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    Bakker LIII - Sranc and File

    I am really curious about this part. Saw more threads about the head, but nobody seems to mention this: "pits that eternity had rendered Holy". Does this mean anything? or is it a throwaway line ?
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    Bakker LIII - Sranc and File

    saw an interesting thread on reddit. It was probably discussed here, but still, it's a cool idea. "So he seizes the lake and the thousand babes and the void and the massing-descending Sons and the lamentations-that-are-honey, and he rips them about the pole, transforms here into here, this-place-inside-where-you-sit now, where he has always hidden, always watched, where Other Sons, recline, drinking from bowls that are skies, savouring the moaning broth of the Countless, bloating for the sake of bloat, slaking hungers like chasms, pits that eternity had rendered Holy" here he goes from hell to heaven. The "other sons" may be the gods or the opposite of ciprang. What is interesting is the "pits that eternity has rendered Holy". Does this mean that in the Outside the Gods (or heaven) is eternal while hell and the ciprang are not? Do the eternal gods make heaven "holy" or does the place make the Ciprang that gather there somehow different than the others? Any consensus on Head on the Pole chapter?
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    Bakker LIII - Sranc and File

    Did he say anything about TUC ? His thoughts, sales, reception, future etc
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    Bakker LIII - Sranc and File

    "IIRC @lokisnowdid a pretty good season breakdown by episode and I think he even broke the pilot down into scenes." Where can I find this? anyone know? would be cool to read
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    Bakker LII: Ol' Golgotterath Blues

    I forgot, Did mimara see the no god with the eye? I know she saw trough the ilusion
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    Bakker LII: Ol' Golgotterath Blues

    Twisted love is still love
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    Bakker LII: Ol' Golgotterath Blues

    The MEAT has affected this board, resist! Or the mods will need to cleanse us all! I wonder how the books could be improved. I for one would have loved more maithanet, maybe give him a role in TNG. Didn't really understand what Esmis whole plot was about honestly... way worse that the cannibal holocaust. As a side note, could the WLW function in the Ark ? Could yatwer "give a command" to follow kellhus and kill him ? (To sorweel) Since ajokli manifested there, curious how he percieved the ark...
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    Bakker LII: Ol' Golgotterath Blues

    Theres 3 things people always forget: 1)his "original" vision ended with TUC, the one from 20+ years ago. HOWEVER it was known for at least 7-8+ years that another series will come after. Blaming Bakker on an incomplete story is bullshit. He surely has some plans for whats to come and he edited TUC with this in mind 2)Bakker was always an inconsistent writer. The first trilogy has plenty of flaws and its all over the place. The GCO is only a manifestation of that. People always ignore the bad stuff and just move on, I don"t understand why this is discussed so much...It's Bakker as usual. 3)the majority of the enjoyment comes from the reader, not bakker. Figuring out what it all means, theories, interpretations etc is what made(and makes)Bakker great.
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    Bakker LII: Ol' Golgotterath Blues

    Can we read the original draft anywhere ? Or did anyone make a list of differences between the two ?
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    Bakker LII: Ol' Golgotterath Blues

    some Kellhus POV chapters would have made the "he was wrong and being deceived" theme much more impactful. It would have also given some structure to the story, giving us some insight on how he views past events and also how he prepares for the future. Most importantly though...we had to journey with him. He was in many ways the most interesting(at least indirectly) character in the first series, he was the "prime mover". Without him, nothing would have happened... He serves the same functions as in the first series, but without the personal touch. Seeing Kellhus figure out stuff, stumble, plan and take on the "worldborn" was great! In my view at least, that is the single biggest disappointment in the aspect emperor, the lack of that emperor.
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    Bakker LII: Ol' Golgotterath Blues

    It's interesting in a way. All the while they wanted to become like Sranc ,skinspies or Basrag. I wonder how a souless trained dunayn would work. Is kellhus greater than most of them because he has the least ammount of "soul" ? As a die note, there's on thing that really dissapointed my in retrospect. We get a lot about Sranc,they are scary and a crazy version of orcs, we get non-man and so on, a lot of original and interesting species. What we don't get enough of is: the bashrag. How do they think? what's up with them? Are they also "great lovers" like the others? In my imagination they are the most "foggy"...
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    Bakker LII: Ol' Golgotterath Blues

    One thing that bothered me is how Kellhus wanted to take on the gods. Didn't he know that it's impossible to be a self moving soul? so it's impossible for him to deal with "timeless" gods? Without kellmomas he would have died in that building in momemm. He couldn't defend himself against their power. He was as helpless as anyone else... Is Bakker making a point about his arrogance? Or is there more here ?
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    Bakker LII: Ol' Golgotterath Blues

    What about the first no god ? How was his creation possible ? From what we know, little kell is unique
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    Bakker LII: Ol' Golgotterath Blues

    I have been reading the threads, since the books release. Maybe I missed this. As for the AMA, I know a lot of people where pissed off, me too... however he also made it a point that giving your own interpretation is a good thing. Still, The effects on this thread where quite disasterous, seems soon it will be dead
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    Bakker LII: Ol' Golgotterath Blues

    How do we know that he was unaware of the possesion ? He says the golden room is conditioned ground. He also becomes more worried as he approaches a topos, the place wierd shit happens. Kinda funny seeing you accuse others of "projecting" in this thread, considering crazy theories and discussion in one of the main reason people come here... What I wrote might not be what bakker intended, but it is supported by the text. Blame him for not being clear enough, not me for trying to understanding it...
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