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  1. Torienne

    Your favorite individual acting performance

    Everybody who was mentioned here is an excellent actor and has seized and conquered my heart and my emotion. But I do want to mention Gwendoline Christie: Her acting with NCW in ep. 2 was absolutely stunning and so intense, that I weeped and weeped and weeped during her knighting. And her smile afterwards: Pure sunshine. Pure warmth. Pure happiness.
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    Were you expecting something different?

    What I expected - - - ? The most annoying character played by the less talented actor was "chosen" to be king (for reasons which just make me laugh out loud: "storytelling"!!!!) ? All these cowards who were far too craven to kill the "tyrant" themselves sentence the only brave man who was not as cowardly to a life in exile ? Jon Snow after all those years of fighting and hardships and pain getting exactly right back to the point where he started? I didn't expect that. But if I had expected something like that I wouldn't have watched the show. I wouldn't have wasted my time.
  3. King Bran - if his character in the books is just as emotionless and no longer human as in the show - is just ridiculous. King Bran in the books would mean that GRRM mistrusts magic and power and religion - only as long as it is not practiced by a Stark. Bran as king to me seems shallow. Much much ado and hundreds of thousands of words about - yes: nothing.
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    Jon's Surrender

    Why? Because the finale is all about ridiculousness and cynicism.
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    So what was this long story all about?

    What all the long story is about? An outcast must stay where he belongs - as far away from "good" society as possible. If he tries to do better he must and will be punished.
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    The purpose of R+L=J?

    Learn your lesson well: An outcast stays an outcast. No matter how brave he is. No matter how selfless he is. No matter how much personal happiness he sacrifices for a greater purpose. No matter what fierce a warrior he is. In the finale the outcast ends an outcast. A bastard. Someone who is punished for all the good he did. Who is for ever banned from better society. Someone who is sent into the cold. Outcasts should never ever try. A bastard is always sent back to where he always belonged.
  7. Cinematography and the actors were just excellent. But I voted "1" because I will never get over how D&D killed the main character John. He's fought all his life incredibly bravely for the living against the dead - but the writers gave Arya the triumph to kill the NK. Jon is the rightful heir - but not he but Bran becomes the new king. Jon frees Westeros from "tyrant Dany" and was an honest man all his life - but not he but the corrupt Bronn ends up in the council.... Thus, in my eyes, they ridiculed all the R+L=J- story. They punished the hero, who always burned for doing good to a dreadful life in a deadly desert of ice - to let the heartless and the greedy rule and thus teach us a shamelessly cynical lesson. I will never forgive them.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    That's it. If you are a fan/ supporter of a soccer-, football-, basketball- or whatsoever-Team, you know and accept that your team might and probably will lose some games. And if this happens, even a derby, you are sad for a certain time, and then, everything will be okay again - - - provided your team did their best. In that case nobody would sign a petition. But if only your team´s defense (in this case the actors, the directors, the whole crew) did an excellent job, whilst the offense just strolled around on the match field, too lazy to score, showing their lack of interest, demonstrating their boredom, leaving hardly any doubt how much they disdain their fans and their audience, and if your favorite team therefore loses the game - - then you get very, very angry. And you sign a petition, hoping that thus these arrogant and lazy players of this offense will be sent into early retirement. And of course being absolutely certain that this terrible game will never be repeated.
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    Who's hyped for Episode 6 for unintended reasons?

    I´m not hyped at all. Sunday night/ Monday morning I will read a lot of reviews and summaries before I decide if I want to expose myself to all the bitterness I now see coming. I'm no masochist, and so I will not give D&D any power over my emotional reactions any more. If I have enough reason to think there will be only bitterness for me, I don't know if I will even watch it. And if I do, I will watch for "scientific" reasons only. I wait and see. But I am absolutely not looking forward to it. I expect nothing but the sad ruins of a great story. Nothing extraordinary, just the normal cynicism. I am not sure if I want to invest any more time in it.
  10. As far as I understand the discussion here nobody argues like that. But Sansa herself admitted (and proved it) that she learned quite a lot from Littlefinger. And who can ever forget Littlefinger´s main mantra: "Chaos is a ladder!"? When you hate and fear and disdain the queen, and you suddenly come to know that there is another, more rightful heir to the throne, who btw feels strongly connected to you and your family - then you can be sure that to spread this information will weaken the queen's position. Sansa knows enough about history in Westeros to know that whenever there are several heirs to the throne, there will be conflict and diverging interests and turmoil and, yes: Chaos. And where there is chaos there will always be many opportunities for characters like Littlefinger and Sansa to take advantage from. So Sansa created chaos. Deliberately. Intentionally. Successfully.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    And let's not forget: The Lannister propaganda... Remember the theatrical performances Arya watched in Braavos? People were absolutely biases against the Starks, they loved Cersei and her son, they booed like hell each time "the imp" or Ned Stark appeared on stage.
  12. Did anyone examine scientifically the impacts and effects of morning sickness on a pregnant woman with superhuman abilities under terribly stressed conditions? Prenatal depression / hormonal turbulences, perhaps? ;-)
  13. I couldn't agree more. And there is another thing. I asked this question in another thread but nobody answered (the thread is about Bran). So perhaps, as this is a Dany thread, people here are more interested: Since I watched ep 5, I keep wondering why on earth we never saw Dany´s face during the more than 20 minutes while she was burning KL and nearly everybody in it. You see her face when the bells ring. Yes. But never again afterwards. Do you remember a movie - ANY kind of movie - where the main character fights an absolutely crucial battle - and the camera never ever, not for a split of a second, shows her/his face to the audience? Thus, you never know what the main character feels in this all decisive time: Is she triumphant? Is she without any emotions at all? Killing like a robot? Is she fighting her own doubts? Etc., etc. When people fight for their lives: You see their faces on your screen. Even when a killer gets ready for his next shot: You see his face. We are humans. We are interested in each other's faces because by watching them we usually get a lot of information. So from a storytelling point of view as well as from a cinematic point of view: Isn't it absolutely strange and odd and extraordinary and weird: Not to see Dany´s face even once or twice during the 20 most important minutes of her life?!? And why didn't they show us?
  14. The more I think about it the more convinced I am. When I compare the lively little boy - even after his fall from the tower - with that non-human monster that did not feel anything anymore - even to someone like Meera who again and again risked her life for him - when I remember his ice-cold reactions meeting his siblings after all those years - when I think that a hint of that former liveliness showed only when he said "We need to tell him" - - yes, I really do think that Bran´s intentions are not friendly to mankind.
  15. Exactly. But having this precise picture in his vision "Burn them all!". And knowing for sure that there are only two dragons left in his world and that they belong and obey Dany: Why did he not warn his siblings? Why did he not warn Dany? Not warn Jon Snow? Dany´s dragon over KL - is there another interpretation to this vision apart from deadly danger? Why did Bran not warn anybody.
  16. Didn´t we see Drogon´s shadow high above KL in one of Bran´s visions? And didn´t ep. 5 repeat exactly this sequence - with real Drogon following his shadow?
  17. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! You write a lot of interesting stuff about "protection" being the main theme of Sansa´s arc. But frankly asked: What do you think about Brienne? Brienne did protect her and obviously Sansa trusts her 100 per cent. Otherwise she would have Jaime killed when he arrived in Winterfell.
  18. I read the books. Therefore I know that Bran often warged into his direwolf Summer. In the show he often warged into crows. So why did D&D let him not even try to warg into Viserion?
  19. Dear me. When I wrote my statement I wasn't aware that there was another user dealing with the same questions as I did, and that he opened a thread about it. As I didn't read Bran´s name in the title I read it after i had posted here. Sorry.
  20. Hm. Interesting thoughts. Thanks for sharing. When super powerful Bran didn't do anything in the battle of Winterfell apart from wait and see, I was rather bewildered. Why didn't he even try to warg into someone important, into one of the dragon for instance or into Theon or.... the list is endless. I am no admirer of the skills of D&D - but I couldn't bring myself to the opinion that they had just forgotten about him. Then there was the scene with his sisters and Jon, when Sansa and Arya swore their oaths to protect Jon´s secret. Bran MUST have known that Sansa hated Dany and that she would not keep her oath when it was clear that she could use this information against Dany. But Bran told them Jon´s parentage, and he MUST have known what a disaster would come from this. What - pure speculation but just for the fun of it - if Bran told them intentionally to get exactly the results he wanted. He saw Dragon´s shadow over KL. Bran knew what would come out of it. And he told Sansa. It was his choice. Another thing: Since I watched ep 5, I keep wondering why on earth we never saw Dany´s face during the more than 20 minutes during which she burnt KL and nearly everybody in it. You see her face when the bells ring. Yes. But never again afterwards. Do you remember a movie - any kind of movie - where the main character fights an absolutely crucial battle - and the camera never ever, not for a split of a second, shows you her/his face? You never know what the main character feels in this all decisive time: Is he/she triumphant? Is he/she without any emotions at all? Killing like a robot? Is he/she fighting his/her own doubts? Etc., etc. From a storytelling point of view as well as from a cinematic point of view: Isn't it absolutely strange and odd: Not to see the main character´s face even once or twice during the 20 most important minutes of her/his life?!? Since I'm trying to understand what the showmakers´ intentions could have been I just keep glued to the thought that they didn't show us Dany´s face - because then we would have seen her white eyeballs... Do you think it possible that Bran warged into Dany? And why?
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    Rule by fear it is.

    You are of course right concerning the NW. Thanks for reminding me. And with your last sentence you are equally right: Great Britain did develop and prosper in an analogical way.
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    So what happens to Drogon?

    But wouldn't it be an amazing spectacle if Jon attacked Drogon in a last heroic fight? And the both vanish together in a cloud of fire and blood, of ice and fire? Sorry for being sarcastic. But spectacles are all that now remains of a once complex story, and spectacles for spectacles´sake are obviously all that matters for D&D.
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