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    Why LF and Tyrells didn't include Varys to poisoning Joffrey?

    I think Littlefinger didn't need Sansa and Tyrells for poisoning Joffrey at all. He could do it on his own without leaving loosy ends. His real goal was not to kill Joffrey, but to involve Tyrells and Sansa in assassination and thus get perfect leverage over them. It is why assassination plot was so complex and included unnecessary conspirators. Joffrey's death probably even wasn't LF's purpose, only a mean to achieve his purpose.
  2. Maybe she herself wasn't aware Robin wasn't Jon's. It was discussed in above posts.
  3. Dark hair parents can have blond children, not other way around. Here I am simplifying things a bit, but in general dark-haired child born to auburn-haired and blond parents is seven hell suspicious. I think Littlefinger has dark hair. I not insist Littlefinger is Robin's father. Lysa enjoyed company of her suitors in Eyrie, maybe she enjoyed company of men in KL as well. Also, she herself could sincerely believe child is Jon's :
  4. Hair color. Lysa had auburn hair, Jon Arryn was blond, Robin has brown hair. Now I refuse to believe Robin is Jon's.
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    Sansa really is Alayne

    I like this.
  6. Good point. This explains why Lysa never told Littlefinger. This is interesting. But in this case I would expect Robin's health to improve after his mother died.
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    Ashara, post Harrenhal possibilities

    I think possibility that Raegar and Elia tried to protect their son by swapping him with his body double is a very plausible one. But I agree with Ygrain that such baby swap more likely took place on Dragonstone. Elia was described as intelligent lady. When Arys summoned her to King‘s Landing or just sent after her and children she had to understand what it meant. And she had to be afraid. So I think she used opportunity to swap babies while she still wasn‘t in total control of Arys and Varys. Maybe she and Rhaegar discussed this possibility in advance or maybe it was her own spontaneous decision (in this case Rhaegar probably only learned about the swap after he came to KL). In any case, Ashara likely was Elia‘s most trusted confidant. Princess Rhaenys was presented at court in KL, but Aegon had never been there, so swap couldn‘t be very risky. I also think that Elia allowed Varys to swap child one more time in KL, just because otherwise he would suspect her ruse. So the story about Pisswater prince maybe has some truth in it. It doesn‘t mean I believe Young Griff is Aegon‘s double from Dragonstone. Varys most likely realized he was tricked, if not instantly, then in few years, when he saw child growing. Or maybe he never intended to support Aegon‘s claim at all and only wanted take control over him. I can‘t resist but speculate what happened to real Aegon if this swap took place. Elia would have wanted to send him to Dorne. Or to Essos, where Martells had many connections. But maybe she wasn't able to do this or didn‘t want to take a risk. Maybe boy was left on Dragonstone. There is also possibility, that she got help from one of Narrow sea houses. In this case Velaryons look pretty good choice. They are Valyrian looking Targaryen loyalists. Interestingly, Aurane Waters is of close enough to Aegon‘s age and he looks like Rhaegar. It seems the guy also has dragonlike ambitions – he stole Cersei‘s dromonds and became a pirate king of Stepstones. This reminds me of prince Daemon Targaryen, another king of the Stepstones and the Narrow sea. Aurane's grey green eyes don‘t fit the picture. Besides, Rhaegar or Elia had no reason to trust Velaryons because they supported Aerys against crown prince: Of course, Lucerys Velaryon could change his mind in the face of Aerys‘es madness, or maybe he just pretended being loyal to Aerys. Or he, as master of ships, was chosen by Aerys to bring Elia to KL, only at some moment he came to some understanding with her. But all these options are purely speculative. There is one place, closer to Dragonstone than Dorne or Essos, ruled by Targaryen loyalist house – Tarth. This passage from ACoK drew my attention to house Tarth: It was childhood memory of Brienne. There was a lady with violet eyes in Tarth. Valyrian features are not so rare in Essos, especially in Lys, but somehow Brienne remember singer’s purple eyes, but not her silver golden hair which would be easier to notice. There were only two persons with violet eyes and dark hair mentioned in all books: Aegor Rivers and Ashara Dayne. Tarths are known to have recent Targaryen ancestry which could only mean that one of Egg’s sisters married to this house. So likely Rhae or Daella was a grandmother of lord Selwyn Tarth. This also means his great grandmother was Dyanna Dayne (and great great grandmother was Mariah Martell). This makes Selwyn third cousin to Ashara or to her father. This is distant kinship, but of course both Selwyn and Ashara were aware of it. I think this kinship could have encouraged Ashara to turn to lord Selwyn in need. There is also other more mysterious relation between houses Dayne and Tarth. They share the same morning-evening-star symbolism, I mean Morn and Evenfall Hall and Starfall, Darkstar and Evenstar, falling stars, sun and moon on their shields, Dawn, Sword of the morning and morningstar, the one Brienne used to chastise her mockery suitors during melee at Bitterbridge. Only I am not sure if this symbolism is related to real communication between houses. During the visit of the plum-eyed woman Brienne had to be at least three years old, that means event took place in 283 or later. If lord Selwyn indeed helped to hide the prince in 282, Ashara could come later to take him away, most likely to Essos. Of course all this could be (and maybe even more likely) about Lyanna’s child business, not Elia’s. And it seems it wasn’t just business – a picture from Brienne's memory implies Selwyn and plum-eyed lady were lovers. Which makes me wonder if Brienne could have younger (possibly half Dayne) sibling.
  8. I think it's possible. Lysa persuaded Jon summon Petyr to his service in King's Landing, so they probably had opportunity to spend some time together. Robin took after Lysa, not Jon Arryn. But I disagree on abortion issue. Lysa loved Petyr, she wanted his child. She never forgave her father for making her get rid of her first child. She had no reason to get rid of Jon's child either, she needed him to strengthen her position as lady Arryn. Finally, she became ruling lady of Vale as mother of Arryn's heir. Robin is weak because first use of moon tea had complications which affected Lysa's fertility. Or maybe he just was born like this because of some special heredity, which made him sickly but also gifted in some way. Or maybe all fertility problems came not from Lysa, but from Jon Arryn, who had no children with his two wives before Lysa, so Robin could be his trueborn son.
  9. Duel resolved issue between Daemon Targaryen and former betrothed of Laena Velaryon.
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    Sansa really is Alayne

    Lady died, so we don't know if Sansa would ever be able to form bound with her direwolf, like Bran or Jon did. Maybe Lady was just her pet. Bran, Rickon and Robb had the same hair color. Btw it's strange that four children took after Catelyn. 4/5 - that's against the odds.
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    The danger of Gerold Dayne

    One more wild thought: Maybe it was not Varys, but Doran who pressed Gerold to pursue his claim to the Iron throne? And when Gerold refused because he wanted "to remain Darkstar" he was condemned, framed for maiming Myrcella and targeted by Areo Hotah and Balon Swan.
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    The danger of Gerold Dayne

    I agree he is dangerous because of his claim, but not because he is bastard of Aerys. I am almost sure Gerold Dayne is descendant of Maegor, son of Brightflame. Dyanna Dayne was Aerion‘s and Egg‘s mother, so house Dayne was simply obvious choice for rising and hiding baby Maegor. This is probably most plausible scenario. Gerold is both Dayne and descendant of Aerion Targaryen. It seems Darkstar knows about his claim. I think that is exactly what he means when he talks about „weaning on venom“. Venom is Maegor‘s grudge against Aegon and his descendants who have deposed him. Btw, in 300AC Maegor can be still alive, he is only 68 years old. There was also a hint Gerold was thinking about himself as a ruler: It seemed like Gerold was thinking about his claim, but realized he couldn‘t achieve it without massive bloodshed. It seemed he didn‘t find his ambition worthy of thousands of deaths. It seems the guy has a conscience in contrary what Martells say about him. I even doubt he maimed Myrcella, more likely Doran has framed him. I think there are pretty good chances that Varys is descendant of Aerion. Aerion was described as promiscuous, so he likely sired bunch of bastards during his exile in Essos (here). Gerold could be useful to Varys as claimant. Gerold's claim challenges claims of all Egg's descendants. On the other hand, Gerold‘s claim is worthless without supporting military force, but I can‘t see how he could rise an army on his own. Nevertheless, Gerold was thinking about leading an army (quote above). Why? Maybe someone made him an offer? Varys could be the one who could promise army to Darkstar. At least I can‘t think of anybody else. The problem is, Varys already has a claimant, fAegon. Maybe Gerold is Varys‘es plan B or C? I don‘t really believe Darkstar is Red Viper‘s son, but Oberyn‘s age is not a problem. Obara is probably even older than Gerold. She was born when Oberyn was 14 or 15. There was also a paramour of lord Yronwood, whom Oberyn bedded when he was 16. If she has a child by him, he has to be 26-27 years old in 300bc.
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    Poker Face

    I think Doran is one of the best, only we haven't yet discovered what he is hiding :). Good catch.
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    Elia Martell: Yes, another Septa Lemore speculation

    I think these daily swims probably are so far the most revealing clues about Lemore's past. Neither highborn ladies nor septas are usually trained in swimming. Most of the westerosi women would be afraid to dive in to the current of the river as mighty as mother Rhoyne. Septa Lemore probably learned to swim in her childhood. Maybe she lived by some big river, or maybe she played in Water Gardens. And yes, her freedom and confidence also point to Dorne. But she doesn't necessary be princess Elia, she could be one of her childhood friends, maybe daughter of servant. The one who could even become real septa eventually. I don't think Ashara is Lemore, but Ashara could spent her childhood in water pools as well.
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