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    Rant & Rave without Repercussion: Burn It All Edition

    I believed the Mad Queen Dany theory from Day 1. It was almost too obvious that it was gonna happen if you read and rewatch looking for the signs. No one believed me which is awesome because a lot of people owe me money tomorrow. All Season it was obvious that she has been mad. The bells didn't make her go mad. Jorah dying didn't make her go mad. Missendei dying did not make her go mad. Being born a Targaryen made her mad. She always cared about power more than the people. The only time she acted like she cared about the people was when they were worshipping her and doing exactly as she said and helping her get more power. I love that everyone sees it now and I can't wait for the hundreds of articles that will come out in the next few days that will point out all of the hints and foreshadowing for her to go crazy. More people would have realized that she was completely bonkers a lot sooner if she hadn't had such an amazing advisors in Tyrion and Varys. I knew she was going to be the final big bad. I didn't know we were going to kill the army of the dead so easily and then have her kill way more people than the army of the Dead. I wonder how many people following her regret that decision. I knew she didn't care about those people at all when she called it Jon's War. if those are your people and you were the ruler of the Seven Kingdoms it is your War. Speaking of Jon however. When he was looking around at the damage and destruction I screamed at the screen this is your fault too. I think Varys stopped whispering on purpose. He knew Danny would kill him and thought Jon watching him die would make him realize that she's not a good ruler. Jon clearly knew something was up with Dany. I honestly think (hope) that the secret he asked Sansa and Arya to keep wasn't about him being a secret Targ (Bran told them that) I think he told them that he agreed with them and they needed to keep an eye on Dany to protect Sansa so he needed to keep pretending like he was super loyal until they came up with a plan. I'm more mad at Jon for not stopping her when she was clearly crazy than almost anything that happened in this episode. I still don't understand why most people didn't see her crazy coming a mile away. I get it I didn't want to believe it at first but just because somebody hatches dragons and is kind of magical doesn't mean they'll make a good ruler. She was a great conqueror but that does not make a good ruler and history has shown that. What comes in a close second is the death of Cersei and Jamies redemption arc not being about redemption. Sometimes crappy people do good things but they're still crappy people and I think that's the point of his arc. I'm just mad at myself for rooting for a guy that pushed a kid out of window. Seriously someone couldn't have stopped her beforehand. The soldiers could have been like woah this has gone too far and started helping children out of the city. I guess this is why they killed rhaegal because another Dance of the Dragons would have been way too cool and we already got a dragon fight this season. Seriously where are the hidden dragons? I mean I guess Arya was at least trying to help people get out of the city for all the good it did. I did agree with the Arya running around the city part. I thought she was going to die and Jon was going to find her. I get that having a character we all know makes the scene matter just a little bit more. I don't know what was up with the musical score though.
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    [Poll] How would you rate episode 805?

    I got flamed all week for sticking up for Sansa because she was the only one to see through Dany off the rip. She's been around power hungry rulers who care about power more than their people before. I fear for her next week. She is the one who noticed Dany calling it Jons war... Umm if they are YOUR people and YOUR kingdom it's YOUR war. I hope Sansa makes it and is in some place of power she cares about the people. She was the one who was worried about how to feed them. She was also the one who wanted to let them heal and rest before taking them into battle again. Speaking of I hope Jon is as mad at himself as I was when I was screaming this is your fault too into the magic portal to Westeros. He didn't listen to Varys or anyone. He was so concerned with not leading and being pushed into power again (Aegon Targaryen 998th Lord Commander of the Nights Watch, King in the North) that he really didn't stop to think if Dany would be a great ruler or not. He was blinded by love very similarly to how a lot of us were blinded by a cool chick with dragons to hatch them magically so she must be a great Queen. What really bothers me is that I felt like he was noticing things in her that troubled him and never did anything about it. I never thought he would let it get to this point. He didn't want the job so let someone else do it regardless of the repercussions on the people of Westeros. (and their horses) he followed her blindly and even went against his sister's very good advice putting his own people in more Danger just to follow "his" queen.
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    [Poll] How would you rate episode 805?

    I completely agree. I don't remember what it was but I noticed something in the books that made me think huh she's on the bad side of the coin. I rewatched the show and it was pretty clear she was going mad. People saying she snapped after Jorah and Missendei died missed all of the clues and foreshadowing. I get it I rooted for her for a long time. I think in the coming days there will be hundreds of articles and videos made about each and every hint she was gonna burninate King's Landing and innocent people. Queen of the ashes indeed. On another note and part of the reason I understand their frustration about this character that they loved so much and wanted to be the good Queen who was a Breaker of Chains etc. because somewhere along Jaime's Redemption Arc I started to root for him. Watching him go back to Cersei to die with her really upset me because I felt lied to. I think Brienne may have been part of the reason he grew on me especially after he knighted her I was fully in Jamie's corner. I thought he could have had one of the greatest Redemption arcs of all time if not the greatest in fiction ever. I thought he was going to redeem himself again and kept waiting for his hand to go around her throat. I never would have guessed that that was how they would go out.
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    Have people given up all hope?

    Has anyone noticed in interviews it's pretty clear that even the actors hated the ending. Emilia Clarks interviews solidified the Dany going mad theory in my mind about a month before this season aired. None of them look happy when talking about the ending. Peter Dinklage looked downright depressed when asked about the ending said it was epic and rolled his eyes.
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    What will be the final WTF moment?

    This makes way to much sense! I wondered why the fact that they couldn't be in the same room kept being brought up over and over before the season started!
  6. I expected Cersei to be the big bad to begin with. I don't get why everyone is surprised that a series that started off killing the main character at the end of the first book/season would have this universes giant zombie battle be the end instead of taking out the head b.i.c.. So many things pointed to Cersei being the Endgame.
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    Missandei’s comment - Daenerys

    When Sansa was worried about food stores and whether or not they had enough for winter she could have taken the question a little more seriously if she was worried about taking care of the smallfolk. I don't think letting an entire Castle full of people starve so you can feed your dragons is very noble. Being snarky about them eating whatever they want isn't helpful to the situation when you are trying to keep an entire region full of people who are about to go to battle fed.
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    Missandei’s comment - Daenerys

    Thank You! I also wonder if people forget the coin flip analogy? Jon and Dany both have a 50/50 shot at being "mad". The chance is probably higher for Dany due to the inbreeding. I would also think Jon has less of a chance due to the infusion of Stark blood. We don't know how Jorah dying will effect her mood yet either. She lost her most trusted advisor and is left with her least trusted. This in turn could easily breed more paranoia of which she already has plenty. The last few seasons all of her "good" choices were made by her advisors against her actual wishes. What happens when she stops listening to them completely? There is a reason they have set up conflict between Dany and two of Jon's closest people. Dany vs. Sansa will come up again and I am sure Sam will be there to have some input as well. If I talk to anyone outside this forum about the possibility of Dany going mad they lose their freaking minds like there is zero foreshadowing for it in the show and I have to stop spoiling their t.v. with my book learning. I think I noticed her hint of madness in the books and it helped me see it more clearly in the show but it's there. This is still loosely based on Martin's work. I can't think of another show or book series where in the end it technically comes down to the good guys vs. the good guys. To see our favorite characters battle it out against one another is something I have been waiting for since all of the characters started coming together. The AotD gave them a common enemy but as was recently pointed out they have all been on opposite sides of wars in the very recent past. Cersei could die in ep. 4 or 5 & some weird wtf moment could easily make that happen again.
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    What will be the final WTF moment?

    I don't know why I just have a feeling Varys has something to do with it. I watched the first season of the show before I read the books and have always felt like he is holding back some huge game changing secret. My random thought crackpot ideas: A. Missandei attacks Sansa for talking smack about Dany in the crypts because she thinks that Sansa and Jon are trying to take her dragon queens throne. If Sansa is hurt or dies then Arya flips and tries to kill Missandei. Jon has to protect his sisters and Dany has to protect her bestie. B. Missandei attempts to attack Sansa who defends herself with the dagger Arya gave her and in doing so reveals that Missandei is a Faceless man. Dany flips because she just lost Jorah and realizes she can't trust anyone else because her most loyal subject and friend had been lying to her this whole time. Jon tries to calm her down but she flies off and tries to take out Cersei on her own. I know neither is likely but it would be a WTF moment either way.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    It's in the spoiler Tags on the op. My phone freezes everytime I hit a link. It was one I didn't recall either! That's why I was so interested. I can think of a few hints that they may know it's her. I was hoping for a nice thread with textual evidence as its one I don't remember ever reading. Thanks for the rundown!
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    The link to the Grand Vale conspiracy in the compendium is not working for me. Can someone please give me a link or a quick rundown of the theory?
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