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  1. Aegon VII

    Rhaegar Targaryen

    While rhaegar=aa is an old theory (and one I subscribe to), I think you’ve made a nice observation that the snow in the fire could be his ashes
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    Poll: Is Sweetrobin the Son of Littlefinger?

    Yes. Littlefinger’s symbol being the mockingbird is as good as proof
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    Is x character a psychopath?

    Based on the way he talks about his son being killed by Ramsay I would say psycho
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    Is x character a psychopath?

    I think the most important thing is understanding that it’s nuanced. I agree with the quote you provided as a general litmus test. The technical (medical) definition of the term psychopath really had to pivot due to its use in criminal proceedings, so I just hate it when people try to take one super specific definition and say it’s the only interpretation of the terms psychopath and sociopath. You can see a huge argument I had on it in the comments of my big walder analysis previously linked.
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    Is x character a psychopath?

    Thank you! Let’s look at your goat example. What part of this scene suggests empathy? Big Walder followed him into the stables, leading his own mount. Reek stole a look at him as he removed Blood’s bit. “Who was he?” he said softly, so the other stablehands would not hear. “No one.” Big Walder pulled the saddle off his grey. “An old man we met on the road, is all. He was driving an old nanny goat and four kids.” “His lordship slew him for his goats?” “His lordship slew him for calling him Lord Snow. The goats were good, though. We milked the mother and roasted up the kids.” Lord Snow. Reek nodded, his chains clinking as he wrestled with Blood's saddle straps. By any name, Ramsay' s no man to be around when he is in a rage. Or when he' s not. "Did you find your cousins, my lord?" "No. I never thought we would. They're dead. Lord Wyman had them killed. That's what I would have done if I was him."
  6. Lol, I have no interest in arguing that. And quite frankly, I would say a very negligible amount of people would argue that part of their vow is being with the king 100% of the time. Can you list five threads in which this is ops theory? You’re saying your killing a theory that almost no one holds true, that’s why I call you full of yourself. Sure, no one argues that kingsguard must be with king 100% of time. (For a mind numbingly simple example, we know kg cant travel on dragons, which funny enough is the example you give from fire and blood). The theory is that since the kingsguard guards the royal family, the fact that they were guarding Jon and lyanna supports Jon and lyanna being royalty. You’ve killed nothing, you just morphed a theory, that kg would be with lyanna and Jon because they were fulfilling their duty to protect the royal family, and you’ve changed it to kg MUST be with royal family at all times, no exceptions in order to be easy to disprove. So the theory stands exactly as it did before your thread, I.e. the kg being at toj supports lyanna and Jon being royalty.
  7. They are climate change. Dragons are nukes. Is one more good/evil than the other?
  8. Lol, killing a theory for good... I think you may be a little full of yourself
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    Is x character a psychopath?

    Big walder. I wrote a bit on it https://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/144657-big-walder-analysis/
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    Dany's dream about the Trident

    Especially if the usurper this time around is stannis, as nights king 2.0
  11. I really think you are mistaken in saying Arya gets emotional. Simply remembering the one person in your family who likes songs when a song is played does not suggest Arya was having an emotional reaction to the song. If anything it suggests she was bored. Here’s the quote again, “So the singer played for her, so soft and sad that Arya only heard snatches of the words, though the tune was half-familiar. Sansa would know it, I bet. Her sister had known all the songs, and she could even play a little, and sing so sweetly. All I could ever do was shout the words.” The reason she can’t hear words isn’t because it’s sad, it’s becuase he’s playing soft.. we know from another story that Sansa loved singers so it is natural Arya would think of her. Seriously, there is nothing here that suggest Arya was moved emotionally. If she sniffled, or made any comment/thought that showed emotion then maybe, but no. There is 100% absolutely nothing here emotional, just an objective memory. youre basing your theory off lyanna and Arya having had the same reactions, but they didn’t at all. The parallel is the song, not how the stark girl reacts to it. Tom and rhaegar are opposites, as shown by Ned’s comment about brothels. and if lyanna was in love with Dayne there would be textual evidence for it elsewhere, like the overwhelming evidence there is for r+l=j. Arthur is qhorin, Ashara is quaithe
  12. I think your missing the point then, it shows she was moved by rhaegar. Umm, no we don’t, Arya comments that it’s a sad song, in no way does she suggest it moves her or brings her close to tears(sniffling). You’ve based most of your argument on comparing these two scenes when Martin really didn’t make an effort to parallel them. Perhaps the reason Arya wasn’t moved by toms rendition is because he’s full of shit, and the fact that lyanna was moved contrasts the two scenes. I’m a believer that there is a very good chance that the song played by rhaegar that night was the exact same song Tom played, Jenny’s song. Yet lyanna was moved enough to sniffle while Arya can watch and comment without emotion. The difference is the singer, suggesting that rhaegar and Tom are opposites, not the same. No, she is unmoved by the song, and simply thinks about what it reminds her of, hearing singers before with her family and how she would just shout the words. This is in contrast to lyanna being moved by rhaegar. Nothing in her commentary suggests the song made her sad... again, this is a contrast to rhaegar and lyanna The comparison to aryas situation isn’t valid, we’re talking about wildling/old God’s marriage. Rhaegar abducted lyanna which can fulfills the marriage. You’re arguing she didn’t love him, but we know from the quote I provided that if a northern girl is mistreated by the guy who abducts her, she can kill him. Lyanna has a reputation as being wild, therefore we can assume if she was truly taken against her will and wasn’t happy, she’d murder rhaegar. Completely different than Arya being a hostage of people treating her just fine with a good chance of freedom ahead of her. So we’re in agreement, I would just extend it to “if lyanna didn’t want to be with rhaegar she would kill him/escape” also everything we know about rhaegar suggests he wouldn’t abduct her against her will. Let me rephrase that for you, a targaryan (Jon/Rhaegar) abducts a wild northern girl (Ygritte/lyanna), they fall madly in love but have to separate tragically due to the politics of their world. Again you’re connecting non-existent dots. If it’s a parallel than who’s hr Ygritte in the second sentence? Did lyanna love a rebel kings warrior follower? Who would that be, one of Roberts followers? also Jon does start to like/love mance. He kills mance(rattleshirt) with the arrow out mercy, protects his kin Val, and aemon steelsong. Jon never really has a bad thought about mance after meeting him. I hope you see now that you’ve made false parallels between these two scenes. Arya was not moved by the sad song. And this is the ridiculous kind of conclusion you get when you connect dots that don’t exist, That lyanna had a secret love who was a “ wannabe rebel king's warrior follower”. I believe instead of comparing Arya falling in love with Tom to lyanna falling in love with rhaegar, instead this scene exists to give insight into where rhaegar was getting his prophecies from. The parallel is that Tom/ rhaegar play Jenny’s song to the gohh for visions. Rhaegar would play this sad soft song for the gohh and she would give prophecies just as Arya saw Tom do. Cantuse’s does an excellent job covering it in https://cantuse.wordpress.com/2014/08/25/composer-of-prophecy-rhaegars-song-of-love-and-doom/
  13. I believe you’re too confident in that conclusion. Maybe it would have ended badly, but maybe Robert would have been a better man because lyanna demanded it, and they both fall in love. Robert was a good enough man to be Ned starks best friend, and he loved her. There’s a chance he would have been a good husband and over time lyanna would love him back. We’ll never know, but I stand by my statement that if they were happily married, he’d be a better man. If they weren’t happily married, Robert would be dead or abandoned.
  14. Roberts wife definitely had an effect on him. If lyanna was happily married to him, he’d be a better man and king
  15. I disagree. Lyanna’s Sniffling at rhaegars song supports them falling in love. More so though, Lyanna was wild. She chased off three squires at swordpoint and won tohh. If she didn’t want to be with rhaegar she would have killed him. “What if he was stronger than you, and liked to beat you bloody?” “I’d cut his throat while he slept. You know nothing, Jon Snow.” ... “A man can own a woman or a man can own a knife,” Ygritte told him, “but no man can own both. Every little girl learns that from her mother.”
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