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Why did everyone go on about Jon's trustworthiness and his commitment to duty? Shouldn't he be in most of their eyes a deserter?

I get that he believes himself free from his Night's Watch oath, but does anyone in Cersei's party (or most people in Dany's) know anything about his death and resurrection?

5 minutes ago, hallam said:

From the show. First thing that the TEC says to Bran in the cave is that he has been waiting for him. Then the series of interactions make it clear that he knows that Bran's arrival will lead to his death. 

Thanks.

2 minutes ago, Alphonzo said:

Yup.  Sucks to be outwitted by a silly program, dunnit?

The problem I had is that nobody had to solve anything or put any pieces together. They were just spoon fed the truth from Branbot offscreen to wrap it up quickly. Contrast that with Sam and Bran each having half of the puzzle several episodes back and needing to exchange info to put the pieces together. That made for a more interesting scenario. In both we viewers already knew the truth, but in the latter we watched the characters unwrap it vs just being told offscreen

7 minutes ago, Lurid Jester said:

Maybe it would help if she had watched it before.  Make me watch a season finale on the seventh season of a show that I never watched and I'd think it was boring too. 

I also wouldn't expect anyone to care about my opinion of it. 

I disagree. Years back, seeing my roommate watch a random episode got me hooked in minutes and I went back and powered through the whole thing. Of course part of that is taste. But for a season finale that sets up the final season, it was slow as shit. My wife's opinion highlights the fact that most of us are just riding on investment. As an isolated piece of media it was slow and boring.

Good TV series should be comprised of good episodes should be comprised of good scenes should be comprised of good lines.

And each of those should be able to be appreciated at their own level for what they are worth in addition to being enriched by the larger picture.

7 minutes ago, hallam said:

It is clear that the old three eyed crow could see the future.

The issue for Bran would be that if he sees the future, it becomes fixed and cannot be changed. So it is a big risk to do that.

Did we learn these facts in show or is this book knowledge?

Poor Aegon 1. Imagine if your dad divorced your mom, disowned you, and then named his new kid your name on top of it. What a kick in the nuts

Also what a super boring episode. Why so long? It was the first one my wife has ever seen and she was in shock that people watch the show. She thought it was insufferably boring

So, this episode implied both that Bran cannot see the future and that the NK can. I wonder what the implications of this will be or whether it will never be addressed or straight contradicted.

It's kind of disappointing for me that the way South of the wall was built on a self fulfilling prophesy. It's not my favorite plot device.