like a bitch he is really an agent of the faceless men and that is a different one pretending to be him so he can still be an agent of chaos. I would always reply to these that if you needed to make up a worse story that makes even less sense to justify the bad writing, chances are it's just bad writing and you need to admit it. Season 8 was the avalanche end of the snowball effect that had been growing for several seasons.
  5. I think the prequel will be well received by the people still saying GoT has amazing writing. The prequel will not have to worry about having any of the stuff that separated GoT originally from what you normally see on TV. You know a deep story with layers and interesting characters. It will be all spectacle with a basic story. They won't have to worry about being compared to a more intriguing story like GoT did so they already know they don't have to put much effort into it. We know that they will make sure their is an abundance of nudity and sex scenes, that every character needs to make a funny quip, there will be plenty of dick jokes, and the dialogue will equal to a kid that just learned what swear words are as the writer. Plenty of cock and cunts thrown in. As long as they can dazzle the people that still defend the poor writing they are going to make money off it. Personally I have no interest in any spin off series seeing what HBO put out when they had no source material to work with. Why would I want to watch a whole series that they are making up on the fly? And I am in the boat that is especially confused why they would even focus on the Long Night when the Night King is apparently a bitch.
  6. So one of Sansa's main reasons to get the Norths independence (by the way I don't dislike this happening, just the how it happened) was because they sacrificed tens of thousands in the shortest night battle. - Sansa who kept an army of the Vale secret and let thousands of Northmen get slaughtered because she is "super smart" and wanted to surprise everyone with the fresh army. - The Vale army who also fought during the battle of the short night and lost tens of thousands (who knows how many troops were lost in any army with what the show does, but if Sansa can make up numbers so can I) of troops during the battle defending Winterfell, the North and Westeros. - So shouldn't the Vale be worthy of their own independence for sacrificing their men to not only liberate the North from Ramsay but help in the battle against the undead?
  7. To add to that it was offered, because all the people are gone and the lands are open for the taking. Then a couple scenes later, Bronn is Lord of Highgarden the most profitable land left in the seven kingdoms and is in good shape to provide food and money to the capital... Highgarden is in control of the Reach. So which is it, broken and empty or populated and prosperous? Not keeping the story consistent from episode to episode or even scene to scene has been what D&D do best.
  8. The enemy fleet that not only has ambushed them multiple times doing more destruction to her forces then the Night King apparently, but the enemy fleet that was actually part of the discussion during their "strategy" meeting.
  9. This whole plot has been forced so hard onto the viewer and it is unbearable to watch. She just started hating her and not trusting her because she's super smart or something. Even last episode when Dany was fighting against the undead and her army was getting annihilated (until we found out this episode 50% of all forces survived because they didn't even watch the episode they filmed where everyone died) Sansa was bitching about her. And then after the battle that Dany sacrificed her whole army (minus the 50% reducing the actual impact of last weeks episode) Sansa is still treating her like she is some untrustworthy adversary. Sansa alienating someone who has just proven what a valuable ally she is is one of the reason Dany is cracking. Because of Sansa and the terrible storytelling I find myself finally rooting for Dany for the first time. I know the show is doing their best to force us into thinking the mad queen is coming, and that she is evil. I hope it does happen at this point. Sansa is an insufferable bitch with no redeeming qualities and ads nothing but high school level drama to the show. I hope Dany fly's Drogon right up to Winterfell and gives Sansa some Fire and Blood treatment.
  10. So Arya is a giant plot problem right? -They give her the Frey pie thing so we know she is capable of face changing and impersonating a liege lord for awhile and then proceeds to kill off the entire family. -She is apparently so silent and stealthy she can run through Winterfell without anything noticing her. A castle that is overrun with an army of undead who's only purpose is kill anything living. She then kills a magical unstoppable being in the Night King with no problems what so ever. -She is literally on her way to Kings Landing to kill Cersei. And not a single person in the strategic planning session thinks "Let's send Arya to do what she is planning on doing? Hey Varys you still know all those secret passages into the red keep? Great, this should be wrapped up in less than a fortnight. No that makes no sense, how about this, let's just come up with the dumbest plan possible then forget about minor details like Eurons armada and just wing it. Sound good with everybody? Oh and make sure you all act like catty bitches just because." They turned her into an unstoppable force that everyone forgot about this episode. After last week everyone was saying how pointless a war with Cersei is because of Arya, and they all were proven right. But we know she will now not be as unstoppable as she has been shown to be because... they need her not to be for the plot.
  11. So I don't want to watch the after the episode, because they continually show they have no idea what they are doing or talking about, but don't they literally mention the Iron fleet in the strategic planning (if you can even call it that) meeting?
  12. So when the most badass of all characters Euron () was destroying Dany's fleet and Missandre fled, she was the only one who decided to swim right for Euron instead of to shore with everyone else? Oh wait the capture happened off screen too, because it makes such little sense even they knew they couldn't make it happen on screen.
  13. Another sneak attack really? Another Euron knows where everyone is and no one notices his giant armada sneak attack? Just like the season before? Two weeks in a row I have got to watch two of the most powerful magical beings in the show be killed off with sneak attacks. Two indivisible wildly impossible sneak attacks. But hey? They were a "surprise" and that's what good storytelling is right?
  14. Watch the after the episode, I think D&D do a great job of showing how bad they are when it comes to writing the story. And because of this they have to rely on explaining why things happen in interviews instead of letting the story work itself out on screen. Benioff - "We knew it had to be Valyrian steel to the exact spot where the child of the forest put the dragonglass blade to create the Night King and he is uncreated by the Valyrian steel" Good thing they were able to show the viewer this is what needed to be done. Good thing Arya knew that there was only one place to stab the Night King to win. Good thing she knew he would defend against her first attack that would have done nothing by stabbing him in the shoulder for her to do her cool knife trick and stab him in the one spot that would kill him. Oh wait, no one was informed about any of that in this show. Arya got lucky. She was lucky she was able to run through a castle swarming with the undead (again happening off screen so we get a surprise attack out of thin air) that prevented every other character from moving from the spots they were in. She was lucky to run at break neck speeds through a crowded Godswood and not have a single WhiteWalker or wight notice her (oh wait we had that one scene where she was in a giant room with tons of cover and 6 wights and she wasn't noticed so same thing as a heavily crowded open area with rows of undead 5-8 deep shoulder to shoulder with no room to maneuver past with out bumping into them right?). And she was lucky to stab the Night King in the one spot that would kill him with no knowledge this would work. I honestly don't care that Arya got the final blow, I care that there was nothing to back up how she did it except "wouldn't this be cool if Arya did it?"
  15. There are no Seven Kingdoms anymore. The Seven Kingdoms follow the same rules as the Night King. You haven't heard from any region since their leaders died. Stormlands died when Stannis was killed. Riverlands died when the Blackfish died and Edmure yielded. Reach died when Olenna died Dorne died when the Sand snakes were killed. I just assume they work under the same magic as the Night King and everybody dropped dead when their leader died
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