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  1. In my experience, it's critics that are the ones that will trash something based on its ideological/political undertones, not the regular fans.
  2. A while ago I had a dream that I went to a book-shop and picked up The Winds of Winter, which was so large it had to be divided into two volumes like Storm. I was so indescribably happy to get those books. When I woke up, I felt like crying.
  3. I don't think there's enough work to be had on the Iron Islands for the "masters and nobles" to "labor with their hands". Multiple PoVs have described the Iron Islands as being mostly barren and unfertile land. That's why almost all of the nobles become captains and sail the seas instead.
  4. One of the many reasons why Jaime's PoV is my favourite in the whole series is because how every single relationship he has dramatically changes between just two books, but it never feels forced or rushed. His character development feels so naturally written, you almost don't notice a lot of the changes at first, but on re-reads it becomes more apparent.
  5. I don't know about any objective judgements, but in my own personal opinion it's gotta be Arianne. Based on the absolutely exhaustive lengths that Martin goes to describe her physical appearance, I think he probably agrees too. Arianne is like a check-list of every single thing I find attractive in a woman. I certainly do not blame poor Ser Arys for dishonouring his vows.
  6. I think Varys wins the prize here. His whole "WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!" shtick rings very hollow when he's gone out of his way several times to destabilise regimes that were actually ensuring peace and resolving problems. He likes to think he's above petty politics, but he's not. He just cloaks his cheerleading for one side under the guise of some superior morality.
  7. I agree that they were poorly written plotlines - D&D were bad writers in general - but I don't agree with your sentiment that writers should write only what fans want to see. That's just fan-service, it's not real storytelling. As soon as a writer refuses to write something because he's scared of how people will respond, he loses integrity and credibility.
  8. Isn't Theon being kept chained in Stannis's chamber? Might be a bit hard for him to see anything. Asha definitely could see it, though, since she's been allowed freedom of movement in the camp.
  9. Ned Stark is like.... the last lord that would ever kick out family from his home so long as he was there.
  10. I think it's mostly just the magic-heavy stuff that he'll be having trouble with. Winds will almost certainly be a far more magic-heavy book than any others in the series, and the supernatural is a realm where Martin hasn't focused thus far, and I think he's probably facing challenges with making it as interesting and nuanced as the political storylines. I'd almost be willing to bet money that he's specifically stuck with the Others, with not wanting to make them cartoonish villains that are uninteresting.
  11. One can only imagine just how frustrated and upset Martin himself is, but obviously he's far too professional and tactful to say those things himself.
  12. Oh gods, please don't remind me of how they butchered Jaime's Feast storyline. The wound is still too fresh. I waited for years to see his riverlands campaign on-screen, and what we got was..... no.
  13. In general the show always felt a lot emptier and smaller than the world of the books. In a way it's inevitable - it was impossible for the show to cast the literally thousands of side characters mentioned off-hand in the books - but the end result was still disappointing. Martin is perhaps unrivaled in literary history for how effortlessly he makes side characters memorable and distinct even when they barely show up, and it felt like so much wasted potential when D&D cut out 95% of them.
  14. I'd love to see Barbrey's reaction to this knowledge. Just yet another reason for her to seethe about the Starks.
  15. If a lowborn servant started shouting out shocking and vile claims about the children of Tywin Lannister, that lowborn servant would find themselves very quickly being brutally tortured or just straight-up executed. You think Tywin would let anyone get away with that? And even if they do manage to tell a lot of people before being seized, you think these other lowborn people would do anything about it? Being in such fear of Tywin's wrath, they'd be silent very quickly, deny it all, and call the servant a liar. This is Tywin Lannister we're talking about, about as far from a kind and merciful lord as you could find. Maybe, but that's not the way Martin wanted to write the story, and since there's absolutely nothing unusual about short-term memory loss after traumatic incidences, I don't think it's fair to level any criticism at Martin for this. It's one of least egregious examples of convenience in the entire series. Any other means of death would seem very suspicious, poisoning especially so considering how recently Jon Arryn died of "unexplained circumstances". And Robert was shadowed by the kingsguard most places he went, so it's not like some random person could just quickly do him in. Cersei didn't yet have the influence to pull off the shady shit she did in later books. The boar incident was very convenient and borderline contrived, yes, but it was also the least suspicious way to kill him, by far. I don't know, I think we're just arguing in circles. You think the Lannisters get an unfair level of plot armour and convenience, and I don't - I consider it to be fairly standard for this series. Certainly not bad enough to take issue with over others.
  16. Aside from Tyrion surviving a bunch of battles when he almost certainly should not have, I don't think they have all that much plot armour, and if it is there, it feels far more naturally consistent with the story than other examples. To respond to your points about the Lannisters: I don't think this is plot armour, it's just a natural result of them being highborn. They have the power to get rid of non-highborn people that are a nuisance to them, without any repercussions. That's a pretty basic trait of nobles. There isn't really much that can be done about it. Tywin has the ultimate authority in the Lannister family, and unless he saw it directly, he would never allow anyone to take action against his children. And Tywin had a huge case of cognitive dissonance when it came to Jaime and Cersei's relationship. It's not unusual for someone to suffer short term memory loss after a severe traumatic injury. I agree that Tyrion weasels his way out of situations where realistically he shouldn't have. I won't defend this one; Martin's admitted favouritism towards Tyrion is very obvious. The boar incident is definitely one of the more ridiculous plot contrivances of the series, but there are many examples of similar things throughout the series with other characters. And there are at least some elements of the "plan" that make sense - Robert is a severe alcoholic, he loves to hunt, and because of his weight he's slower than he used to be. Cersei knew all of this, so it's not unreasonable to assume that she could have seen an opportunity here. She got extremely lucky, yes, but Robert was going to die anyway - it needed to happen for the rest of the story to progress. Unlike with Tyrion or Arya, this wasn't a case of Martin using plot contrivances to save one of his favourite characters from certain-death; it was done so the entire rest of the series could continue. It's not the same as Tyrion and Arya constantly surviving battles when physically they should not be able to.
  17. Almost every main character has huge amounts of plot armour, it's not limited to the Lannisters. Arya, Jon and Daenerys are far more egregious examples of ridiculous levels of plot armour. ESPECIALLY Arya.
  18. Assuming that in this timeline Ser Stafford Lannister still dies at Oxcross, that still leaves Ser Devan Lannister to take command in the westerlands. Since he was later made the Warden of the West by Cersei in Feast, it's not far-fetched to imagine that he'd be an acceptable choice to take charge of the westerlands should there be no other Lannisters available. He seemed to do a decent enough job in Feast (though granted at that time the war was all but over).
  19. Yeah that's what I meant. Obviously the Freys get plenty of hate for their involvement in the Red Wedding, and even the Lannisters to a lesser extent, but I was curious about how the Boltons are viewed, and if it's common knowledge that Roose was involved with it. That'd severely hurt his chances of pacifying the North, if that's the case.
  20. I think the problem is that a lot of people read these books solely for the surface-level plot; the twists, the action, the scheming, etc. They don't have much interest in the slow, subtle worldbuilding and character development. But for me it's those last two things that are the sole reasons why this series is so good. It's what makes it rise above just being an edgy grimdark fantasy series where everyone kills each other. Martin didn't just want to make a fantasy version of the War of the Roses, he wanted to create his own world down to the smallest detail, and he wanted to delve deeply into the pysches of his characters. Martin doesn't approach the series with the mindset of "Okay how do I get from this plot point to that plot point in the most direct, no-nonsense way possible?" If he did, his series would suck. It'd just read like a Wikipedia summary rather than actual literature, and literature is not the same as a screenplay; it's not meant to boil itself down to the bare essentials that are relevant for plot progression. A lot of the time, worldbuilding and character development is the entire raison d'etre for literature, and plot is secondary in importance.
  21. I just reread the chapter where Dany rejects him, and I really felt bad for Quentyn. I could relate to him somewhat. The fact that Dany even thought how much hotter one of his companions was, and that she wishes he was the prince instead, was both hilarious and pitiable.
  22. I'm sure that if Dany does go down a darker path in the books, that's how Martin will handle it. But the whole "sudden snap into madness" thing seems like it'll work more naturally for Jon Connington than Dany. But since super-geniuses D&D decided to leave out that extremely important storyline, they were forced to give certain character developments to other characters (e.g. Jon filling Aegon's shoes to a degree). I'm still convinced that Dany wouldn't have gone full Mad Queen if Aegon and Connington existed in the show. But regardless, D&D weren't even capable of writing characters with even a fraction of the nuance of Better Call Saul characters, to name a show that was on at the same time. Game of Thrones was always the sillier and pulpier type of show compared to other heavyweight dramas.
  23. None of those battles were even remotely as important as the Battle of Ice/Winterfell will be. The Battle of Ice will be the Winds of Winter equivalent of the Battle of Blackwater, not the Battle of the Whispering Wood, to make comparisons.
  24. D&D had a bad habit of whitewashing characters that they liked and didn't want to show in a more negative light. Tyrion is the most extreme example, but there's plenty of others as well. Their personal opinion of the actor/actress playing the character always contributed. They whitewashed Cersei so much because D&D personally liked Lena Heady. D&D were not willing to make fan-favourite characters do bad things, not until the second last episode of the entire series. They did not have the willpower and commitment that showrunners like David Chase and Vince Gilligan did.
  25. I don't know if this would have helped much, since Astapor rose up again after she left. What she needed to was conquer it - take the city, kill or expel the slavers, station some Unsullied and sellswords in the city, and add it to her little empire in Slaver's Bay. If all three cities were controlled by her and her soldiers, she'd be in a much better situation. Dany's problem was that she didn't fully commit - she needed to embrace being a Targaryen and emulate Aegon by conquering enough to make her too powerful to dislodge. Simply taking Meereen wasn't enough, she needed all three cities if she wanted to be self-sustaining.
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