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  1. Lol center right leaning posters in here proving just how out of touch and useless their political leanings are. They want people to compromise with bigots. Sounds bout white.
  2. Just follow the law and let the cops do their jobs even if they are white supremacists or fucking white supremacists and dating them!
  3. http://thehill.com/homenews/media/401515-presidential-historian-there-are-an-extraordinary-number-of-people-who-will Nah, they're all bigots and they are a cult.
  4. If you don't want to be called a racist, don't vote for one and continue to support one that continues to show he is one. Simple as that.
  5. https://www.vox.com/2017/8/25/16189064/antifa-charlottesville-dc-unite-the-right-mark-bray The case of Nazism is obviously one of those intractable historical problems for advocates of pacifism. Even the school of strategic nonviolence that puts aside the ethical questions in favor of the strategic questions still fails, in my view, to show how nonviolence might have worked in that situation. But look, anti-fascists will concede that most of the time nonviolence is certainly the way to go. Most antifa members believe it’s far easier to use nonviolent methods than it is to show up and use direct action methods. But they argue that history shows that it’s dangerous to take violence and self-defense off the table.
  6. Trump apparently called Nepal nipple and Bhutan button. No doubt he misprounounced Niger as well, so he's full of shit he never said the N - word even if we were to take him not being a racist seriously.
  7. If you value your own wallet over civil rights of people, then you're a selfish individual complicit in bigotry. Trump is a bigot. He is racist, misogynistic, ableist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-semetic etc. If you support him just because of the economy, he has had nothing to do with this supposedly "good" economy, then you're a pretty horrible person.
  8. So you're saying that white supremacy and nazism have a legitimate point that should be heard. That's disgusting. This is peak fence sitting. Sarcastically saying that all opinions deserve to be heard, even ones that are bigoted, oppressive and genocidal.
  9. I wasn't dodging anything. I was responding to a question I find to be disingenuous since it's implying that giving nazis a platform through interviews is the same and reporting the news. I have issues with NPRs white washing on some articles, specifically in the headlines sometimes, but i have no issue with them reporting on white supremacists if they don't fall victim to liberal white washing of their ideology and what they did during the interview. I don't trust them not to fuck you again. they shouldnt be interviewing white supremacists, their position is irrational and doesn't deserve to be heard and legitamized.
  10. Giving white supremacists a platform through an interview is not reporting the news.
  11. If Nazis are willing and eager to appear on your radio show, you're doing something wrong, and they're not scared of you or your liberal arts undergrad 'rational probing'. What a shocker, a white moderate thinks fence sitting news organizations that give neo nazis a platform are doing the right thing, even though NPR severly fucked up letting that sack of shit have an interview with them. And a weak one that did not challenge him at all. They weren't reporting the news or facts. They let a white surepmacist that has blood on his hands have a platform to spew his neo nazi propaganda. Stop being an apologist for their bullshit and gigantic fuck up here. Did those hacks at NPR ask him about why he called Heather Heyer a fat communnist who got what was coming to her? Oh wait, they didnt. That would require a spine, something moderates in the media severly lack. Instead during the interview she interrupted him a couple of times to inform him, politely, that, sir, with all due respect (because a nazi totally desrves that yea?), white people are not being oppressed and the academic establishment does not like Charles Murray (a racist he was citing). That is utterly useless against white supremacists like him. NPR made the same mistake liberals make when dealing with fascism. Mainly the whole, "yes we gave them a platform to spew their dogma BUT, we made pedantic debate team arguments 'debunking' them, so its all good." These fascists don't care about scoring logical rhetorical points, their perspective audience doesn't care either. They are interested in PROPAGANDA which relies on emotionally appealing narratives to curry favor with a mass audience. One person being recruited to their side and agreeing with them is a huge win for them. I posted an article that shows 11 million americans agree with the view this fuck has. Letting these people have a platform, and in such a way NPR gave them one, is a gigantic mistake and highly fucking dangerous. If you want to "debunk" fascists, you need make them say out loud what the implications of their beliefs are. Don't make the mistake of believing their worldview is the result of an earnest attempt to rationally explain the world. The arguments of racists/fascists are absurd and irrational, but they don't exist to stand up to scientific/journalistic scrutiny, they exist to rationalize massive state violence, ethnic cleansing, wars of aggression, slavery, and genocide. You can't counter the efficacy of their propaganda if you don't force the propagandist to make a connection between the (faulty) ideology and the policy the ideology exists to justify. He had the interview basically pull the liberal foil to "well, ackshully" to all his bullshit. It enhances the appeal of fascist propaganda. going on NPR because not it becomes a the crowning achievement for this sack of shit, regardless of how objectively he was humiliated or proven wrong. It also gives him, and his views legitmacy. That then makes the marginalized that he wants to kill have to fight and say why that is a horrible idea. Liberal journalists are seriously a bunch of deluded fools that believe they can dismantle fascism by giving it equal footing on a national platform, introducing it to a larger audience than it's ever seen, and granting it legitimacy by politely debating it. That's the equivalent of giving a person with a history of shooting people in the back, a loaded gun and immediately turning your back on them to start walking the traditional 10 steps before a formal duel. Nazis like Kesler dont deserve level heads, they deserve their heads to be leveled. Evergreen Sartre quote: Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. You need to watch this.
  12. I have no doubt that genocide will be legal at some point here in the US, and it will not doubt be in response to some distorted threat that blames the victims, legally, for what happened while also invoking jingoistic values. It will be voted on and executed by a bunch of individuals that love their families, pray to their god, are said to be nice to their neighbors, stand for the national anthem, give to charity, and are said to have this good side if you could only just see "the nuance of their position." The killings will be carried out by people who were just doing their jobs by following orders and it will be supported by constituents who felt their lives were threatened. The planners, the killers, and the supporters will be humanized as much as possible to the point of white washing them and their actions. It has happened before and it's currently in motion now. This is how it will happen if it gets worse. That's how it works. It will be the ultimate expression of "outsource risk" to have the state engage in violence in a top down way. No one can be blamed because the culpability spreads around to the point that even the people that are trying to stop it by standing in the way saying "Fuck off, don't do this" are demonized successfully because they hate those that are carrying out the genocide, and in doing so, they are are said to be breaking the law and said to be the real fascists that hate the country and that they just don't see the nuance. Calls for genocide and ethnic cleansing are fundamentally and utterly uncivil, even if ethnic cleansing and genocide are labeled as peaceful and the calls for it are delivered calmly in interviews with the mainstream media by white guys in suits that insist they are being rational and peaceful. Not challenging them, and giving them platforms and not challenging them is complicity.
  13. Keith Ellison is acused of domestic violence, and it seems pretty credible. He can fuck off.
  14. If you're willingly giving white supremacists platforms to spew from while not challenging them, you certainly are being complicit. You moderates do nothing of value and are utterly worthless to combat what is going right on. Moderate politics is why there are kids in concentration camps right now being sexually assaulted, drugged and tortured while some of their parents are killing themselves because they have no clue when they are getting out to get to their kids. And can't forget how some of the women that are pregnant in there are giving birth to still borns. But please, keep mocking people that are about direct action and aren't about worthless and undeserved civility torwards a bunch of abusive white supremacists or about giving those same bigots a platform to preach from in an unchallenged manner. White moderates are a fucking disease and are the biggest enablers of bigotry in this country.
  15. NPR gave one of those fucking scumbags that organized last years Unite the Right Rally and This Years in DC a fucking platform to spew his bigoted bullshit from, and their spineless asses, not moderate, but spineless, did nothing to challange him. So yea, if being a moderate means spineless little shit that willingly gives a neo nazi a platform to spew from, then yes, I am going to give them a ton of shit for it because that shit that they did right there is apart of the fucking problem and helping to normalize them. Being a moderate right now is counter productive and utterly fucking useless and is a real privelleged position to hold when we have fucking neo nazis running for office, loving Trump's rhetoric, killing people, and marching in every city in the US. Fuck NPR for that interview, fuck NBC, CBS, CNBC, CNN, WaPo, NYT, LAT, and any other media outlet that gives them platforms and fluff piece articles and treats their genocidal opinions like it's normal while not challenging them, but instead sitting their and letting them just spew their bigoted side of the story.
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