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  1. Not all women who were mentioned here were/are "women in power", and by "power" I mean decisional one. Even the three that had/have that kind of power (Dany, Cersei and Lysa) differ from one another in terms of their source of power and its limitations. Lysa was regional and not the most powerful either, while Cersei is a Regent. We still don't know what she is going to do in the coming books. Her story is not over yet. The one with the greatest power is Dany and she didn't accumulate that power by being stupid. Neither Catelyn nor Sansa were in a position of power. Sansa least of all. She was basically a prisoner, and still is for all intents and purposes. Catelyn was a great Lady and with authority but she didn't have any power outside her household managerial duties. Arianne is a princess and heir but not a ruler. Mel has "magic" powers but the only reason most people obey to her, or don't dare to go against her, is because she is backed by Stannis. Anyway, I think it depends how each of us readers see them, but it's unfair to say they are written as stupid or crazy. Cersei is...well, Cersei. lol I would've liked for her to be a Catherina Sforza or Isabella d'Este type of regent. But you can't become a Sforza or d'Este by being the daughter or Tywin Lannister, so there is that. Besides, she is a great character to read. Which is one of the most important factors in a story/book. Lysa obviously had mental issues and given her backstory I feel empathy and some sympathy for her, despite her actions. She actually doesn't seek power and doesn't care for it. All she ever wanted was love and affection. Unfortunately, she sought for it in the wrong person. A person to whom also a good man (Ned) fell victim of, and I never considered him stupid either. Although I know some do, IMO unfairly. All female characters in the books, with very few exceptions, have flaws and qualities, just like the male characters. I don't even think Cersei is stupid. I think she is selfish and she is paranoid (which is not entirely baseless,) so she acts on impulses and "feelings", and some preconceived notions of power and male leadership. The "male" thing is a key issue with her, I think. I could be wrong here but I find that a very fascinating and intriguing aspect of her to explore. Dany, Catelyn and Sansa are very much loved by many fans. I'm not a big fan of neither Catelyn nor Sansa, but I've never seen them as weak or stupid. Show Sansa, yes, but not book Sansa.
  2. Indeed, there are similarities. However, Mel isn't aiming to bring herself to great power and her motivations aren't selfish. It is true that she is trying to control events and thinks she knows what she is doing (wrongly so.) But she is also religious and it is driven by her faith (for good or bad) and her visions ( which are not a lie) rather than emotions and impulses. Although, one might say that she is also driven by fear (of the apocalypse) and a sense of urgency. But I do need to read more of her POV in order to judge Mel. Usually, I do cut her some slack for not getting things right or half right (depending how you see them) because she is trying to read and decipher signs and visions. Not an easy task. Her problem is that she is a fanatic also and like all good fanatics she has a narrow view, and she's dead set on it. At least for now. By the way, I actually don't completely blame Cersei for being paranoid about the whole Valonqar prophecy either. However, despite what Mel says to other people and the self-confidence she projects, we do see in her POV that she does question herself - which is why her POV is one of my favorites by the way. Maybe there isn't enough self-reflection at the moment, but we can see some doubts creeping in. Mel might be changing too. Or, with the threat getting closer and bigger she might double down. I don't know. I find it very difficult to predict Mel. But I can't wait to read more.
  3. Speaking of dreams and Cersei, it's interesting that her first POV chapter opens as follows: It's a foreshadow alright, of what will happen later on. But what I find interesting it's that she is dreaming both of her biggest desire (The Iron Throne) and her biggest fear (Tyrion).
  4. I'm willing to watch 10 new shows in a row, if I can get Winds. lol Dunk & Egg would be good too. F&B I care the least about because of the structure. But yeah, I'll take anything as well.
  5. I'll try to be concise and as clear as possible but English is not my mother tongue, so bare with me. By dynamic I don't mean inner change, as in Jamie's case, for example. I find her story arch and actions dynamic. She is proactive, first behind the doors and then full frontal. Usually with terrible results but it makes for a great read and certainly not a dull character. I find her static inward and dynamic outward, if that makes sense? Actually, I'm not so sure it's fair to say that she remains static inwards completely either. She obviously becomes worse, and I think in the coming books she will worsen even more. We do have a glimpse of that by the end of the books. I find it interesting that she reflects on her not having friends, female friends. And that she genuinely thinks (wrongly) that Taena is her one true friend. I find that interesting because I see Cersei as despising women, because she despises herself being one. I do not have sympathy for Cersei but I can find some empathy for her. Without going too far back and analyse her background and upbringing, and Westeros social rules for women, she is in a bad place when we read her POV AFFC. Her first and most beloved son has been killed, and she had witness his agony. I am not a mother but I am a daughter and I don't need to have a child to sympathise with her grief in that regard. Right after that, her father is killed. I think despite of their history, or my opinion is of her as a person, Cersei loved her father. At the very least held him in high regards. But above all, Tywin represented security. He was the "rock" of House Lannister. Furthermore, I think she feels Jamie's change towards her. Add to that the paranoia in regards to Tyrion, which is not without cause, and you have a powder keg ready to explode.
  6. You mean Cersei? I like reading her for basically 2 reasons. She is the main POV in KL, in AFFC, and it is fun and interesting to read how she sees the events and judge people (so wrong). In this regard, I see a lot of similarities with Arianne actually. As a character, I find her very dynamic.
  7. How about Victarion? I don't know if people have strong feelings against him, I haven't seen many. But I often do feel for the guy.
  8. Oh, it is an abomination alright. I mean the fact that they have sex right next to their son's corpse is mega fucked up, rape or not. Absolutely. And that's the crux of the matter with D&D.
  9. I feel like all characters have had their fair share of criticism and understanding, tbh. I'm not sure who is left out. Ramsay maybe?
  10. Agreed. Although I do think they didn't meant for that scene to be seen as a rape in the show either but the execution was clumsy and the butterfly effect that Martin mentioned. This is based on the interviews that Lena and Nicolaj gave at the time. In the end though, it doesn't matter their intentions, only what we see on the show. IMO, they should've cut off that scene entirely, given that the context that is in the book was missing in the show. Even then, I would think twice before putting it on the show. As Martin mentioned, the show is about visuals. You are not in the head of any of them.
  11. This is possible. And she is also paranoid, which I give her some slack for that given the prophecy and Joffrey's murder. But that's the best case one can make for her.
  12. I think she meant that she read that scene as a rape in the books too, while Martin didn't intend to.
  13. True. But it comes after 9 (intense) years of living and breathing GOT - with results that we know - without much pause in between either. And even though we've only had one new show so far, just hearing about more coming it becomes a bit too much. I wish there were some long pauses and one project at a time. But I know television doesn't work like that.
  14. Don't make me go through all Cersei's thoughts in AFFC, let alone actions, because I finished that a month ago. Yes, I do believe she loves her children, in the sense that I know she doesn't hate them or do them harm willingly. However, her actions are driven mainly from her desire to prove something for herself, and also get daddy's approval, even from the grave. I'm not a big lover of Catelyn. I think she made some crucial mistakes and didn't reflect on them enough, while spending a lot of time judging the actions of others. However, the only similarity she has in common with Cersei is that they are both females and have children.
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