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  1. They pax taxes but their loyalty is otherwise shallow and they don't aid the crown when it's threatened and such. Only Tywin helped Joffrey, and that's because he is family and wants his legacy and heirs on the throne. Stannis with only the men of a single region would've easily taken King's Landing if it wasn't for the combined Lannister / Tyrell force. The US government analogy is invalid as the federal government is financially and militarily powerful, with a very large standing army directly loyal to it. Some states have their own militias but they pale in comparison to the might of the federal army, always have. The states would be foolish to try and rebel or secede against such a force, some like Texas have tried but all have failed. In Westeros on the hand, rebellion is easy and the crown can't do much about it. The civil war in the US was not a free for all with semi-autonomous regions each doing what they wanted, it was simply North vs South. The revolutionary war was likewise two sided, between a monarchy and the colonists who wanted freedom, they had the resources and man power to rebel but it was a long hard victory that could've ended up with Britain victorious. In Westeros, when the other regions rebel, especially in unison, the crown is fucked, it has little or no chance without others coming to it's aid, due to it's small population and military prowess. The regions still paying tribute to the crown so long after the Targaryen invasion and death of the dragons is actually absurd and nonsensical, as it lacks the military might to enforce such.
  2. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    Very interesting theory, I would much prefer that than to have her totally betray her morals and inner character.
  3. They've been independent since the start of the story. Only some of the houses fought for the Mad King, only Tywin fought for Joffrey. The Crownlands are not powerful, they don't have the military prowess to enforce any allegiance. It's like if Iowa tried to be the central government for New York, California and Texas, with each of those three being subservient to it, doesn't work. The Targaryens only united Westeros due to military might and dragons.
  4. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    Oh right I forgot. But still, 3 mad Targaryens in a row is a too much. It should have been a Luke & Leia situation, she's his sister once removed after all, it would've made much better story I think.
  5. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    Right but that happens in the episode 3, then we get the son Luke not following in the foot steps and instead fighting against him in episodes 4 - 6. In GOT the first we already had two bad apples : The Mad King and Viserys. The Dragon's daughter should have transcended the trend and gone the opposite way, otherwise what's the point? There is no Luke analog to her, she's the last Targaryen, it's all over.
  6. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    Well the books aren't out yet so we don't know how things pan out exactly in them, and how the readers will respond. I love GRRM's style, and I actually enjoy how to properly portrays war and isn't afraid to kill off main characters. Many others feel the same of course, so what you are saying here is not true. There are people who like simple and sugar coated, and others who like harsh and gritty, it's always been that way and there is nothing different now in the modern day. All that being said, I think sometimes what is real and ugly, doesn't always make the best story. As I gave above in an analogy, imagine if Luke was corrupted and joined the Sith instead of helping bring them down? Is that different from Disney everybody's happy bullshit? Of course it is, but it's not a good story, it's a pointless narrative because the character doesn't transcend the trend. I like to root for characters, that doesn't mean they have to be good two shoes all the time, but fantasy epic protagonists should be overall good / redeemable / redeemed, otherwise why care about them? Before Dany's decline (and especially before she came to Westeros) she was only one of two characters that was in a position of power who we could care about and who was suppose to be a good person, the other being Jon. What's the honest fucking point of another mad Targaryen? The Mad King's daughter filled his shoes and then some, the end. Bravo, now let me shit out my pop corn.
  7. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    I've considered writing fantasy dramas myself, but I am so disturbed by this shit that I think I'll stick to comedic memes.
  8. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    Umm no, being civilians under the rule of the enemy does not make you an enemy. Civilians voted for Hitler, so what, they believed in false hopes of a great German Empire. Syria was destroyed by the US and it allies funding armed rebels and terrorists there, as well as drone striking and bombing into oblivion. Civilians can be terrorists, doesn't mean they all are. The people Dany killed were not terrorists, and certainly not a threat to anyone. I was hoping you were trolling or something but you are clearly a psychopathic nutcase. The only thing I can say to people like you who have a total lack empathy is, I hope you wind up on the end of what you believe is justified.
  9. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    They are civilians........ Please turn yourself in to the nearest asylum, thank you.
  10. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    Sadly I think it does. Martin told Dumb & Dumber the ending and major plot points. The Night King, and Arya's killing of him, is of course made the hell up, but this is probably how it goes down in the books. Now undoubtedly the books will make her descent into madness more believable, but I still don't think it makes for good story. I mean imagine if Luke joined the Sith and replaced his father Darth Vader instead of transcending the trend and putting an end to them.
  11. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    She was mad all along... I don't think that is madness... Burning down cities for the sake of doing so isn't mad... Do you think before you type? How can a person contradict themselves in the next sentence without realizing, and then continue to make illogical statements. It doesn't matter what it's the way of, madness is madness. If being a serial killer runs in the family the police don't well golly gee shucks, he comes from a long line, not crazy at all, lets let him go.
  12. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    Troll, crazy, stupid, I can't tell..... No shit Sherlock, because I'm not a noble blonde haired dragon riding girl about to mass murder innocents for no fucking reason. Yeah she said that, because she is mad. How does her stating it before hand not make her mad? How about this, I am going to kill my neighbor for no reason, there now it won't be madness when I do it. They chose to run because they were getting torched you son of Einstein, what fucking difference does it matter which way they ran? They wouldn't have to run if it wasn't for some lich on a lizard destroying everything in site. Their military was destroyed first thing off the bat.
  13. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    Yes, actually that was the stupidest aspect to begin with, more of Dumb & Dumbers fantastic writing. In the Battle of Blackwater Cersei ordered some deserters executed, I would expect people to be trying to get away here also.
  14. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    In this show, the bells were rung and the enemy surrendered, so she won the war. They only ran after she started burning them alive. Please tell me what they hell you would do in such a situation? She already had King's Landing when the bell's rung, it was over, she went mad after that. Imagine if the allies bombed every German city to the ground after the fall of Hitler just cause they were ticked, would that not be mad?
  15. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    Oh.....my.........dog....... The enemy surrendering means you don't have to kill the civilians, how hard is that to comprehend? No they didn't run to Cersei, they ran all over the place and hid because a fucking dragon was burning shit down genius. Civilians run for their lives when they panic, and try to get away from whatever is going to hurt / kill them or their loves ones, obviously. They don't surrender, they don't fight, and they aren't a threat to you, that's why they are called civilians. How the hell would Cersei protect them?
  16. GOTFanatic

    They ruined Jaime once and for all

    Yup, letting down his guard and talking to Brienne about how he became the "King Slayer" was the beginning of his transformation. His progress continued when he saved Brienne and then later when he sent her off to save Sansa and Arya. Leaving Cersei completed his change of character, but then Dumb and Dumber crapped on everything. I mean why the hell would he back to her now, after she betrayed all of them, and after she hired Bronn to have him killed? Is he really that stupid that he didn't put 2 and 2 together to realize who offered Bronn Riverrun?
  17. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    They are not innocent to her because she is illogical / mad. Civilians do not "surrender", armies / lords do, you don't even understand what you are talking about. They were running for their lives you loon, dear lord.
  18. GOTFanatic

    Mourning Dany

    Are you mad yourself? How the hell is mass murdering innocent civilians when the enemy has surrendered not mad?
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    [Poll] How would you rate episode 805?

    Where are the negatives on the voting scale? Total dog shit! But honestly my expectations were already very low after the disastrous previous two episodes.
  20. GOTFanatic

    Not Buying it! Cersi, Hound, Bronn

    Again your defense of her inaction is nonsensical. What would it matter if those factions hear about what she did? Dany and her allies are already going to march on King's Landing, so it's a moot point. Killing Dany would've been the smartest thing to do, as she would have no more threat of her dragon, and the troops loyal to her would become disorganized and leaderless.
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    Not Buying it! Cersi, Hound, Bronn

    The flaw in your reasoning is that nobody else is there to witness this, so killing them isn't going to automatically propagate throughout the kingdom. Also killing them would end the threat to her rule and thus there would be no need to make Dany look more evil.
  22. GOTFanatic

    Who's Lord?

    The show doesn't explain who is lord of : The Westerlands The Riverlands The Reach That the Lord of the Stormlands is unknown is mentioned on the show, which is absurd as there is an order of succession and they should be reaching out to all the great houses for potential help. An unnamed Prince of Dorne is also mentioned...........sigh.
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    Why do some people have a problem with Sansa?

    Useless character, does nearly nothing the entirety of the show. At least Tyrion was useful before becoming useless, she's been that way since season 1. Her only accomplishment was getting the Vale to help Jon in the "Battle of Bastards", but she doesn't even do that right. stupidly not telling him about the pact, nearly getting Jon and his whole army killed. She role was that of a hostage or escapee for most of the show, no shes just a harsh bitch who doesn't like Dany.
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    Not Buying it! Cersi, Hound, Bronn

    No her prime goal is to kill all of her enemies, she sent Bronn to assassinate Tyrion and Jamie, but doesn't kill Tyrion when he is right in front of her. Why would rather paint her as a villain, when can outright get rid of her? Your defenses of this awful writing don't stand up. So he was in a town close to Winterfell, okay, but they should still be guarded. Tyrion is the hand of the Queen, and Jamie is a loyal ally, they shouldn't be travelling without several guards at least.
  25. GOTFanatic

    Not Buying it! Cersi, Hound, Bronn

    Exactly my thoughts. Bronn waltzing into Winterfell unnoticed, where's the guards? Bronn not caring to betray two people he was previously been loyal to, ruined character. This guy previously risked his own ass to save Jamie when he charged towards Drogon, and volunteered himself to be a champion for Tyion during his trial in the Eyrie. Jamie back peddling and going back to Cersei, how does he not understand that it was her that hired Bronn to kill them? What was the point of his relationship to Brienne? Cersei hires Bronn to kill these two, but then she doesn't kill Tyrion or anyone else when they show up to talk to her at Kings Landing. STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!
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