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  1. Damein Blackfyre true king

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    Fever dream they weren't at kingslanding because of a vow and that Areys would sit the thrown if they were there: “I looked for you on the Trident,” Ned said to them. “We were not there,” Ser Gerold answered. “Woe to the Usurper if we had been,” said Ser Oswell. where you were.” “Far away,” Ser Gerold said, “or Aerys would yet sit the Iron Throne, and our false brother would burn in seven hells.” “Then or now,” said Ser Arthur. He donned his helm. “We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Gerold. Examples of the vows: we never got the official vows on either mediums. Jaime has a dream where the dead KG and Rhaegar confront him
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    Question for you? Why are you being dismissive? Nothing I mentioned was solely mentioned in the show. The point of all this speculation is there is little evidence from the book because we all have read it multple times by now. I find it sad that people are intolerant of others theories that are based in the text. I came here to discuss ideas because I love the complexity of ASOIF. You may disagree but just about all of the examples came from worldbook and or the books. I mentioned nothing strictly from the show and don't need you attempting to moderate my post. Thanks!
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    @Prof. Cecily there is evidence Rhaegar was making moves to take over. Rhaegar told Jamie to stay with the king. He said he was going to call a great council once he returns after the trident. If u analyze that statement. He was going to call a council of lords to legitimize his coup d'etat. By kings guard oath Jamie should have arrested the crowned prince for treason or at the very least told someone else. So you can argue Jamie supported Rhaegar > Areys. Yes Rhaegar died prior to the TOJ but he left instructions to all three kings guards who were present. Their words said that they were not at the trident because of a vow. They stated that Areys would still be king if they were at kings landing however they weren't there. They swore a vow. The most fundamental vow kings guardsmen have is to protect the king but they weren't there. Let's look who were at the tower, Whent who threw the tourney that was suppose to be the initial meeting to sow the seeds of Rhaegar's ambition. Dayne who was Rhaegar's best friend and confidenant. Hightower whose family have a history of king making as well as him being the lord commander of the KG. Varys states that kings landing hasn't been this that divided since the dance of the dragon. So there were vocal people in court who supported Rhaegar and his ascention to the iron throne. My point is if the most hallow vow is to proctect the king above all, Hightower tells Jamie we are to protect the queen but not from Him,Areys. Why were they there and not with Areys, or Vicerys because they knew the future of the house was with Rhaegar and his line. The kings guard made a choice of which vow to follow.
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    Things aren't that linear in war. Kingslanding was split between Rhaegar and Aerys. When Rhaegar died the future of the targaryans died. Areys could have named Moon boy his heir it wouldn't have mattered. Once Rhaegar died, Areys dynasty was over. So was Vicerys the official heir maybe, but the way the 3 kingguards were acting I feel that they felt that Rhaegar was king. If you go by that their behavior makes sense at the tower. Their king gave them order and they followed it to their death. Regardless the minute Vicerys died the next monarch from houe Targaryan would have to earn the thrown by conquest not by blood.
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    Jon was born a bastard and remains a bastard.

    Your answers are interesting, it's funny to me who hate on R+L=J the books are 20yrs old but there is so much evidence that it is true. The show which is the cliff notes for the show hinted it. Like ygrain, said George brought in polygamy with Aegon, Maegar and Daemon attempted pologamy for a reason. But the great thing about the series is that you can believe what you want until it is disproven.
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    just how Targaryen is Jon?

    Just echoing what others are saying people have called Jon pretty. Men aren't usually described as pretty unless they have softer features. Brandon is described as tall and handsome,Ned was neither. However Jon is the only male of stark heritage that we see described as pretty. Even though Jon has typical stark phenotypic features with his brown hair, grey eyes (so dark they look black) and his long stark face, one can argue that Jon has softer features than others of his bloodline leading to the influence of his valyrian blood. However like purple eyes stated Jon personality and loyal he commands is very akin to Rhaegar. He is basically good at everything he does just like Rhaegar.
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    Jon was born a bastard and remains a bastard.

    Agree 100%
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    Jon was born a bastard and remains a bastard.

    Where did u get this info. There is absolutely no proof that Ned and his vanguard fought on horseback at the tower. Nor do we have any info that dayne, whent, and Hightower didn't have horses to mount as needed. The only slight evidence we have is that reed did something unhonorable to help sleigh dayne. Other than that we have no evidence.
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    Jon was born a bastard and remains a bastard.

    What vow do you think they swore? The most important vow is to protect the king. Aerys is dead, Rhaegar is dead, Aegon was killed obvious he could be alive as faegon or not. The fact that Hightower stayed after intending to find Rhaegar tells me Jon was Rhaegar's heir or at the very least was a legitamate prince of the blood. I see no reason the 3 kingsguard to be present if not for them protecting someone they feel is heir to the throne. If not they should be else where.
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    Moqorro's quote to Tyrion

    I think bright and dark may refer to someone who maybe from the line of Areon Brightflame who was exiled to List. So that could be Varys or Illyrio or another reference of Aegon.