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  1. Well I didn't really mean Alternative media and video games. I really don't think the next star wars trilogy by D&D will have much appeal precisely because it's unrelated to the OS. They're throwing Palpatine into Ep 9 for goodness sake jut to harvest nostalgia. A Nearly totally disconnected prequel series threaded by the biggest anticlimax of the show (WWs) is such a bad idea. It will be just close enough to confuse casuals and feel repetitive and just far enough to estrange us from any preexisting investment. If it succeeds, it will be IN SPITE of the GoT connection, not because of it. I don't even understand what the unifying aesthetic is supposed to be? There's no GOT look and feel that will make sense to exist thousands of years previously. It's not like Star Wars where (done right) one look says, yeah that's the same universe. Again, why Valyria would have been the better choice. A fresh aesthetic template, retaining only Dragons and the Targaryen name.
  2. I actually see the exact opposite problems. Without D&D, they will probably tone down a lot of the toilet humor, and with a basically blank slate, they could likely hire good writers and invent character intrigue that has actual depth. The problem will be everything else. The Children of the Forest were the silliest and stupidest part of GoT (not of ASoIaF). The execution looked very silly and Hammy in GoT, like a highschool play. I don't think they really can be done visually and be taken seriously. That will be far more "in your face fantasy" than anything GoT had to deal with throughout most of the first several seasons. The Others will be poison going in. Any slow-building of them as a threat will be met with serious skepticism by audiences that got burned last time. Yet shoving them in the face of viewers will get old fast and contribute to the "silly fantasy" pitfall with broader audiences. No matter what you do with them, they will amount to nothing. Meanwhile, I don't think the 'same universe' effect will hold nearly as much appeal as people think. It is thrown around a lot with Harry Potter and Star Wars, but never actually done in practice outside of very close timelines and character connections to the OS. But thousands of years in the past? What if they made a prequel to "The Wire" set 3 thousand years ago in the same universe? WTF does that even mean? What is Westeros without any of the same people or politics or kingdoms, etc? The average audience will be confused / checked out. Again, it will become a tight-rope between being wildly unconnected, or panned for being nothing more than a series of call-backs. There is really only a very thin tight-rope that could be walked here and I can't imagine HBO getting it right. The only in-universe prequel that I could imagine being an easy win was the obvious choice, that I cannot understand why they didn't go with: The Last Days of Valyeria. The pitch is so simple: Ancient Rome...with DRAGONS. Rome Meets GOT. Rise of the Targaryians from lower aristocracy, ending with an apocolyse and the conquest of Westeros. Other than the budget, how would that not have been the only serious direction to take a successor show?
  3. Here's the problem with everyone arguing that Dany was always evil: It's not foreshadowing or character development if it was done both ways and then the audience is asked to selectively justify the outcome. This is the equivalent to drawing a target after you've fired your shot. Let me illustrate with an exercise: Imagine it had turned out the other way, and Dany ended up on the Iron Throne as the "people's queen". Could you look back on her actions through the show and come up with a similar collection of evidence in favor of this outcome too? If you're being honest the answer is yes. They foreshadowed "both" outcomes then flipped a coin at the end and made her nonsensically 100% evil. That is not the same thing as saying the evidence was always there. If you wanted to play it either/or, you can't pivot so hard and suddenly at the end. You needed to show a logical descent. OR if you wanted it always to be the one outcome, you need to set it up so that looking back it couldn't have been any other way.
  4. Lol! There won't be any more books people, this seals the deal. If GRRM was already struggling from the complexity and the pressure, do you really think the GOT ending is going to do anything to help that? If the endgame is basically the same, he has no more surprises to reveal, except the enormous pressure of getting there in a more satisfying way. The crushing pressure to perform has quadrupled. Alternatively, GRRM could try adding in or beefing up a bunch of stuff to keep it fresh, which means an even more meandering and convoluted plotting, which we all know slows GRRM down like running through molasses. In almost any scenario, motivation to finish these books has to have been seriously crippled by the show. The only way I see these books getting done is if GRRM absolutely HATED season 8 with such a raging passion, that he now pours every ounce of energy into finishing these books to salvage his legacy. I don't see that happening. GOT season 8 is the only end of this story you will ever get.
  5. Why did everyone go on about Jon's trustworthiness and his commitment to duty? Shouldn't he be in most of their eyes a deserter? I get that he believes himself free from his Night's Watch oath, but does anyone in Cersei's party (or most people in Dany's) know anything about his death and resurrection?
  6. The problem I had is that nobody had to solve anything or put any pieces together. They were just spoon fed the truth from Branbot offscreen to wrap it up quickly. Contrast that with Sam and Bran each having half of the puzzle several episodes back and needing to exchange info to put the pieces together. That made for a more interesting scenario. In both we viewers already knew the truth, but in the latter we watched the characters unwrap it vs just being told offscreen
  7. I disagree. Years back, seeing my roommate watch a random episode got me hooked in minutes and I went back and powered through the whole thing. Of course part of that is taste. But for a season finale that sets up the final season, it was slow as shit. My wife's opinion highlights the fact that most of us are just riding on investment. As an isolated piece of media it was slow and boring. Good TV series should be comprised of good episodes should be comprised of good scenes should be comprised of good lines. And each of those should be able to be appreciated at their own level for what they are worth in addition to being enriched by the larger picture.
  8. Poor Aegon 1. Imagine if your dad divorced your mom, disowned you, and then named his new kid your name on top of it. What a kick in the nuts
  9. Also what a super boring episode. Why so long? It was the first one my wife has ever seen and she was in shock that people watch the show. She thought it was insufferably boring
  10. So, this episode implied both that Bran cannot see the future and that the NK can. I wonder what the implications of this will be or whether it will never be addressed or straight contradicted. It's kind of disappointing for me that the way South of the wall was built on a self fulfilling prophesy. It's not my favorite plot device.
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