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  1. AlaerysTargaryen

    Will Dany Resurrect?

    In the show versión (2012) she sees the Throne covered in snow or ash, doesn't get to touch it, and instead goes beyond the Wall. In that time I interpreted the scene as that she Will never get to sit on the Iron throne and her "Destiny" lies in defeating the others along with Jon Snow who is represented with his association with the Wall ( in the books she sees the blue flower in a chunk of ice= Jon). She forsakes the game of thrones as the war against the dead is the most important menace for all life. Then in 2013 George tells them how the story ends and the infamous 3 holy shit moments, the final being Jon kill Dany. D&D couldn't have known this in 2012, or 2011 when they probably wrote and filmed season 2. Daenerys in the House of the Undying feels like a woman who Will sacrifice her life dream for serving a greater purpose. She is written as the hero with heroic actions.
  2. AlaerysTargaryen

    Will Dany Resurrect?

    These past weeks I've been wondering, if D&D knew Dany would turn evil, what was on their minds when they wrote the scene which are very different in the books? I think they didn't imagined Daenerys Will end as a bad guy, efore George told them in 2013. In the show version she sees the Throne covered in snow or ash, doesn't get to touch it, and instead goes beyond the Wall. Many people are saying that her vision of Khal Drogo and her baby is a hint of the afterlife after she die s , but I remember interviews that it was a perfect opportunity to bring back Jason Momoa, whose interpretation of Drogo had captivated everyone. In that time I interpreted the scene as that she Will never get to sit on the Iron throne and her "Destiny" lies in defeating the others along with Jon Snow who is represented with his association with the Wall ( in the books she sees the blue flower in a chunk of ice= Jon). She forsakes the game of thrones as the war against the dead is the most important menace for all life. In the show we kinda got to see this, until the second Long Night became a Single Night and everyone reverted to playing politics. But coming back to my musings, D&D couldn't have known this in 2012, or 2011 when they probably wrote and filmed season 2. Daenerys in the House of the Undying feels like a woman who Will sacrifice her life dream for serving a greater purpose. She is written as the hero with heroic actions. ASOS is probably the showrunners favorite book, or at least they must have read it a lot, scene adapting the Red Wedding was what got them interested in doing the series. And in ASOS is where Dany's has the prohetic dream about fighting the Others: >>*That night she dreamt that she was Rhaegar, riding to the Trident. But she was mounted on a dragon, not a horse. When she saw the Usurper's rebel host across the river they were armored all in ice, but she bathed them in dragonfire and they melted away like dew and turned the Trident into a torrent. Some small part of her knew that she was dreaming, but another part exulted. **This is how it was meant to be**. The other was a nightmare, and I have only now awakened*. This is probably what inspired to film their version of the visions, in an ambigous non spoilery way. By that time ADWD has already come out where Daenerys Targaryen tendencies are heightened and is where she decides to forget about the fragile peace that is never stable in Meeren, and remembers that her is the path of Fire and Blood. Dragons plant no tres and all that. This is the part where many book fans have pointed out , that Dany Will begin her unraveling towards her endpoint in the series, which is being the Mad Queen. So the showrunnes either didn't care for Daenerys character progression in the last published book or didn't quite read the book and interpreted the text. In 2013 , with a season 3 already written, George tells them in 2013 she Will become evil and Will burn KL. They already had written several scenes about her violence prone state of my mind, but never developed the "madness" aspect , which book Dany was very well preocupied about it (having the taint). They leave this aspect about her 'till the very end which is why the story felt rushed and devoid of natural progression. So my theory is , that like many many fans , they never saw it coming, and after George revelation, delayed it as much as they could , which is why season 8 Danerys feels incosistent with her own persona in the previous seasons. The snippets shown to explain her madness to how she reacted to Viserys death are non important, there is no way they knew in season 1 Dany Will become the final villain. It was a bad attempt to justify the very very late turn of events. It should have been an organic progression and not a twist or their beloved subverted expectations.
  3. AlaerysTargaryen

    Will Dany Resurrect?

    Many people are saying that her vision of Khal Drogo and her baby is a hint of the afterlife after she die s , but I remember interviews that it was a perfect opportunity to bring back Jason Momoa, whose interpretation of Drogo had captivated everyone.
  4. I wish D&D could give us an interview about the third holy shit moment, which is without question that Jon kills Dany after her descent into madness or tyranny. >>And the third shocking moment? “… is from the very end…,” Benioff teased. They probably won't, not until George concludes his own story at least. But these past weeks I've been wondering, if they didn't know Dany would turn evil, what was on their minds when they wrote the scene which are very different in the books? In the show version she sees the Throne covered in snow or ash, doesn't get to touch it, and instead goes beyond the Wall. Many people are saying that her vision of Khal Drogo and her baby is a hint of the afterlife after she die s , but I remember interviews that it was a perfect opportunity to bring back Jason Momoa, whose interpretation of Drogo had captivated everyone. In that time I interpreted the scene as that she Will never get to sit on the Iron throne and her "Destiny" lies in defeating the others along with Jon Snow who is represented with his association with the Wall ( in the books she sees the blue flower in a chunk of ice= Jon). She forsakes the game of thrones as the war against the dead is the most important menace for all life. In the show we kinda got to see this, until the second Long Night became a Single Night and everyone reverted to playing politics. But coming back to my musings, D&D couldn't have known this in 2012, or 2011 when they probably wrote and filmed season 2. Daenerys in the House of the Undying feels like a woman who Will sacrifice her life dream for serving a greater purpose. She is written as the hero with heroic actions. ASOS is probably the showrunners favorite book, or at least they must have read it a lot, scene adapting the Red Wedding was what got them interested in doing the series. And in ASOS is where Dany's has the prohetic dream about fighting the Others: >>*That night she dreamt that she was Rhaegar, riding to the Trident. But she was mounted on a dragon, not a horse. When she saw the Usurper's rebel host across the river they were armored all in ice, but she bathed them in dragonfire and they melted away like dew and turned the Trident into a torrent. Some small part of her knew that she was dreaming, but another part exulted. **This is how it was meant to be**. The other was a nightmare, and I have only now awakened*. This is probably what inspired to film their version of the visions, in an ambigous non spoilery way. By that time ADWD has already come out where Daenerys Targaryen tendencies are heightened and is where she decides to forget about the fragile peace that is never stable in Meeren, and remembers that her is the path of Fire and Blood. Dragons plant no tres and all that. This is the part where many book fans have pointed out , that Dany Will begin her unraveling towards her endpoint in the series, which is being the Mad Queen. So the showrunnes either didn't care for Daenerys character progression in the last published book or didn't quite read the book and interpreted the text. In 2013 , with a season 3 already written, George tells them she Will become evil and Will burn KL. They already had written several scenes about her violence prone state of my mind, but never developed the "madness" aspect , which book Dany was very well preocupied about it (having the taint). They leave this aspect about her 'till the very end which is why the story felt rushed and devoid of natural progression. So my theory is , that like many many fans , they never saw it coming, and after George revelation, delayed it as much as they could , which is why season 8 Danerys feels incosistent with her own persona in the previous seasons. The snippets shown to explain her madness to how she reacted to Viserys death are non important, there is no way they knew in season 1 Dany Will become the final villain. It was a bad attempt to justify the very very late turn of events. It should have been an organic progression and not a twist or their beloved subverted expectations.
  5. AlaerysTargaryen

    Will Dany Resurrect?

    Here is some tinfoil for you. D&D are credited as lyricists for Pray, by Matt Bellamy, the last song in For the Throne álbum. Here are the lyrics: Zȳhys ōñoso jehikagon Āeksiot epi (We ask the Lord to shine his light) We will pray Pray with me We can bring her back Pray, remember me, oh, ooh Zȳhys perzys stepagon Āeksio Ōño jorepi (We beg the Lord to share his fire,) Se morghūltas lȳs qēlītsos sikagon (and light a candle that has gone out.) Hen sȳndrorro, ōños, hen perzys, hen ñuqīr, perzys (From darkness, light, from fire, from ashes, fire) Hen sȳndrorro, ōños, hen ñuqīr, perzys, hen morghot, glaeson (From darkness, light, from ashes, fire, from death, life) We will pray Pray with, with me We can bring her back Pray, pray Pray with me, oh, ooh Hen ñuqīr perzys, hen sȳndrorro, ōños (From ashes fire, from darkness, light) Morghot, glaeson, morghost glaeson, 'ost glaeson (Death, life, death? life, ? life) Please, please
  6. My brain was fixed in a long line of no no no no no NOOOOOOOOO Idk if it was expected, Jon Snow should have fought the Night King, I Will say it till my dying breath
  7. I never believed the Mad Queen theories because it felt too repetitive and too much like a greek tragedy. My reasons for wishing this won't come true in the book are : There's already a mad Queen, Cersei. The fact that one cannot escape genetic destiny or family legacy. Daenerys, mad as her brother and father, it's too much for my liking. Repetitive history. In Westeros, women who desire power for themselves are always regarded evil and unworthy of the crown. Visenya, may not have wanted the throne, but was regarded as spellcaster who dealt in blood and magic, and as a kinslayer. Rhaenyra, denied of her crown because of her sex, and vilified ever after as the sole responsible for the Dance of Dragons and death of so many Targaryens. And Danerys, who loses her mind, for wanting the throne , for the wrong reasons. And as a Daenerys fan, I won't have my wish fullfilled for her to end and die like a good guy , but I hope the story Will be different and devoid of the "crazy woman" aspect . If book Daenerys turns into a tyrant, prone to rage, cruel, ruthless woman who won't be able to handle her worst impulses of Fire and blood and that's her undoing , Im up for all that. Just not another tale of how the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, please.
  8. AlaerysTargaryen

    Your biggest what if?

    Lyanna still would have died of childbirth. Would he proclaim Jon as legitimate? Say Lyanna was his second wife? Does Ned survive the Trident? If not, does house Stark goes extinct if Benjen has joined the NW already? Does baby Robb survives being the son of a traitor.
  9. AlaerysTargaryen

    Your biggest what if?

    Are there any of you who imagine what would of happened if certain character didn't exist or never died, or had a completely different backgrounds? Or the most important events in the story happened in a different time period? I have always pondered about the family relationship between Ned and Catelyn and their children. Much can be said about Jon treatment by his "stepmom", which is based on her traditions, perception of the bastard stigma, culture, faith and how her marriage began. And about her marriage, this is where my" what if" presents itself. What if Catelyn married Brandon before he departed to the capital to seek answers for his sister's abduction? And what if her first child was by him? This always could've raised many differrents and very interesting possibilities IMO. > Her first child could be a girl. If it where a boy, it could technically be the Lord of Winterfell as Brandon dies almost inmediately after his father. She has a girl and for honor's sake Ned marries his brother's widow. Would they continually learned to love eachother as they did in the novel? Who knows, Catelyn always seemed to have loved Brandon very much, and having to get married with his brother after this tragedy , couldve made their pairing more difficult. > Let's say Sansa is her firstborn. The girl who could've been the Lord of Winterfell if she had been a boy , if her father hadn't died. This could be developed into the ambition that she and her mother share for her to succeed and to become a Queen , a highest position of what could've been her birthright. > Jon, her second husband's bastard. Would Catelyn treat Jon differently? Ned doesn't "betray" her as she isn't married to him yet. Or would she be more bitter about the fact that she has to be married a man who has already dishonored himself? The family dynamics would change completely I think. > The Starks sibling dynamics. I always read Sansa as very isolated towards her siblings, with Arya it is very obvious and Jon is practically non existent for her. But there isn't any intimacy with her other brothers as well. Robb, Bran, Rickon, all shared very tender love between them and it felt like their fraternal relationship was very established. I think this very self imposed "outsider" attitude and her slight sense of superiority is what made feel that Sansa didn't belong quite strongly with the rest of the Starks. What if she was their older sister? Anyhow, this is only an exercise of thought. Is there any thing you would change about asoiaf?
  10. The last two seasons of Game of Thrones feel so incongruous with eachother that it is simply obvious they didnt plan at all for season 8 when writing the script for season 7. They had several remaining George's bullet points and only 6 episodes to wrap it up and couldn't workout an organic way to conclude characters arcs and didn't come up with a way to reconcile several plot discrepancies and inconsistencies such as: 1.The issue of Daenerys infertility. Boatbaby Targaryen was foreshadowed so much in S7 with both Jon and Dany, just like Tyrion saying bells a million times in episode 5. It seemed like a given and I think a child will happen in the books as they have laid out plenty foreshadowing as well. But with only 6 episodes left and a Cersei that is still alive and pregnant in season 8, it felt redundant and they didnt found a way to include it 2. Cersei pregnancy was obviously a way to keep Jaime around when in reality he should have left her a while ago, especially after blowing up the sept of Baelor. She was supossed to miscarry in season 7 finale, as per acurrate 100% leaks. They removed the scene. Cersei continues to being pregnant in all of season 8 , as a motive of an Euron subplot , Tyrion subconcient fondness for his sister and her children, and most importantly a way to have Jaime return to her. 3. Jaime and Cersei, both super popular characters who almost make it to the end. They are going to die way much earlier in the books. D&D said they always knew they would die together, and they probably will. I firmly belief he is going to be the valonqar and will kill Cersei. Jaime killing his lover and sister in episode 5 and Jon doing the same to Dany in ep 6, doesnt feel "right" so they had Jaime dying, loving and protecting Cersei in spite of all. 4. The resolution of the Others. I think George himself hasn't figured it out how to deal with it. The night King doesnt exist in the book, and Arya killing him is a show invention. George says there are two threats coming to Westeros, fire from the east and ice from the North. Which war is going to play out first in the books is a thrilling question. Not like in the show I hope. A rushed conclution to the most important mystery and threath in the series is not what we deserved, and is a shame that the Long Night feels like an afterthought. 5. Tyrion arc. The luckiest dwarf in the world. Not much can be said about it because they never wrote him like he was in the book. Tyrion evolution into a much darker amoral character after murdering his father and his lover is inexistent. He just stops having sex and drinking too much. Where is fhe Tyrion that wanted poison for all of KL? Who hated his sister and promised her vengeance and ashes. He should have been a fervent supporter of Daenerys ' Fire and blood to the capital. George himself has said that he loves him, but he is a villain. Even Show Tyrion should have paid a price for his crimes and bad decisions. 6. The Starks. Season 7 was all about the pack survives, but in season 8 they are scattered to the winds never to see eachother again. And this is a personal opinion but Sansa ending didnt feel right to me. She makes the same mistake that she did as a young child in the first season. She betrays Ned/Jon's trust, imprinsonment and terrible things unfold, and her father and brother make a choice to abandon personal honour to defend the Stark girls lives. She gets to be the Queen she always wanted. I think there were better ways to have these event occur. 7. Brienne. Oathsex fanservice shouldn't have happened. Brienne took an oath for life to be Sansa's shield and then abandons her to be in the Kinsguard. Queensguard isn't good enough? The scene was there for her to write in the White Book, but she could have done this without this unexplained shift. Maybe she knights Podrick and leaves him in KL and as a Kingsguard, and returns North. I dont think she even shared a scene with Bran. 8. Grey Worm. This was plain dumb. If he was such a fanatic of his Queen till the very end there is no way he wouldn't have murdered the closest of her men who betrayed her and then just fucked off to Naath. There gotta be a better way to end his arc. Maybe have him "betray" Daenerys as well. He was an Unsullied who strangled his dog, who killed a baby in order to transform in a mindless soldier who killed who he was told. Daenerys liberates him and gives him a choice. Daenerys succumbs to grief when Missandei died, Grey Worm, processing her death, could've opened his eyes that Daenerys in the end became a master who told him who to kill despite their innocence or defeat. Grey Worm making his own choice at the end and saying NO to orders of murder and further war could have been a better ending. He could have rejected Daenerys and chosen peace and Naath. IDK, anything but the stupidity we saw onscreen. 9. Bran as King. This felt such an awkward surprise, without much basis on previous seasons and development of his identity as the 3ER that people are saying is probably the one thing straight from George's ending. I agree, they knew the had to keep Bran and make him a King but didnt plan for this at all. 10. Jon Snow's lack of dialogue. He is the main protagonist on par with Dany. Him being recuded to a mumbling idiot with 3-4 phrases and a few cutaway scenes is wrong. He is the hero who is the song of ice and fire and he helped defeat both, give him something more! He had wonderful dialogue and scenes before he was murdered, and it pains me that the writers couldn't come up with anything meaningful when they ran out of book material for this carácter 10. Daenerys madness. They shouldn' have rushed this. This is their biggest crime and the reason possibly delayed this to have their famous third holy shit momento.. This is her destiny in the book as well, I accept but they should have given us more hints before! Oh she burned the Tarly , wasnt it. She made several choices afterward if that were devoid of the ruthless egoism, and megalomania portrayed after. If she had more dialogue before and in Winterfell it would have prepared this turn more naturally. Tyrion speech about how we cheered and didnt see the truth in the face was a lame attempt to have a quick explantation for it. It was like hearing D&D speaking. In conclusion, the season was rushed and that is why many things felt out of nowhere for most fans. It is why it was so poorly received. A conjoint approach to both final season events, would have resulted in a better, more fluent narrative
  11. I never wouldve imagined that I would end up hating the Starks. Never. Im glad Jon left them all behind, they all pushed him in the direction of how badly things turn out.
  12. This was an echo to season 1. Jon make the same choice as Ned, he lets go of his honor for the good of his sisters. Sansa gets to be queen, what she always wanted. And in the end didnt deserve it. She broke her father and Jons thrust , and terrible things happened because of it. I like Sansa in the books but if she is going to repeat this story, thats a hard no for me.
  13. Me neither. It is why I was so outraged. This is directky from Ki Harringtom mouth: “But if you track her story all the way back, she does some terrible things. She crucifies people. She burns people alive. This has been building. So, we have to say to the audience: ‘You’re in denial about this woman as well. You knew something was wrong. You’re culpable, you cheered her on.’” JFC, she was a good person who lost her way. I always loved her and will remember her fondly for the person she set out to be. Daenerys Stormborn and not a mad queen will live in my memories of this series.
  14. AlaerysTargaryen

    the purpose of Dany's arc

    Agree 100%. Burning KL shouldve been an evil consequence she was willing to accept to "win" and defeat her enemies.
  15. One of my biggest issue with the finale was Jon Snow. As many others I was livid that after all that he went throught he is sent to the end of the world, into exile, to a loveless life. The relationship and trust with his family somewhat broken. I wished that the would've died when Drogon burns the Iron Throne. He seemed pretty suicidal after he is ressurected, and for me a life beyond the North would be a guilt ridden life with a few happy moments with his dog and Tormund. Jon was supossed to be a King, he was the prince that was promised, Azor Ahai, he was supossed to love Daenerys, he was to bring Westeros into a new age of Targaryen restoration and greatness. For me his arc was unfullfilled, R+L=J didn't matter, all that symbolism and foreshadowing gone without purpose. 24 hours later and I must admit very few hours of sleep ( Gods I loved this series) his epilogue starts to grow on me and I think George via show, delivered perfectly what he promised, a bittersweet ending, for Jon at least. He ends up in the true North with his people. They are alive because of him, their children Will grow up and live free lives becasue of Jon's actions and sacrifices. He is beloved by the wildlings , because of his actions and his duty , they chose him to live with them and to lead them when the times comes, just as they did with Mance and Tormund. And Jon himself makes a choice and leaves with them, leaving everything that has past behind. And Jon Snow arc and its conclusion I think resides in the power of choice, the power of hard choices that life makes you take. He is where he supossed to be because he always was and stayed his own person. Daenerys as many others believed in destiny and the duty she had to the greatness of this Destiny. That belief justified her choices of Fire and Blood and not in a house with a red door. In the end Jon doesn't pursue his Crown as King in the North or his leadership as Lord Commander because he was Ned Stark's bastard or his nephew , he doesn't want the Iron Throne because he was the true heir, the last Targaryen in the world with the weight of a dynasty on his shoulders. Once again, he makes his choice. HE IS Jon Snow.
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