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  1. They are not tortured same in literal sense, Tyland Lannister has more similar parallel - who was disfigured by Rhaenyra's torturers to discover location of royal treasury. Result of their actions and decisions, has similar outcome physically devastated young man - a ruin. First of all if you try to behave like a stickler it is "physically" not "phisically". Both have various injuries, through different causes - but both have suggested injuries to their reproductive organs, both person with promiscuous behavior unable to enjoy that. Theon hobbles like an old men through loss of several toes, and nowhere it says Aegon II couldn't walk just that he wanted to recover and didn't want to have his legs amputated he was starting to recover later as stated in material - something you don't seem to observe in detail: Offer to take the black in pivotal moment, after being in rulership of the city where character threatened or tried to kill children to protect their rules, which they both refuse after genuine consideration is very reminiscent -and there are NONE in the novel that compare. What it narrows the circle is multiple comparisons held in two different characters, and not separating them and trying to dissect them just because somebody's fan canon is offended. Likewise. Parallels are always there with eyes to see them and open mind to acknowledge them. There is expression that everything you say before "but" doesn't count. Joffrey is often compared to Aemond or Aegon , which is superficial comparison to say the least. Tv show also incited it by having Joffrey happy seen talking about Rhaenyra getting munched by his dragon. But also same actor, though in different tone narrating the same event in Season 5 lore. Joffrey wasn't insane. Oh really how fortunate, one of Daeron the Daring boy pretenders agrees. Aegon was also broken soul, and there was chance for him to make progress until the very end - like he was given chance to surrender and take the black, yet under influence of his mother - and maybe threat toward what remained to his family - Princess Jaehaera, refused. There is lot of dark in Theon yet. Any small progress he made due to Ramsey's torment isn't enough to wash all the blood and treason. Maybe in fires of R'hllor he will find penance for his sins. Aegon shows restraint, and capability to be influenced by his advisors, for good or ill, despite heavy grievances and emotional distress. You clearly haven't read the novel in detail, or have comprehension issues - there are various ways of sadness, depression and coping with the loss: Nothing says I love you than wanting to make two golden statues of his brothers- larger than Titan of Braavos, not quite smart but lovable nonetheless.
  2. There is depth to character of Jaime, huge part are introspection, judgement and development- for which we can thank his Pov chapters, which we don't have for characters of Fire & Blood, therefore Daemon seems like a sketch of character - with hints of Red Viper, and poor man's Elric of Melnibone like Darkstar - "the most dangerous man in Dorne". Topics like honor, evil , justice, chivalry, oaths are all encompassed in his character. Jaime himself reminds me besides Ser Cole a bit of Maedhros also, though never of lordling fleabottom. Main characteristics of Daemon that Jaime lacks besides roguishness was his ambition, capriciousness or even whoremongery. Gold Cloaks love or respect doesn't amount to much. They are simply said scum, ordinary armed thugs who are adoring person who bought them by giving them power in capital and free reign in the slums of King's Landing. It is truly hypocritical to blame Rhaenyra as reason for "most dangerous man in Westeros" who orders - blood & cheese to get unnerved. Daemon is main reason of Rhaenyra's corruption- from her early age up until her downfall - being the one of main reasons why Greens moved against her in fear from her husband, but also promoting people like Mysaria, Luthor Largent or two betrayers in Rhaenyra's service. To me it seems you are projecting lot of imaginary virtues to a character who doesn't have them and whose most acts are self-serving, impulsive or exploitative, with gifts given to him by fate - skill, charisma, high birth, dragon, valyrian steel - he could become a great man yet he destroyed it by his own idiotic actions. Only thing I agree with that many people are blind of, lauding character as badass or awesome that he was a failure - one of guiding forces of downfall of Targaryen dynasty.
  3. Result of their torture is the same, they are both ruined image of promising careless youth they were. There is more enough to show that Aegon II injuries influenced him in similar way to Theon ( for example when taunted by Mance Rayder's spearwives): They are both given choice to take the black in the moment while the settlement they are holding - King's Landing /Winterfell is being surrounded by superior army and both are for moment given to ponder the chance but they refused it : Maybe half population are lecherous or douches, as you speak from personal experience or introspection mayhaps? Yet not many characters in Asoiaf have all those parallels at same time. Also you can't compare each character you dislike with Joffrey, as there are many sort of villainous douchey nobleman characters like - Viserys, Aerion Brightflame, Gerold Dayne, Leo Tyrell even in other Martin's novels like Annelyn or Bretan Braith. It is ridiculous notion that Theon was "acting out of character" in doing many of his gruesome misdeeds, including allowing rape and murder by his men while he took control of Winterfell, murder of miller's wife who he did sleep whit frequently while she was begging him for mercy and two of her young boys, it is also ridiculous notion that his redemption is fully deserved or guaranteed - he easily might end up burned or decapitated in next chapters, or caught by Ramsey - various degrees of justice. Aegon actually in some sources shows restraint in claiming the throne, he clearly shows love toward his family - especially his brothers and dragon- I doubt all was black about that man, there might have been something golden besides Sunfyre. Regarding your "herd mentality" and claim that there is certain truth in numbers I say this : "Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned".
  4. She spared them so that she could torment them, and Helaena was dead soon as Green army was approaching the city. ... Rhaenyra's death was one of rare just Aegon II's decisions though it was maybe too cruelly enacted by forcing her son to watch it - influencing in Aegon becoming the Dragonbane.
  5. Who said explicitly that Aegon II had a redemption arc? I compared him to Theon for which there are plenty of parallels. ( lecherousness, general douchiness, suffering terrible injuries in the war- including his reproductive organs, having to murder or threaten lives of children to keep their social position, being offered to take the Black in pivotal moments of their lives - which they both refuse). Aegon the Younger was a hostage - various characters take hostages even hundreds of years later - like Eddard Stark, Jon Snow, Daenerys, Robb Stark, Lannister's. When army supporting their hostage is approaching intent of killing them - they don't have much choice than to use them to their defense. Advice to murder Aegon the Younger was actually given by Ser Tyland Lannister believing Black armies would disintegrate after loosing their claimant, which In my opinion wouldn't be possible because even without Viserys who lived still they had Rhaena of Pentos and her dragon to rally to. Aegon II's two sons and wife died - influenced or directly caused by decisions of Rhaenyra and Daemon - blood & cheese, knight's inquisitor, Maelor being torn to pieces in place supporting Rhaenyra, Mysaria's torment or Luthor Largent, so he really had just reasons to execute Rhaenyra though making her son watch was indeed cruel, he just didn't seem to care being focused on getting his revenge. Aegon might have done worse if he was truly cruel - like his half sister, like kill Aegon before his mother,or kill Baela after she attacked Sunfyre with Moondancer, wounds that would prove fatal to his dragon- yet they both survived as Aegon is showing more restraint. Rhaenyra was groomed to rule yet she failed miserably - especially in allowing the death of her hostage, her son and all dragons - including her own - not even once mounting it in battle unlike Aegon, it doesn't prove much - if he was more reasonable as Corlys suggested and offered pardons - it would might have changed Aegon's fate, or Borros Baratheon not being idiot and charging uphill on the shield wall in the muddy terrain- not remembering the battle of the Last Storm, or Crownlands army not betraying at the Battle of Kingsroad
  6. Yep he wasn't the best of Kings, yet he was capable of acts of mercy and redemption - like making some right choices on his deathbed, maybe too late but still it's something. But Robert riding a dragon wielding a huge warhammer, would be some sight to behold - even better then when he rode "The Last Dragon's" ass on the Trident. My opinion is based on their age - since Aemond was 20 year old at time of his death, and Daemon was 49 or something and despite his life experience - championed some of the worst decisions during the war: recruiting Dalton Greyjoy appealing on his bloodlust, promoting people like Mysaria, Luthor Largent and two betrayers, and blood & cheese.
  7. "Robert with a dragon", now that is a high praise, i see Aegon more like a Theon Greyjoy figure. Regardless Aegon showed he is less cruel than his half- sister, through multitude of her acts alone. Aemond is but a mirror image of his uncle, yet there was a chance for redemption as he was still young - and Daemon was corrupt until the end.
  8. It is relatively small step from sworn shield of a King's daughter to Kingsguard as for example Sandor Clegane's promotion would testify. You could say Jaime is loyal to the "Baratheon" regime - being sent as Lord Commander of Kingsguard to pacify the Riverlands- also both Jaime's and Cole's travails are tied to Harrenhal. Ser Cole is accused of murdering Lyman Beesbury by slitting his throat in Small council meeting - which is reminiscent of Jaimie's act. They are both Lord Commander of Kingsguard - not just any knight and leading armies in Riverlands - not simply fought, were best fighters of their time, had liaison with a lady of Royal court - controversial Queen figure that both had three bastards - one of which is named Joffrey... Any knight can make a knight - as we see with Perkin the Flea knighting every bum during the Moon of Three Kings. or Beric Dondarrion, or even person could pretend to be a knight like Duncan the Tall. Getting murdered in premeditated trap, in a meeting with three renowned warriors - Garibald the Gray, Pete the Lionslayer and Roddy the Ruin - who refuse his challenge, with Robb Rivers finest archer in Westeros and two more have him on scope is selling it short as a "peasants death". Ser Cole certainly died bravely acknowledging his doom: It is doubtful that Cole had similar relationship with Rhaenyra, as they met while he was 23 years old and Rhaenyra was 7 year old girl- he spent his next 10 years always being in her proximity - and it is doubtful he would develop romantical tendencies, unlike other characters like Daemon or Harwin Strong - which is much more plausible version. Despite what George says, Littlefinger's actions speak louder than that- Petyr has large part in downfall of Sansa's family and torment of people dear to her like Jeyne Poole - who he forces in one of his brothels to be "educated" for his purposes. There is hardly any good in that man even in relation to things he cherishes most - like adolescent fantasy of Catelyn. Cole is more then only women - "all he has is his honor and his skill with sword and lance", and he is also linked to Alicent Hightower, her sons as their tutor and even Alys Rivers. You unwittingly prove another parallel of Jamie and Cole - they both interfere in presumption of irreproachable royal authority, one by slaying the king and other as supporting other claimant. As true Varys said - they are both part of the riddle of the power, shadow on the wall, both Jaime and Cole represent swordsman who with his action influences fates of the Realm. Aemond is but a mirror image of his uncle Daemon- they are basically same person, yet there was still chance for Aemond's redemption as he was young, Aegon II proved he is less cruel than his half-sister in his actions. Though some dog might do better job than Aegon and especially Rhaenyra. It is explicitly stated that Aemond didn't command Cole to leave. In paragraph reason to split of Aemond and Cole is left far more open, than for example some idiotic suggestions that Rhaenyra had romantic relationship with Laena Velaryon - based on phrase "more than fond".
  9. Jaime and Cole have extraordinary martial prowess, they both got their female companions influence joining the Kingsguard - Rhaenyra and Cersei ( who are also parallels), they both become Lord Commander of Kingsguard, they are both involved majorly in fighting in Riverlands. Jaime Lannister was also fairly popular with women ( as Pia states), and as a tourney knight, Cole and Jaime are also both reviled in histories as Kingmaker and Kingslayer. Despite Jaime's high societal position he was chosen as a Kingsguard despite of it as a means of reigning in Tywin and through suggestion of Cersei, so your analogy doesn't apply. Jaime and Cole have also similar way of dealing with foes - in battle of the Whispering Wood - Jaime despite taken by surprise and his army annihilated, he attempts to cut his way to Robb and kill him, before the Butcher's ball - Ser Cole, when caught in a trap suggests a fight between him and three commanders of Riverlords , and draws his blade when negotiations fail. Littlefinger is hardly a complex character, in ethical sense he has grievance toward upper classes, unfulfilled adolescent sexual fantasy, yet he doesn't grow from there but becomes worse than those who have wronged him in his view , by exploiting lower classes and especially sexually exploiting young people in his brothels, manipulating and murdering those who cared for him - Lysa and causing war to achieve his aspirations. Ser Cole on the other hand was possibly right in attempt to stop Daemon's and Rhaenyra's corruption in ruining the Seven Kingdoms. Ser Cole died while returning alone from Harrenhal- being left by Aemond and Vhagar- the reason for their split is debatable, it might have been matter of tactics and joining forces with Hightowers and Daeron the Daring, feud for the Alys Rivers or I daresay he might have been disenchanted with his cause after witnessing Aemond's genocide inside of Harrenhal.
  10. Daemon is hardly anything like Jaime Lannister- he is a version of Oberyn or with some hints of Tyrion Lannister darker personality and issues. If any character is similar to Jaime Lannister it is Ser Criston Cole, with multitude of parallels, for example: Cole could be only linked to Littlefinger in most biased interpretation of events and even then doesn't seem to share Baelish's shrewdness and is more blunt in his approach, then again Martin's own introduction to a casting for a tv show makes him seem more morally complex than Lord Mockingbird.
  11. Braavosi have history of bad blood with Valyrians and dragons - of which House Targaryen is leftover, it is explicitly stated in material. They might be sympathetic toward Daenerys, yet human lives are short and dragons long. Who knows what next Targaryen rulers would do with them. Don't forget that Elissa Farman sold three dragon eggs to Braavosi, who might be very same eggs that Daenery's hatched - Jaehaerys I threatened to burn the city for them and Braavos with assassins yet they made Iron Bank reduce debts of the throne. For all the time they had them Braavosi might have figured they are useless to them and they respond only to the blood of dragonlords. Braavos rise started with the fall of Valyria and their might lies in their navy - which dragons are huge threat.
  12. Looking at their history: they were founded by escaped slaves from Valyrian Freehold, Faceless men who are part of their culture were created in torments of Valyrian volcanic slave mines, very city was hiding for centuries until they had some power to defy remaining dragonlords. Their rising power - naval supremacy and trade would be threatened by rise of aerial power of dragons, which looking at the Fire & Blood are long lived creatures- for around three hundred years or more. Who is to guarantee that Daenerys's heir or people who claim dragons would remain true to her policy of anti-slavery? If Braavos was to prevent rise of new Valyria- which is anathema to their society - time to strike is now while dragons aren't fully grown.
  13. Nah Braavos would never support Daenerys, because of dragons, their long life span and possibility of rebuilt Valyrian empire. Despite they might sympathize with Daenerys anti slavery attitude.
  14. If it is publicly released, which it was it, than it falls under scrutiny of the ruling power in Westeros at the time - Targaryen dynasty - which was ever sensitive about bad image - examples of censure by Baelor the Blessed, Aerion Brightflame,Bloodraven, Aerys the Mad King. Saying all Maesters are part of a hive mind is like saying all the doctors are part of same conspiracy, it couldn't be true as they have varied loyalties, ideas and goals and the more people are involved more the chance it would be found out.
  15. Character from F&B during the Dance of Dragons - Mysaria is also called Misery and the White Worm - who has Valyrian appearance, comes from Lys where daughter of Targaryen King left and became a prostitute. In The Lair of the White Worm: "Sir Nathaniel Van Helsing-type character believes the Worm is descended from dragons, who traded their physical power for cunning. " Firewyrms, worms with human faces, snakes with hands that appear in Asoiaf might be related and devolved form of dragons, or their ancestors - that were upgraded using Valyrian blood magic. Martin starts "House of the Worm" with: Decay= White Worm and all those that connect with it.
  16. Actually death of Ser Criston Cole is quite exquisite - Ser Pate of Longleaf says : Yet in real world histories there are epic songs that describe quite similar deaths of a renowned warrior. Like song "The Death of Father Milo Jovovich" ( not Mila Jovovich) written later about death of Montenegrin priest and warlord who fought against the Ottoman Empire in 1877. You have argument between warrior and his lord, him going alone and calling his enemies commanders to a duel, being killed in ambush with ranged weaponry, his head being cut off and mounted on a pike, even there is a raven gloating over severed head - eerily similar to Ser Cole's death. https://lyricstranslate.com/en/smrt-popa-mila-jovovića-смрт-попа-мила-јововића-death-father-milo-jov.html#footnote1_n3ww041
  17. You are saying that. I am saying that Hightower if we include The Faith and Maesters has more influence over majority of Westeros than most of those houses - but especially Arryns - who hold supremacy in other areas like sheep "husbandry" We see Roland Arryn being impressed by the wonders of the west - including Hightower to begin building the Eyrie:
  18. Ser Otto Hightower was raised by magnanimity of kings? More likely his own skill as an administrator. Hightowers have much more influential legacy, than many petty kings of Westeros- how many of there were anyway? Storm King, King of the Iron Islands, Griffon King, Gardner King, King of the Rock, King of the Rivers and Hill, King of Winter, King of the Arbor, King of the High Tower, Darklyn King, Vulture King, Barrow King, King of the Vale and Mountain, Red King, Marsh King, King of the Trident , King of the Fingers, Bronze King, King of Stone and Sky, King of the Torrentine, High King of Dorne, King of the Brimstone, King of Three Sisters, Hooded King... Hell even Ser Utherr Sheet might have some king's blood. Well Alicent did show quite able to birth Targaryen looking children at least - who were dragonriders- if Vhagar, Dreamfire, Sunfyre and Tessarion consider them worthy, I see not how plump spider could object.
  19. That says guy who takes profile picture of a pedo Daemon who promoted buying the maidenhood of girls from poor families - and getting them in prostitution, or the one who ordered murder of his brother's grandson - just a child in front of his siblings and mother - just to send a message. I daresay not the marks of a very good judge of character. Rhaenyra was always a tyrant - she wanted to "question sharply" - aka torture Aemond when he was only 10 years old and just lost his eye by one of her sons. She ordered Ser Vaemond Velaryon who rightfully claimed her children were bastards to be beheaded by her husband and his body fed to her lazy dragon Syrax. That all happened before even one of her children died - and she had chance to stop the war three times - with Orwyle's peace offering, when Alicent offered her Great Council and when Corlys offered her to send pardons to all - she might had built upon either or those and negotiated but she chose to be stubborn and vengeful. Aegon II story reminds much more of Theon Greyjoy ( both being lecherous and unable through their injuries to continue, despicable in ruling decisions - Theon executing people in Winterfell/Aegon ordering some of the executions, they both have pivotal moment - when they are being offered to accept the Black from Seasnake or Maester Luwin during siege - which both refuse). His family tragedy and deaths are actually more compelling downfall, with his horrible injuries, drinking and milk of poppy addiction - and overcoming it to get his vengeance over his half-sister.
  20. The written material begs to differ: Always it mattered, as the song goes "Everything counts in large amounts". Population, resources, control over masses through religion, monopoly over education, communication and health - are all present in Reach, and especially in alliance with House Hightower- as somebody said to Daenerys: "Man wants to be the king o' rabbits, he best wear a pair o' floppy ears." - that is what Aegon I had done when he accepted existing institutions in Westeros and built upon them. Viserys also did got cut on the throne when he ordered Velaryons who protested about Rhaenyra murdering Ser Vaemond and bastards taking their inheritance to get their tongues cut. He almost died then and was afraid to sit the Throne until his death - which implies unfitness to rule. What to do when King is unfit to rule? Moreover all the lords in Westeros gathered and voted (no small feat) 20:1 in favor of Viserys, son of Baelon against Laenor through Rhaenys, daughter of Aemon- which would be great basis for stabile succession for some generations to come.
  21. Unwin Peake is the simplest choice I guess, but under scrutiny it doesn't make much sense. Unwin had no support for his proposal to marry Aegon III to his daughter, as he belonged to the Greens - who lost the war and was from minor house - other regents were explicit about it. He as Hand of the King had control of the court and King's Landing for months before the death of Queen Jaehaera, but he only brought his daughter to the court after the death of child - indicating that he wanted to exploit her death - quite transparently , yet he didn't expect it. In a previous chapter we hear of Mushroom the rumors of Knight from House Harte trying to engage services of the Faceless men in Braavos. There is also suspicious death of Dalton Greyjoy- which disintegrated Ironborn fleet and allowed Velaryon's to save their remaining naval strength. Ultimately it is ward from House Harte that becomes Aegon III's queen - likely through influence his half-sisters had over him. Yes I have read it meticulously I might add, unlike you or so many others. This is text from F&B written by Gyldane - who writes that there are four or more versions present: Suicide due to being pregnant by being raped in brothel - on order of Rhaenyra - by Mushroom. Suicide when Mysaria tormented her with tale of how Maelor her youngest son died - by Eustace. Suicide after seeing deaths of Ser Horon and Ser Denys from House Velaryon - by Munkun which is nonsense as executions were daily during Rhaenyra's short reign. Murder by Luthor Largent as Greens were approaching as rumor was that sparked King's Landing revolt - which Gyldane disapproves. What is to stop Luthor to send either of his gold cloaks to kill her themselves - Queen Helaena Out of all those versions, neither which paints Rhaenyra in favorable light I might add- one that makes most sense is murder - as we see with Russian, French revolution during civil war when other side is getting close to rescuing and rallying figureheads - they were eliminated. Helaena was certainly threat to Rhaenyra - she was Viserys daughter, still able to bear children and dragonrider as well, about being broken - well here is what book says about broken: She punished Corlys Velaryon and Addam the LOYAL for doing right thing, might be better if she dealt with cause of greatest evil act there and then, but of course she didn't becoming responsible and deserving her own gruesome death in turn. Mysaria was useful, and you accuse me for not reading novel ?!? Lady Misery was useful for Rhaenyra's downfall more likely - turning her against loyal bastards and House Velaryon, here is what White Worm represent from one of earlier Martin's works: It is one of the versions of event presented in the novel, or are things facts - as long as you agree with them? Out of all sources Mushroom and Eustace were only present in King's Landing when death happened and had chance to meet Mysaria- while Gyldane lives much later and Munkun only arrives after the end of war. Comprehensively reading the novel and having a common sense beats reading the wiki - which anyone could edit. Targaryens as invaders had to stabilize realm they had to rule by using good public relations , even while they had dragons, look at Maegor and wars with faith due polygamy, Jaehaerys I using doctrine of exceptionalism to pacify the realm in regard of incestuous marriage. It is likely that later Kings also had to watch on their public image, especially since they lost dragons - so being called brood of kinslayers or worse would be certainly censured - mostly using Master of Whisperers - like Bloodraven or writters who openly publish their books would have sort of self censure fearing they would bring ire of dragonspawn. Baelor burned different books for various reasons- Mushroom doesn't contain sorcery like that of Septon Barth but rather salacious record of his family's actions - something he tried to change.
  22. Catspaws of her husband did cut the head of the Haelaena's son, killed innocent bedmaid, threaten to rape her daughter and kill all of them if she didn't choose which child should die- Rhaenyra didn't punish those responsible for that vilest of crimes - but promoted them - Daemon and Mysaria both. Rhaenyra formed ominously sounding knight-inquisitors to hunt two surviving Aegon II's children and placed bounty on their heads - which likely created atmosphere that led to death of Maelor - his head and body of Ser Rickard Thorne were delivered to her. While Hightower army was approaching the King's Landing, with Daeron and betrayers - it is possible that she ordered Luthor Largent to get rid of Haelena Targaryen - as she was major threat as Viserys daughter too, dragonrider and woman who could still bear children. Even if not guilty of direct order which I doubt, she failed to care better about her distraught hostage, half sister and to stop Mysaria from tormenting her. Alicent Hightower herself had no legitimacy, as her only tie to the throne was through children by Viserys who were all targeted to be murdered. She wasn't a threat and could be left alive and tormented with death of all her children - as was likely Rhaenyra's delight. Even Queen Jaehaera who suspiciously died and got replaced by Velaryon ward- making that house profit most from her death, yet that happened few years after the conflict, Aegon II wanted to execute Baela as she tried to kill him and his glorious dragon Sunfyre eventually died of wounds from that attack, though it killed Moondancer, but still was convinced to let her live as she was useful alive - showing to be more reasonable than his half-sister. Aegon III was a hostage, army of the Blacks was approaching intent on murdering him and his family, it is standard policy to use threat toward hostages as deterrent to opponents - Eddard had Theon Greyjoy, Dany takes Mereen children and Jon Snow takes wildling children as hostages. Fire & Blood certainly shows Black side in more favorable light as they were winners of the war, though pyrrhic and written published material about ancestors of ruling Targaryens would try to obscure their worst transgressions. We see Baelor the Blessed - son of Aegon III censure the books that present his family negatively, we see Aerion Brightflame goes bonkers on the puppet show where dragon is slain... For example Daemon is never called kinslayer in the book while Aemond and Aegon II were both called such. We have absolutely no mention of appearance of Ser Harwin Strong though he was Rhaenyra's sworn shield and present in major tourneys and events.
  23. 1. Rhaenyra is one quarter Arryn, and Hightower are more noble than that house and present better majority of Westeros population - Reach, along with connections with Faith and Citadel. 2. Viserys I was declared by heir through all Lords in Westeros gathering and choosing him over Rhaenys - he also chose her so his brother wouldn't get the throne - yet when they married 10 years before the war - whole changing of heir became absurd. 3. You know you are describing his half sister too? Hot tempered, fat, fool, glutton, cheating on her husband, during her reign all dragons and some of her hostages died - biggest failure in the Dance. Though honestly I believe choice as always boils down to do you prefer more giant douche or turd sandwich. Both sides were horrible.
  24. There is plenty of great material to portray Aegon II as nuanced character, only downside he is incapacitated and missing for large part of the story - by his description he seems like a contradiction - which fits rest of his character. Topics of addiction to food, milk of the poppy, drink and lecherousness' could be portrayed through him and eventual deprivation of same through his injuries, or need to overcome milk of the poppy and facing the great pain due to his burns. They are all great content for actor to convey. Two moments besides his final encounter with Rhaenyra would be possibly great scenes:
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