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  1. How exactly would this happen? Tommen was already betrothed to Margaery. Are you suggesting she should have broken that betrothal? You think that's a good idea to do to the daughter of the most powerful lord in Westeros? This would have resulted in retribution so massive and devastating that it'd make the Red Wedding look peaceful. How is she going to do this, exactly? Not only are all of these characters in different places, but Cersei has no allies in Dorne except for the two Kingsguard that go there, but even they aren't in the position to poison anyone. If the entire Martell family except Trystanne were all suddenly killed by poison, it'd be the most obvious assassination plot in history, and every single person in Dorne would rightly suspect Cersei Lannister of being behind it, and they'd rebel. Dorne was on the brink of rebelling when Oberyn Martell was killed because of his own stupidity in a fight that he wanted - what do you imagine the Dornish will do when most of the royal family is murdered? Every single man, woman and child would pick up their weapons and march into the Reach, and when Aegon and Connington land in the stormlands, they'd give them the full support of the Dornish lords. The Targaryens couldn't do this with dragons. How could Cersei do it without even an army? "After she found Sansa". You make it sound like this wouldn't be difficult. Even the great lords around her in the Vale don't even know that Alayne is Sansa Stark. How is someone as stupid as Cersei going to find out? How? She has no army, and the Boltons are thousands of kilometres away. She can't marry Sansa to anyone, since Sansa's marriage to Tyrion is still valid, and it can't be annulled without the approval of the High Septon who for obvious reasons will not do Cersei that favour. You know, because of the whole incest and adultery thing? How? How? Cersei has open contempt for the smallfolk, though. She doesn't care about whether they like her or not, just like Tywin didn't. How would she take Highgarden, or any part of the Reach? Not only does she not have an army, but even if she had every single westerlands lord and soldier at her command, it still wouldn't be nearly enough to defeat the Tyrells. Also, Cersei doesn't even believe the rumours about Daenerys and the dragons, so why would she waste all of that wealth on a Faceless Man? The things you suggest she should have done are all impossible. It isn't her fault for not magically conquering every single part of Westeros despite having no army.
  2. Her internal monologue in Feast is possibly the most entertaining of all the PoVs in the series; imagining ridiculous and far-fetched conspiracies every few minutes, constantly fantasising about assaulting and killing people around her, repeatedly telling herself that she's the greatest ruler Westeros has ever had, etc. The fact that so many of her interactions boil down to something like this is truly hilarious: Person: "Hi Cersei, I hope you have a great day!" Cersei: "Haha thanks, you too." I will make sure you die screaming, you whore! How dare you talk to me like that.
  3. Yes, she really is. The entire point of her Feast storyline is how much of a disaster she is. Littlefinger even admits to Sansa that he's surprised at how quickly Cersei has destabilised the kingdom, that he thought it'd take a bit longer at least. And Varys kills Kevan and Pycelle at the end of Dance specifically because they were doing too good a job at fixing Cersei's mistakes, and he wanted Cersei back in power to keep destabilising Westeros. Better, yes, but that's not saying much. Dany's rule isn't all that impressive either. She made the mistake of trying to play the middle ground and satisfy all parties, which just ended up pissing off all parties. She needed to choose one side and stick with it; either the ancien regime politicians, or the new freedmen. Her marriage to Hizdahr was her biggest mistake. Dany needed to be way more ruthless and purge everyone even loosely connected to the old regime and old order. She wanted to act like a Ned-esque ruler, all just and moderate and honourable, but in this case she really did need to act like a Tywin-esque ruler, iron-fisted and ruthless to anyone that poses even a slight danger to her rule. Her unwillingness to be ruthless was just as big a mistake as Cersei's over-enthusiasm to be ruthless and deceptive. Not necessarily. Qyburn is more knowledgeable in certain fields, but those are bad fields and not ones that Cersei should be exploring. Pycelle may be old, but he's not stupid, despite what Cersei thinks. He became Grand Maester for a reason. Completely different jobs, though. Kingsguard is just being a bodyguard. Warden of the East is a mostly ceremonial title except in wartime, and even then it mostly just involves leading armies, see: Ser Devan Lannister being made Warden of the West in Feast, and all he does is command the siege at Riverrun. Neither of these roles are even remotely similar to Hand of the King, which is the de facto prime minister who manages the day-to-day affairs of the kingdom. They need to be wise, patient and diligent. Jaime believed that he did not possess these traits, and he also just didn't want to do the job. It's always a bad idea to force someone to do an important job that they really don't want to do. That's just common sense. How? Literally everyone that doesn't sycophantically flatter her is deemed "too ambitious" by Cersei's delusional standards. Margaery behaved exactly as the daughter of the most powerful lord in Westeros, and the person betrothed to the king, would be expected to behave. It's Cersei's extreme paranoia that makes her believe Margaery's behaviour is suspicious, when in reality tit isn't. True, but she still trusts her enough to confide in her a lot of things that she shouldn't have. Tywin would not have approved at all.
  4. I can't see that happening until she beats Aegon. He seems to be better positioned to gathering Westerosi support; he got there first, and he has a better claim. Dany will need to unleash some fire and blood on him first, but that might make her lose potential supporters. An interesting dilemma.
  5. Frankly, I think Martin went too far in making the Dothraki so primitive. Even their historical inspirations - the nomadic Turks and the Mongols - used shields, armour and sophisticated tactics because of their proximity to more developed civilisations (e.g. China, Persia). That's how they were able to eventually beat them. They took things from their enemies and adapted them into new and innovative variations. The Dothraki adapt nothing and learn nothing. The history buff inside me desperately wants them to cross the Narrow Sea and be effortlessly exterminated in a single battle by a Westerosi army that actually wears armour and uses spears and shields.
  6. I would say this a very popular opinion. I'd be very surprised if there were more than a small handful of readers that are more interested in the magical aspects of the story compared to the grounded political ones. I think part of the reason why Winds is taking so long is because Martin is struggling with making the magical side of the story - which is sure to be more prominent in the final few books - as interesting as the non-magical things. The guy clearly loves medieval history and has spent an ungodly amount of time describing countless feudal families, but his inspiration for actual hard fantasy seems a bit lacking in comparison. Martin is unparelleled when it comes to medieval/historical-inspired worldbuilding, but if one were to remove all of that and focus just on the fantasy, he wouldn't even get into the top twenty fantasy writers.
  7. My unpopular opinion: I despise Arya as a character and her chapters are among my least favourite in the whole series. I prefer practically every other PoV characters' chapters over hers. The fact that Martin gave her an absurd amount of chapters in books 2 and 3 seems completely unjustified based on just how little her storyline is relevant for the plot. The whole idea of showing how bad the war has affected the countryside was handled better in three or four Brienne chapters in Feast than it was in two dozen Arya chapters in Clash and Storm. Arya is too young for most of her story to be even slightly believable, and her whole shtick of "Don't mess with me, I'M A KILLER!" gets lame really fast.
  8. I think it both is and isn't. It depends entirely on which PoV one's talking about. Catelyn's Storm storyline, Jaime and Brienne's Feast storylines and Theon's Dance storyline easily classify as "serious literature" in my opinion. But the more standard fantasy-esque characters like Jon, Daenerys and Arya are definitely pulpy and shouldn't be taken too seriously.
  9. In this case, the opposite is true - Stoneheart exists only to wreak vengeance on those she thinks wronged her and her family, and this will make her jump to the conclusion that Jeyne was involved with the conspiracy, based purely on the fact that she's the daughter of the woman who was confirmed to be plotting with Tywin.
  10. Jeyne's mother, Sybell Spicer, was conspiring with Tywin Lannister. She engineered Robb and Jeyne's meeting. It would be fairly logical - though incorrect - for Stoneheart to conclude that Jeyne was also part of the conspiracy.
  11. You keep saying this but there's no evidence.
  12. Well that's on you for not being familiar with the types of names in other countries.
  13. This is a strawman. The majority of people do not "hate Essos and its plotlines"; they might prefer the storylines in Westeros, but that doesn't equate to hating the other ones. It's not a binary situation. People can enjoy both, but prefer one. And just because people have criticisms of one, doesn't mean they hate it. They're good, but I don't think they're quite on the same level as the best regions of Westeros (i.e. the North, King's Landing). Perhaps, but again, I don't think they're on the same level as the characters in the most interesting regions of Westeros. Not similar at all. A lot of the names in Westeros are directly derived from real-world names, some with only very minor alterations (e.g. Jaime instead of Jamie, Jon instead of John), and others are identical (e.g. Robert, Brandon). I don't see how one could consider most Westerosi names "strange" compared to the Essosi/Meereenese ones. To me they're like night and day.
  14. Since Mel is the only living PoV at the Wall, that sure as hell makes for an interesting ship
  15. The fact that you've consistently failed to respond to my actual point says as much as I need to know, and says a lot about you. Enjoy your pointless arguing about something that can't be confirmed either way. If that's the type of thing that makes your day feel fulfilling, go right ahead. What a joke.
  16. I tire of this already. It's clear you seem to relish in this type of argument, hence why you seem unwilling to call a truce here and accept the obvious: This is a pointless debate, because any one of us could be entirely correct or entirely incorrect about everything. Even Martin's own statements aren't even a guarantee of accuracy, since the man has repeatedly over the last two decades rewritten large chunks of the books and restructured the PoVs drastically in the process of writing them. This pointless argument is just a symptom of the extraoardinarily long wait for Winds; nobody would sit here arguing semantics and the difference between one or two PoVs if the wait hadn't been as long as it is. You and @$erPounce can continue this argument for months and it won't matter - not until we actually have the book in our hands and can count up the number of PoVs.
  17. I would be very surprised if Martin added any new PoVs, and even if some were to be added, I highly doubt it'll be a Sand Snake. We already have Cersei's PoV in King's Landing, and we will soon have two that are nearby (JonCon and Arianne in the Stormlands). You said that @StarksInTheNorth's sarcasm about Dany and Bran being unimportant "missed by a mile". I said that it didn't, since I picked it up immediately. I implied that you hadn't read his comment carefully enough, if you thought he wasn't being sarcastic, since anyone claiming that Dany and Bran are unimportant obviously hadn't read the books, which surely isn't the case for anyone posting here. This entire argument has been about exactly how many PoVs will be in Winds based on claims that Martin has made. My point was that it's futile to debate such things, since Martin constantly changes his plans and rewrites his books. He may have said there'll be 13 PoVs a while ago, but that could change any time. We won't know until we have the books in our hands. Yes they are. They want to murder innocent children and start a war which will kill many other innocent people. The people actually responsible for the crimes they want "justice" for are already dead. They just have a bloodlust.
  18. Considering that Martin is well known for his extensive rewrites of his books, I'm surprised that people here are sticking so dogmatically to the believe that what he said in this interview or that is gospel and something that he will strictly adhere to. The guy has practically rewritten entire books and restructured the series in the past, midway through writing a book. Why is it so hard to believe that at some point he'll have changed his mind about how many PoVs will be included in Winds? Only to people unable to read things carefully, it seems. I picked up on it instantly. Only someone that hasn't read the books would say that Dany and Bran aren't important.
  19. Not quite accurate to say that the Mongols "ruled" these places. In most cases (especially further west) they just demanded tribute in the form of wealth or manpower, and left those places alone other than that. If they didn't receive tribute, they'd show up and kill a bunch of people until they became submissive. Rinse and repeat. The Mongols had no desire to become administrators and bureaucrats. They just wanted to conquer and get tribute.
  20. This was always funny to me. In the show it was especially funny how Winterfell seemed to consist of only one muddy courtyard that showed up in every single scene. It made the Starks and Winterfeel seem so small and insignificant compared to other parts of Westeros.
  21. Possibly, but not necessarily. The books do not unfold in a 100% strictly chronological order. Swords opened with a few chapters that actually occurred during the same time as the end of Clash, according to Martin's "note on chronology" before the first chapter. That's interesting. I think that, if that's still true, the surviving PoVs that will be lost will be Connington's, Brienne's, and possibly Melisandre's (less sure on this one). I don't believe for one second that Sam or Jaime will not have PoV chapters in Winds. Sam has too much important plot-relevant information to uncover (and he's our only PoV in the Reach), and Jaime's psychological journey has not yet been completed.
  22. I always thought it was odd just how small most of the major houses are. The Starks, despite being the most powerful and influential dynasty in the North, and being ancient to an absurd degree, consist of only eight people, only three of whom are adults, and one of those wasn't even born a Stark. The Baratheons consisted of only "six" people, though three of them are bastards of another dynasty. The Martels consist of only FOUR legitimised members. This is just ridiculous. Most houses should be like the Freys, or at least the Lannisters. They're far more realistic, considering Martin was inspired by medieval European history.
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