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  1. or, hopefully, for once, a bloat thread in the story gets smushed quite quickly
  2. They could have combined the Alys Karstark plot to the Ramsay plot and had a compelling story of Karstarks getting pissy, and Ramsay's misdeeds coming home to roost. But they wanted to script Sophie Turner getting raped and jack off to it and Sophie wanted to be a big girl
  3. Or Arya dies in the open, her plotshields failing her without the camera following here
  4. No. The very fact that they have all the resources they do and chose to make several giant rivers of "YAAAAS SLAY QUEEN" fecal runoff makes it all the more unforgivable. They could have stopped at season 7, did a timeskip and then a sequel series. They could have done something other than "WHORES AND WHORE SPAWN COUP A KANG DUMB" with Dorne. They could have, and should have, crapped all over "Battle of the Bastards and Cleganebowl". Its been crap since season 5, it just took normie scum this long to understand that. EDIT: There was nothing preventing the Vale from breaking off as well, or Dorne. Dorne had been apart in fact since Aerys died, the Vale since Jon Arryn died. The North was a ruined and STILL couldn't be held by foreign conquerors, not during winter. The entire idea, in the show, of the seven kingdoms, or six, remaining a united political unit is a farce
  5. I just realized something. Old Town is still intact, and there is nothing preventing the Faith of the Seven from reviving its militant orders. And they still have the Maesters spying on everyone and poisoning away all potential problems and putting propaganda directly into the minds of young nobles. Looks like the Faith wins, by outlasting everyone, and Old Town will come to dominate Westeros again, and this time there won't even be strong regional monarchs/paramounts to oppose them. The only large scale military that will exist will be the Faith's, and they will probably re-introduce Lord's Right to First Night to puff up the number of bastards and surplus males. I guess the lesson here is, if you war against a religion and endeavor to de-fang it that isn't good enough, because that religion will just outlast you.
  6. So? Fuck em. Fuck Westeros too, why should a bunch of beggars make her care anymore than the beggars she already has? The Reach has manpower to spare, enough to fight off the Ironborn, continue operations in the Crownlands until its stabilized, and enough to go slap fAegon stupid. They have lost effectively nothing so far.
  7. 1. Who gives a shit, let him dick around in Westeros and get his shit slapped by the overwhelming weight of the Reach. Which has manpower to spare. 2. Euron? Currently pillaging the Reach. Why should Dany care? 3. Again, so the fuck what? The Others don't have to attack or do anything south of the Wall. They can, and would have in the show had D a D not been masturbated on the floor and calling that a script, wait for Winter to hit and last for ten years or longer. Why would the Others be in a rush? They can let another Long Winter or Long Night do most of their work for them. Why should Dany care? Why would she care when she has an entire continent to play with and an entire continent to liberate from slavery? Westeros is the obsession of the Westerosi men who have followed her, meanwhile, she is building her own kingdom and her own empire with her own followers, she has no need to reclaim an indebted thrown of squabbling kingdoms. She was born in the Narrow Sea, spent all her childhood in the Free Cities, became a woman on the Dothraki Sea, and became a sovereign in Old Ghis. She is closer to her homeland than any Targaryen has been in nearly 400 years. She is a self-made woman and has no need to go answering the pleas and beggings of people she has never known and who never cared for her. Everyone who ever gave her anything or helped her is in Essos. Why would she want to save Westeros when she has millions of slaves to free and hundreds of thousands of slave masters to slaughter? There is zero compelling reason for Dany to ever go to Westeros or even care about conquering it. Essos is her land and her people, in truth. It is wealthier, warmer, and larger, and teeming with people who would outright worship her.
  8. Why? Why would that be the logical course? Wouldn't the first course be to, oh I dunno, secure much of Essos for ships, ports, supplies etc? Or use the Horde to conquer all of Essos? Its not even her dream. Or kill them both and walk away. For all the "characters face consequences" ideal of the show, it sure as shit did what every other show did and abandon the fuck out of it when it needed to.
  9. But he should have, and would have for a better show and episode. They get ganked for the same reasons Robb got ganked. For pissing off the wrong people too many damned times.
  10. So in the books, when was the last time she even mentioned that? Oh and Robert is dead, as is Tywin, Joffrey etc etc. And Varys arranged it. It just isn't relevant anymore, and isn't even the most recent attempt on her life. The Qaathi and Sons of the Harpy take credit for that.
  11. Dany could always say "Fuck it" to Westeros and the Iron Throne and conquer the richer, larger Essos, which has a nice handy underclass desperate to revolt and follw her. I could easily see her gathering up the Dothraki and using them as a hammer to acquire Norvos and Qohor while also grabbing Volantis. I mean why go to Westeros at all? That was Viserys' obsession, Dany only sort of cared.
  12. If there were some episodes left, it'd be nice showing the progression of years as a multidecade winter kills everything and everyone, and when Bran is a middle aged man, seeing millions of wights march across Westeros in an unstoppable apocalypse.
  13. "Subversive" isn't anymore, its just another tired lame trope at this point. Sweetrobin in the show has zero reason to not survive and thrive and without dragons in the picture, the Vale remains completely fucking invulnerable. All it has to do is maintain relations with Braavos and its arsenal, and poof, the rest of the kingdoms can fuck off. Or beat themselves bloody against the bloody gates or try and fight a long naval war. Sweetrobin in the book however, is on the edge of being poisoned to death or dying from withdrawal, having a severe epileptic fit regarding Sansa"Alayne" getting hurt oneway or another, or outright assassination. Even if he is aged up and has grown quite a bit and is entering physical and sexual maturity, he's still all kinds of fucked. IIRC, they ignored the SweetSleep and drugs entirely in the show, but its a thing in the books.
  14. No. They originally wanted to join in with the Northeners, but Lysa kept them out of it. Robb goes and plays himself and Stannis gets outmaneuvered. Suddenly Lysa looks less batshit crazy and more clever. Then everything else keeps happening, and the Valelords are uninvolved and remain intact. All that crap, and the leadership remained aloof and refused to engage. Suddenly it looks less like cowardice and more like wisdom. Especially since nobody with a strong enough navy cares to be their enemy. So thats what I mean. Its like being the only kid who avoided drugs and alcohol in a class, and then a few years later being the only one not a total wreck.
  15. Valelords are now superhappy they weren't involved in all the stupid bullshit.
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