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  1. Storm had plenty of twists and turns as well, and is the longest book in the series. That came out two years after Clash. I don't think it's taken him a decade to work out the "Meereenese knot", and if it has, that means the rest of the series is doomed. Martin can write excellent chapters and passages that don't require a decade to write; see the rest of the series. I just don't feel like jumping through hoops and grasping at straws to justify this monumental delay. It is what it is. The book hasn't come out in a decade, and there's the very real possibility that it never will come out. I'm at peace with that.
  2. In that case: Martin stopped working on the show in 2014/15. The last episode he wrote was for season 4, which aired in 2014 and was thus probably made in 2013. That means he hasn't had any actual writing work for the show in 8 years. His "involvement" with the show was relatively minimal (especially since D&D ignored most of his suggestions), and it ended a long time ago in any real capacity. Him being "busy" with the show is not a valid justification for the monumental delay with Winds.
  3. I don't know if this was intended as sarcasm or not, so I'm not sure how to respond to it.
  4. I predict that we'll still be arguing about our Winds of Winter predictions in another five years.
  5. My head-canon says that this musician had secret Stark sympathies, and was doing this as a tiny bit of personal retribution for the Red Wedding.
  6. I stopped watching in season 5 so I don't know about any new cast members are that, but from the first five seasons, the worst one, in my opinion, would possibly be Lena Heady. I know this is probably a controversial take, but I just never really saw her as being Cersei. Not only is she not even close to being "the most beautiful woman in the world" as the books describe her, and even the show at one point, but I also think the actress didn't have the right type of energy and attitude - a lot of that might be down to the writing and directing, granted, but I always thought that Heady kept delivering lines with far too little energy or charisma. Most of her dialogue comes across as excessively subdued and monotonous, whereas in the books Cersei is a very emotionally unstable and expressive character. I just don't think Heady's performance imbued enough of that charisma and expressiveness as befitting Cersei. She seemed to mostly just be bored, in her expressions and her line delivery.
  7. I'm still convinced that Hardhome only existed because D&D wanted another cool battle scene. They seemed to operate under the "rule of cool" - if something was cool, they'd do it, even if it was unnecessary in the big picture. Ros was significantly older than Sansa, even show!Sansa. Ros was, at the very least, in her late 20s, even early 30s. I don't think anyone would realistically believe her to be Sansa. Sansa's real age was well known, especially in the North. I just think this entire situation would have been so much easier by introducing Jeyne Poole. It would only take one or two short scenes, even if it was awkwardly expositional like "Hey this was one of Sansa's friends we captured". Still preferable to what D&D did. Omitting Arianne was a truly bizarre decision. They could have just had one less Sand Snake, and created Arianne instead. The Dorne storyline was always going to be important, and they introduced other relevant characters (e.g. Doran, Ellaria, Sand Snakes), I simply cannot comprehend why Arianne was excluded. Areo I can understand, but not Arianne. Interesting idea. I wouldn't have had any problem with this, it'd be fairly logical and consistent with the larger story and character development. Quentyn's storyline is one I don't really have much problem with omitting. Even in the book it felt bizarrely irrelevant and pointless. With D&D's decision to entirely exclude the fAegon and Connington storyline, it made even more sense to exclude it (Dorne doesn't need a reason to avoid Dany if fAegon doesn't exist). But if the show DID decide to include fAegon, I'd say they also needed to include Quentyn. Wouldn't have been too time-consuming. Just replace the godawful cringe scenes of Grey Worm and Missandei with Quentyn's actually relevant scenes. Good idea. Definitely could have worked. D&D seemed to have had a deep love for Bronn as a character, so this would be an actually plot relevant way to keep him around, although I don't know if D&D would have wanted to have their darling take a more villainous turn by siding with Cersei. D&D were always scared of moral ambiguity. Absolutely. It truly baffles me that of all the storylines they could have cut with some justification, this is one they cut. The invasion of Westeros by a Targaryen (as far as we know) is an absolutely HUGE deal, far more important than practically every other storyline except Jon's. The exclusion of this makes me think that either a) D&D actually did not read Dance at all, or b) fAegon ends up being irrelevant in the books, which I find somewhat hard to believe.
  8. What happened to the bodies of the dead Targaryens after the Rebellion? Were they given a proper burial? Cremated? I'm sure it's been mentioned in the books, but if so I've forgotten what was said.
  9. Maybe, but it would still be fairly consistent with Tyrion's personality at that point in the series to not do that. He can't have failed to remember the trauma of what happened to Tysha. I don't think he'd want to inflict a rape on another 13 year old wife of his. One was surely enough. Dance Tyrion definitely would have done it though, no question about it.
  10. That would be a very interesting reason, and feel more fitting for how book!Tyrion has developed. Certainly a lot more original than the bland "oh no she's so evil!" reasoning from the show.
  11. I agree that the writing becomes abysmally bad, but at the very least the barebones outlines of most of the book storylines are still there for season 5: Jon as Lord Commander, Dany ruling Meereen, Tyrion travelling through Essos, Cersei "ruling" in King's Landing, Theon in Winterfell, Arya training in Braavos, etc. Some are definitely butchered beyond repair, like Sansa, Dorne and the Iron Islands, of course. I guess I'll just have to remove them entirely, if possible (very sadly for Dorne, since I like Alexander Siddig and would have loved keeping him as Doran). I'll.... see what I can do. Season 5 will be a nightmare to "fix", but I'm certain that I can at the very least make it marginally better than what we got. Sometimes movies/shows can be improved merely by removing low quality content.
  12. Wow, that sounds like a complete mess. I'm not even going to bother with any of that except maybe the Jaime/Riverrun stuff. Some of these decisions are just downright bizarre and pointless. Why not just introduce Victarian if they're still going to send Greyjoys to Meereen? Why kill Doran if someone is still going to give his speech and (presumably) use his plans? Why did D&D remove so many important characters from the books? Did they think audiences were too stupid to remember everyone?
  13. Why would Ned go to Dragonstone? Stannis was the one charged with capturing it, and he did so successfully.
  14. Because I'm bored and have too much time on my hands, I thought I'd do a little experiment by editing the HBO series so that it's more faithful to the books. Basically I cut out any scenes that weren't in the books and re-order scenes so they occur in the same order as the PoV chapters. I'm pretty strict - if the scene doesn't contain the PoV character, I cut it, even if I actually like the scene. So far it's been incredibly easy for season 1, since almost every scene is based on a scene from the book, sometimes even verbatim. Seasons 2 and 3 shouldn't be too difficult either, although I'm expecting a bit more trouble with season 4, and season 5 with be very difficult, perhaps even impossible. D&D's ignorance and/or dislike of Feast and Dance is well known and meant that their "adaptation" of those books was.... imperfect.... to put it mildly. Still, I'll try to salvage what I can out of it, for completionists' sake. But my question is - as someone that stopped watching the show in season 5 - is there any book material beyond season 5? I recently watched on YouTube the scene where Jaime meets the Blackfish at Riverrun, which is apparently from season 6, but from everything I've read about the show, that seems to have been the only Feast/Dance hold-over, because of D&D's decision to invent the atrocious Jaime-Dorne storyline in season 5. Is that correct?
  15. A lot of people are still - understandably - in the "denial" stage. It'll take a long time before everyone gets to "acceptance".
  16. But how do you explain his reminiscing with Ned about their childhood in the Eyrie? There's no way Rhaegar could have known about those specific anecdotes.
  17. That would make "Robert's" devotion to Lyanna, and his hatred of Cersei and the Lannisters, far more reasonable.
  18. No one denies that because of Varys's "little birds" he could have had Jaime killed any time he wanted, like Pycelle and Kevan; the issue is with your claim that Varys could easily overpower Jaime physically, of which there is absolutely no textual evidence for this, purely your own conjecture and assumption. I think you need to distance yourself from your adoration of the character and look at things more objectively (i.e. based purely on what the text tells us about this character). Calling a debate you can't win "a joke" is immature.
  19. No, but not because of anything against this specifically. I just don't watch many shows anymore. At the moment I'm already watching three different series, all of them quite long - Better Call Saul, The Office (U.S), and Deep Space Nine. I don't have much motivation to start another series among all that. Plus, unless Martin writes the entire show himself - since that's the only way I know the quality will actually be good - I don't see much reason to force myself to watch yet another bastardisation of Martin's world, even if I'm sure it won't be quite as bad as later Game of Thrones.
  20. This would be the most mind-blowing twist in the history of fiction. I don't know whether to be amazed or horrified. Some people on this forum certainly seem to think so, based on these comments.
  21. I understand the thematic reasons of why there "needs" to be a confrontation between Jaime and Cersei, from a traditional storytelling perspective, but at the same time I feel that if Martin were to end every storyline with the most obvious conclusion because it's what fits thematically, there'd be no surprises left in the story. Catelyn and Robb's storylines ended very abruptly and without any closure; they never even encountered any of the people that wanted to defeat - Cersei, Tywin, Joffrey - and were unceremoniously murdered by a minor character who had only showed up once before. I don't expect the storyline to actually end the way I said - I was merely outlining what the most purely realistic and logical way it would end based on the events as they currently are, not what fans predict. But I'm sure that if Jaime was going to be killed by Stoneheart it would have been included at the end of Dance, so.... yeah, I wouldn't worry about that happening, I'm sure he'll go to King's Landing and confront Cersei and it'll either end with him killing her, as every fan predicts, or them dying together, as the show had things happen. I can't say either conclusion particularly interests me, but I'm not the writer so it's not up to me.
  22. If Martin was intent on having a realistic and logical conclusion to Jaime's arc, based on what we've seen on Stoneheart and the aDwD chapter, he'll be brought before Stoneheart, found guilty of his crimes, and hanged from a tree. An extremely bleak and nihilistic ending, to be sure, but it would have a certain poetic feel to it - hanged just as he was starting to truly turn his life around and be a better man, and hanged not for any of the crimes he really did commit, but for the one he actually did not. As much as I truly love Jaime as a character, I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with this ending. It would certainly be more unexpected and impactful than him going back to King's Landing and killing Cersei. Everyone and their cat is predicting this will happen, and it's never seemed particularly interesting or original to me.
  23. I would have thought that Martin would have an instinctive aversion to collaborating on projects with HBO after GoT, but apparently not. Very disappointing.
  24. There isn't any actual evidence to support this, just vague conjecture. Okay now this is just ridiculous. I know you're a fan of the character, but come on. This is a bit much. Unless he takes them completely by surprise and lands a single knock-out blow, there's no way he could take down a "professional warrior".
  25. It should be released in whatever format is necessary for the book to actually be released. I don't care how it's released, I just want it to be released. But all of this is pointless theorising, because we don't even know when it will be released. For all we know it could be another five years.
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