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  1. Aerys humiliated tywin several times. Given what we know about tywin is it really that strange that he ploted several schemes against aerys as revenge? He might not have tried to kill aerys several times, but he certainly tried to undermine him in some ways... we have the famous quote about rickard Southern ambitions (which in this case would be to make lyanna queen). The rest is just trying to analise what happened in the beguining of the rebelion… And what I wrote makes more sense that aerys suddenly starting killing his most important lords without reason and spare the life of brandon's squire. It is really hard to explain why aerys and his advisors would order jon arryn to kill ned and robert if they didn t have a strong reason to do it… And aerys could have told his version of the events to the realm. The problem is that people probably believe more in jon arryn's version and once they won the war what they said became truth. So rhaegar runs with robert's bride and aerys decides to kill robert? How are people suposed to accept that he killed the lord of the stormlands for that? It is madness! And while aerys was paranoid was he this mad? Hell, he thinks tywin wants to kill him and he lets him live but he kills robert without him doing anything? I agree that from ned's pov it is hard to explain how robert would turn against the targs, however it is also strange how robert went from loyal subject to targ exterminator… I could understand if he wanted to kill rhaegar, his kids and aerys. But why would he want to kill rhaella and viserys? For someone that didn t want to be king he became used to killing a lot of inocent targs to keep his position pretty fast. Brandon wanted to kill rhaegar. Is it so strange that aerys would name him a traitor and kill him? However, at this time aerys simply imprisioned him… it seems a pretty moderate reaction for a madman that after a while will want to kill 4 important lords (3 of them without reason!)
  2. I don t think que can judge what happened between rhaegar and lyanna. We don t know what happened and several scenarios fit with what we know. Then as the lords swore fealty to aerys they recognize him as the rightfull ruller. If they disagreed they shouldn t have sworn oaths... And even if aerys was bad at his job did he give reason to the high lords to forsworn their vows? shouldn t they have joined to make aerys abdicate the throne to rhaegar or viserys (with a regent)? what right did they have to depose of all targs? From what we know of ned how hipocritical would he need to be to rebel because the king killed his familly because they wanted to rebel? However I don t remeber ned ever saying he fought a war to avenge his familly but I am probably wrong (I remember him saying he fought to save lyanna and nothing else)
  3. If rickard and brandon were conspiring against aerys he had the right to punish them. And that talk about the fair trial is kind of weird. If some nobles plan to kill the king given aerys personality and personal history what was he suposed to do? Hells how many fair trials have we seen in asoiaf? Is it really so strange that aerys had a mock trial for people conspiring against him. Then given that robert was their supposed new king and ned was not only a grown up stark but robert's best friend it makes sense that aerys would demand their heads. Was aerys brutal? YES. Was he within his rights? yes!
  4. As we all know history is written by the winners and aerys was a perfect scapegoat to justify their actions. I am not denying that aerys was a bad person or that he had some mental problems. But the truth is that all his paranoia was justified. We know that some strange marriages were being planned through westeros, that he had allienated tywin so it is possible that he ploted against aerys some time during his reign, it is believed that rhaegar tried to depose him, not to mention what happened at dukensdale… It is hard to criticize a king being paranoid taking into account all that was happening… Now moving along to the rebelion. We don t know what happened between rhaegar and lyanna neither why they disapeared (as long as we know) for some months. What we do know is that brandon apeared in KL wanting to kill rhaegar. So aerys actions in imprisioning him makes perfect sense. The problem is what happens next... So if instead of assuming that aerys and his advisers were supercrazy and murdered 2 starks (1 of them without reason) and then ordered jon arryn to kill 2 men he considered as sons without good reason and expected him to obey what if we try to justify his actions. Lets take a leap and assume the north and the vale were indeed conspiring to put robert on the throne. So Brandon as the heir would know about the plot and might even talked about it with his closest friends (some of them went with him to KL obviously). So after being imprisioned and threatened with death some of brandon's companions might have tried to bargain their freedom by telling the king about the northern plot. Giving that everybody else ended up dead it would make sense if it was brandon's squire that talked and ended up surviving because of that... So getting back to the story. After hearing about the conspiracy aerys naturally called the northern lords that he knew were involved (their fathers) and killed them how he saw fit. Afterwards, like he was paranoid he would want to kill robert (the supposed new king) and ned (robert's best friend and old enough to know what his familly was scheming). Then given the relation between jon arryn and these 2 it would make sense that some people wold think that he also was a traitor but could aerys kill jon arryn without any proof? Has aerys ever killed a lord as important as jon arryn without reason? (he even imprisoned brandon instead of simply killing him)… So what if he sent jon arryn to kill ned and robert in order to show his loalty to his king and that he wasn t part of the plot to depose him? And here jon starts telling his version of history. That the king was mad and paranoid and had no reason to do what he did… And given the fact that aerys wasn t liked and was cruel and slightly paranoid who would believe the king over jon arryn and his supporters? And if aerys had already killed a lot of the people that already knew about the conspiracy it was even better. And the interesting thing is that jon arryn didn t even need to be part of the northern conspiracy. As long as jon didn t believe aerys when he told him that the starks were traitors he would act as he did (and given aerys personality who would blame him for not believing in him?). My biggest (and maybe only) problem with all this is that any conspiracy (with or without jon arryn) would always need to convince robert to rebel against the targs...
  5. divica

    Elseworlds -- Arrowverse crossover

    Since season 4 when laurel died that people have been saying it should have been felicity. I am sorry but she is like a cockroach that just doesn t go away. And while supergirl has a mitology that can set her apart from superman I simply can t understand why someone would want to make a show about batwoman instead of Batman… That I simply just can t understand. If we are lucky fox might have a spin off of their series gotham but I doubt it.
  6. divica

    "various book deadlines"

    More than that. By the time FaB2 is published we will have more 1 or 2 D&E and TWoW. Which means we will have a lot of the information of what happens in the last 90 years of targ rule. I doubt grrm will write in dept about someting we already know. So given that what we will miss is the end of egg's reign or details about aerys and rhaegar I am almost sure that grrm will want to write about it in D&E and asoiaf instead of seriously spoiling it in FaB2.
  7. I think it is quite hard to see the point of daenerys story since the end of the first book. Would it be very diferent if she had retained control of thousands of dothriaki and then decided to get some unsullied before invading westeros? Because we all know she will return to westeros and probably in a short period of time (there aren t many more books left). And unless the fire priests convince all of essos to bow to her or adopt her ideals whatever she has done in essos will be undone pretty fast once she is gone... in a month or so he can anounce he will have a co writer for the last book lol, But seriouslly, he is old and rich. I don t see any reason for him to not accept help in order to finish his master piece and give him the freedom to do what he really wants to do. Write asoiaf side stories and be involved in tv projects.
  8. divica

    Elseworlds -- Arrowverse crossover

    after the second ep I feel like this crossover is a bit of a let down compared with the others. We don t have a big bad they are fighting nor really a crisis. It is mostly about oliver and barry having a body swap and the whole situation is actually funny instead of having the sense of a great crisis that we had in the previous crossovers. Is this really the only crossover of the 3 shows this year?
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    "various book deadlines"

    I might be wrong, but I think george has several D&E stories on an "advanced stage". Besides the rumours about what event each book will focus on in AdwD and feast we had snipets of information about egg (the conversation about aemon and egg about being king and aemon dreams and bran's vision about a possible romance for duncan) that should be related to what will happen in the books. And if ADoS in really the final book as long as george kills some pov characters in winds it should be easier to write that the last books. I mean, he would have all characters in westeros and they all have a comon objective (fighting the dead).
  10. divica

    Elseworlds -- Arrowverse crossover

    I would say that around 25 min of the ep were completly hilarious until oliver has his melt down and starts screaming at barry. And I really reeeeeaalllyyy mean hilarious! the rest of the ep was the usual and I would love if we had Batman instead of batwoman today because the character means basically nothing to me. And after Gotham I don t even understand why they would create another show on the bat mithology that isn t about Batman.
  11. divica

    The Citadel

    Ok. And what company did he form?
  12. divica

    The Citadel

    The shade of the evening gives visions. It isn t related to his powers. And inside those visions besides some kraken simbolism that can either mean he will use a kraken or be involved in several events (therefore the tentacles) we only know that he will somehow seat on the IT. So far the magical abilities we have seen is euron possibly sumoning favorable winds. I think he bypassed the westerlands because he wanted to atract the redwyne fleet. what better way to do it than attacking those islands in the reach? And I completly agree. After the fleet is destroyed he can raid however he wants. however raiding someplace like oldtown that has so many people seems rather dificult. If he wants riches the westerlands at the moment sound much better. Who will even defend them? On the other hand I completly disagree about faegon opening up the possibility of attacking oldtown. People already know about the danger and it is a place too important in westeros to not be defended. So if the locals can t handle euron I think it is even possible that fAegon will go to oldtown and defend it in order to be seen as a hero of the people and the faith. In adition, if marg is found guilty then the tyrells will return to the reach and it becomes defensable once again. So the longer euron remains near oldtown the less chances he has of conquering it. However if he decides to raid the westerlands nobody will be interested in him besides the lannistes that are spread and spent.
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    The Citadel

    While I agree that the redwynes will be attacking euron with everything they have the people in oldtown aren t the redwynes… And my numbers come from remembering Reading somewhere that euron started with 20 to 30K iron islanders and then that there was an army in oldtown, it is the house of the hightowers (a powerfull familly in the reach) and that the guy in charge of the defense wanted to build boats to attack euron (this is what I remember). So there must be several thousand men defending oldtown besides the people that live there that can be used in case of emergency. It can be a distraction from several things. We don t know what the fm wants to do in the citadel. We don t know if he will need a distraction to escape from there… Don t Forget that the fm aren t perfect. We have seen one of them in KL prison ( if you don t buy crazy fanfics then you must admit he was sent to prison because of a mistake). Besides, euron clearly wants to attract the redwyne fleet and destroy it. The only question is what he will do about oldtown afterwards. How do you know that killing balon cost a dragon egg? As far as we know the egg might have paid for several jobs from the FM. No ofense, but we are told that a egg can be used to buy an army so wouldn t euron be better served buying an army with the egg and plotting balon's death another way? If euron does have magic and with his loots he should be able to find another way to kill balon… And he would have an extra army! And as I already said above, the distraction is so that the fm can escape. The dude must have learned it from somewhere or left notes about how to use the candles. There is nothing stoping sam from finding them… The candles just seem like a perfect way to send mensages and sam seems like a guy that will discover 1 or 2 secrets that might be too dangerous to write in a letter... And I am pretty sure I have read that oberin might have been part of the brave companions in several places. And the part about obara wanting to destroy oldtown and some brave companions going there is in the text (I just read it in the fire and ice wiki trying to remeber info about what is happening in oldtown).
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    The Citadel

    We don t really know what magical abilities euron has. It is kind of hard to talk about how usefull they would be in the battle against oldtown. However euron won t be waiting for dragons… First, the dragons are months away from where he is so it would be weird for him to stay put so long. Second, I think Euron knows that if victarion claims a dragon he would use it to kill him and if the horn doesn t work then no dragon is coming to euron. So if you want to speculate what euron will do if he doesn t want to attack oldtown I think his best target is the westerlands. The lannister army is basically spent and they will be more preocupied with Aegon than their lands...
  15. divica

    The Prophecy Glitch

    Oh I forgot. While I find the simbolism within the story interesting when people start making references like I kind of turn off. I mean, I am Reading a fantasy story… Not studing some literary masterpiece for school where I am trying to find relations to other masterpieces that show some language skill the author wanted to use… Honestly, I think those kind of paralelisms are kind of fantasies and while they have their own insteresting aspects they are rather useless
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