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  1. LokisRaider

    Extended Edition

    I think that is the big question. Did they cut all the important scenes with actual dialogue to help explain/expand the story and ending? Or are the scenes that were cut just more slow walking, staring, chair moving filler? Not having enough time was part of the issue, the other part was they didn't do enough with the time they had and left the actual meat of the story for the viewer to make up on their own.
  2. “The three coming out of the tunnel would be Jon and Jorah and Tormund. But the amount of logic we’d have to bend to get Jorah up to the Wall and get him to leave Dany’s side right before [the events of the finale]…there’s no way to do that blithely. And Jorah should have the noble death he craves defending the woman he loves.” Ha, so they ARE concerned about logic in the show. They could have fooled me with what they did the last few seasons.
  3. I've seen this a lot and I have have one issue with it. Would more time and episodes have helped? Yes, yes it would. Would more time and episodes helped with D&D at the helm? Nope, nope it wouldn't. How much time has been wasted the last several seasons with pointless filler? How many times did we watch Arya get beat up with a stick and not progress? How much of the last episode was slow walking with solemn characters? How many wasteful added storylines like Greyworm and Missendre's love affair were added while important plot lines were cut? How many important scenes in general happened off screen because they can't write a compelling story? The biggest offense to this in my opinion was a couple seasons ago they had a few scenes with Tyrion, Missendre and Greyworm in Meereen where they actually talk about how they have nothing to talk about . The issue was that D&D are not good at writing stories and did not have a clue what to do with the characters, and more time and episodes wouldn't have turned them into competent writers.
  4. So much this, how many times did you hear excuses to the writing that are summed up to "it'll get better/it'll be a bigger twist" The two that come to mind that I heard plenty of are Arya did actually die/is till in Bravos and that's Jaqen H'ghar or the waif impersonating her in Westeros. Or my personal favorite Baelish didn't really die like a bitch he is really an agent of the faceless men and that is a different one pretending to be him so he can still be an agent of chaos. I would always reply to these that if you needed to make up a worse story that makes even less sense to justify the bad writing, chances are it's just bad writing and you need to admit it. Season 8 was the avalanche end of the snowball effect that had been growing for several seasons.
  5. I think the prequel will be well received by the people still saying GoT has amazing writing. The prequel will not have to worry about having any of the stuff that separated GoT originally from what you normally see on TV. You know a deep story with layers and interesting characters. It will be all spectacle with a basic story. They won't have to worry about being compared to a more intriguing story like GoT did so they already know they don't have to put much effort into it. We know that they will make sure their is an abundance of nudity and sex scenes, that every character needs to make a funny quip, there will be plenty of dick jokes, and the dialogue will equal to a kid that just learned what swear words are as the writer. Plenty of cock and cunts thrown in. As long as they can dazzle the people that still defend the poor writing they are going to make money off it. Personally I have no interest in any spin off series seeing what HBO put out when they had no source material to work with. Why would I want to watch a whole series that they are making up on the fly? And I am in the boat that is especially confused why they would even focus on the Long Night when the Night King is apparently a bitch.
  6. So one of Sansa's main reasons to get the Norths independence (by the way I don't dislike this happening, just the how it happened) was because they sacrificed tens of thousands in the shortest night battle. - Sansa who kept an army of the Vale secret and let thousands of Northmen get slaughtered because she is "super smart" and wanted to surprise everyone with the fresh army. - The Vale army who also fought during the battle of the short night and lost tens of thousands (who knows how many troops were lost in any army with what the show does, but if Sansa can make up numbers so can I) of troops during the battle defending Winterfell, the North and Westeros. - So shouldn't the Vale be worthy of their own independence for sacrificing their men to not only liberate the North from Ramsay but help in the battle against the undead?
  7. To add to that it was offered, because all the people are gone and the lands are open for the taking. Then a couple scenes later, Bronn is Lord of Highgarden the most profitable land left in the seven kingdoms and is in good shape to provide food and money to the capital... Highgarden is in control of the Reach. So which is it, broken and empty or populated and prosperous? Not keeping the story consistent from episode to episode or even scene to scene has been what D&D do best.
  8. That's just their code for "we have no idea how to actually write compelling dialogue that shows any type of emotion or depth so we just make it happen off screen because we are gigantic hacks, here's a CGI battle to distract you"
  9. You forgot the smartest person in Westeros's plot: - Sansa is immediately ungrateful and bitchy towards Dany when she arrives to Winterfell with 2 dragons and quadruple (hard to tell with so many re-spawns and fake tension deaths) the Norths forces to help fight against the undead. - Sansa pushes a you can't trust Dany narrative with nothing other than a gut feeling which makes Dany feel alienated and not welcomed in Westeros when all she is trying to do is help save it, and if anything Sansa should be praising her arrival as they will be dead/undead without her. - While Dany is sacrificing her entire army (except the magically re-spawned 50% next episode) to save the North, Sansa, Winterfell and all of Westeros, Sansa is in the crypts still being catty in regards to Dany, because that is some quality forced teen drama level writing right there which we all love . - After the battle Sansa continues to be unreasonable cold towards Dany and distrust and alienate her more making her feel not welcomed in Westeros. And Sansa barely gives recognition to Dany for sacrificed everything to help save the realm? Real quality stuff. - Sansa jumps at the first opportunity to undermine Dany's authority when her dumb brother/cousin tells her his true parentage, giving Dany more reason to feel isolated in this world. - Dany goes crazy after being alienated and pushed away by (mostly Sansa) and the ungrateful people in Westeros who she has saved now from an army of the undead and a tyrant Queen, so she says "screw it I'm burning this place to the ground" - And now in episode 6 we will get to hear Sansa say I told you so about how super smart she is for knowing not to trust Dany even though her only reasons were "because I am so smart" even though she was one of the biggest factors in Dany being pushed to her isolation and eventual rule with fear attitude. - If you haven't figured it out I can't stand the Sansa character in the show and how she does nothing useful and offers no real insight except "listen to me, oh you're letting me offer my opinion? I don't really have anything to add except listen to me because I'm like the smartest person in Westeros. Other characters even say this,so it must be true!" - The only thing this show has successfully done is make me rout for mass murdering Dany and hope she flies Drogon right up to Winterfell and rids us of Sansa.
  10. LokisRaider

    What will Jon do?

    Got to agree with you there. I personally hate how there are people that love that she killed the Freys, Littlefinger and the Night King, and are also now disappointed she didn't get to kill one of if not all of Euron, the Mountain and Cersei. And people now want her to kill Dany (even though this would go against her character from just this weeks episode and how the Hound got her to leave by saying revenge doesn't get you anything in life). I'm sick to death of the "Arya killing everyone is a great story" theorists out there. As to the topic, Dany either kills Jon (the absolute longshot outcome) or Jon kills Dany. His look at Davos towards the end of the episode was telling. He was thinking what has she done, she must be stopped, Varys was right, I know what I have to do now kind of thoughts going on behind the stare. One thing is for sure there will be a reckoning, I hope Arya has nothing to do with it, she has had plenty of story all ready, and if she goes to kill Dany for revenge on what she did to King's Landing what was the point of her and the Hounds conversation and her character change?
  11. I honestly thought it was the better episode of the season, a low bar I know, mostly because some rational sense was applied to it. For example the Dragon actually being effective in any way shape or form. I think I mostly have nitpicks with a couple of blatantly egregious issues. - Varys master of whisperers and smartest player of the game this show has ever seen. In the matter of two scenes was found out, because he A.) told the hand of the Queen he was going to commit treason and B.) told the Queens lover/nephew that he was going to commit treason and put him on the throne. I expected a little more form the spider then just straight up telling everyone closest to Dany he was going to commit treason against her. Might as well have told Grey Worm while he was at it. - Tyrion why doe she think Cersei is capable of being rational? Nothing in show shows her capable of this, which solidifies that I don't really complain about the acting I complain about the lack of story. Things just happen and we are told characters are acting a certain way, but nothing in the last 3-4 seasons show us why they act this way. - so ballistas are not effective against dragons? Last episode they were super effective, this episode they might as well have not even been there. Can they keep this stuff consistent from week to week? That's rhetorical because we know they can't. - Dany going mad has been foreshadowed and hinted at I get that. This season made that foreshadowing as subtle as a brick to the face but it was there... I guess. Her going mad when the city has surrendered is one of those things that I can't help but think "If this was a POV book chapter, and we had several others before this, explaining this mental collapse it might make sense" Think of the Cesei chapters in Feast, some of my favorites watching her spiral towards insanity. I think I get what they were going for (didn't really like it though), but if there isn't an incredibly good explanation next week this will be the worst. - Side rant, honestly with Dany this season and how Sansa Mean Girl'd her into insanity I don't really care. My real gripe was that Sansa wasn't in the path of Drogon at all this episode. The forced animosity with Sansa hating her continually for no reason was so unbearable to watch. This seasons treatment of Dan actually made me root for the Mad Queen to happen and burn it all down. - Euron should have just died by dragon fire. Personally he was my least favorite adaptation in the entire series and I was glad to see him go. The fight was whatever, it was going to happen, but it was another one of those "D&D don't really know what to do with Euron" type moments for me. Oh good thing you killed Jamie, oh no it was the Red Keep falling down on him so pointless Euron. - Jamie and Cersei, again in the context of this episode only I liked it. In the context of him taking until Season 8 Episode 3 to finally redeem himself then throw it all away in 4 and 5 just kind of falls flat for me. So, I can see these two ending the same in the books, but the journey to get there will be different. I know D&D love Lena, and she's great, but were they trying to get me to sympathize with her? The only thing I felt was she got off easy. - Anyone else thinking that Brienne is pregnant with Jamie's kid and a new Lannister is on the way? - Cleagane Bowl is the only thing I really wanted to see happen this season. Glad it did and glad it was only the Hound and the Mountain involved (no Arya helping theories came true thank the Seven). The Hound's "That's who you've always been line" I thought was the best of the episode. - Arya, so all it takes are bumps on the head for her to regain her humanity? Glad she didn't get to kill anyone important this episode, I've been over the unstoppable Arya thing for awhile now. But how many times did we see her get knocked over or hit with debris then cut scene and then we see her waking up again? Hope they don't send her to kill Dany for revenge on the innocents at Kings Landing, seeing how the Hound convinced her that vengeance isn't the way. So the jury is still out on her depending on what happens next week, but we do know they cannot keep things consistent between episodes. - Jon do you do anything useful anymore?
  12. The enemy fleet that not only has ambushed them multiple times doing more destruction to her forces then the Night King apparently, but the enemy fleet that was actually part of the discussion during their "strategy" meeting.
  13. This whole plot has been forced so hard onto the viewer and it is unbearable to watch. She just started hating her and not trusting her because she's super smart or something. Even last episode when Dany was fighting against the undead and her army was getting annihilated (until we found out this episode 50% of all forces survived because they didn't even watch the episode they filmed where everyone died) Sansa was bitching about her. And then after the battle that Dany sacrificed her whole army (minus the 50% reducing the actual impact of last weeks episode) Sansa is still treating her like she is some untrustworthy adversary. Sansa alienating someone who has just proven what a valuable ally she is is one of the reason Dany is cracking. Because of Sansa and the terrible storytelling I find myself finally rooting for Dany for the first time. I know the show is doing their best to force us into thinking the mad queen is coming, and that she is evil. I hope it does happen at this point. Sansa is an insufferable bitch with no redeeming qualities and ads nothing but high school level drama to the show. I hope Dany fly's Drogon right up to Winterfell and gives Sansa some Fire and Blood treatment.
  14. LokisRaider

    Not Buying it! Cersi, Hound, Bronn

    Right? She blew up the Sept that was filled with nobles and no one bats an eye. In fact they crowned her for it and not single person from lowest of the low to highest of the high had a problem with this. Why would anyone care that she kills her brother who killed Tywin and is accused of killing a king who is also coming to conquer them?
  15. So Arya is a giant plot problem right? -They give her the Frey pie thing so we know she is capable of face changing and impersonating a liege lord for awhile and then proceeds to kill off the entire family. -She is apparently so silent and stealthy she can run through Winterfell without anything noticing her. A castle that is overrun with an army of undead who's only purpose is kill anything living. She then kills a magical unstoppable being in the Night King with no problems what so ever. -She is literally on her way to Kings Landing to kill Cersei. And not a single person in the strategic planning session thinks "Let's send Arya to do what she is planning on doing? Hey Varys you still know all those secret passages into the red keep? Great, this should be wrapped up in less than a fortnight. No that makes no sense, how about this, let's just come up with the dumbest plan possible then forget about minor details like Eurons armada and just wing it. Sound good with everybody? Oh and make sure you all act like catty bitches just because." They turned her into an unstoppable force that everyone forgot about this episode. After last week everyone was saying how pointless a war with Cersei is because of Arya, and they all were proven right. But we know she will now not be as unstoppable as she has been shown to be because... they need her not to be for the plot.
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