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AnarchoPrimitiv

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    The complete destruction of the civilized world and a return to the hunter-gatherer lifeway

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  1. The World of Ice and Fire - The Reach: Oldtown Who built it? When? Why? Most maesters accept the common wisdom that declares it to be of Valyrian construction, for its massive walls and labyrinthine interiors are all of solid rock, with no hint of joins or mortar, no chisel marks of any kind, a type of construction that is seen elsewhere, most notably in the dragonroads of the Freehold of Valyria, and the Black Walls that protect the heart of Old Volantis. The dragonlords of Valryia, as is well-known, possessed the art of turning stone to liquid with dragonflame, shaping it as they would, then fusing it harder than iron, steel, or granite. If indeed this first fortress is Valyrian, it suggests that the dragonlords came to Westeros thousands of years before they carved out their outpost on Dragonstone, long before the coming of the Andals, or even the First Men. If so, did they come seeking trade? Were they slavers, mayhaps seeking after giants? Did they seek to learn the magic of the children of the forest, with their greenseers and their weirwoods? Or was there some darker purpose? Such questions abound even to this day. Before the Doom of Valyria, maesters and archmaesters oft traveled to the Freehold in search of answers, but none were ever found. Septon Barth's claim that the Valyrians came to Westeros because their priests prophesied that the Doom of Man would come out of the land beyond the narrow sea can safely be dismissed as nonsense, as can many of Barth's queerer beliefs and suppositions. This specific passage from the book has been mentioned in a previous post from a few years ago among several other statements from Barth and while the resulting discussion dissected these statements, nearly all of it ignored the one which I specify as the subject of this post. I'm interested to know if anyone has some thoughts on this passage; is it just something said in passing with a "wink" by the collaborative authors of this book, or is it more important than that? If it is more important, then a plethora of implications may be deduced....is it possible that the Valyrians (perhaps a clandestined, niche cult held the belief?) foresaw the [re]emergence of the Others? Did any of those with Valyrian blood such as the Targaryens (of consequence to the story at large; e.g. Rhaegar, Jaehaerys II Targaryen and/or his married children Rhaella and Aerys), know of this prophecy and could it have possibly influenced or motivated any of their actions? Again, part of me wants to believe it was just meant as an inconsequential wink and nod to the reader, but I still hope otherwise.
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