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    As you can see, i'm pretty much like anyone else, but on the inside...i'm a little bit "madder" than most.

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    I like to pretend to be a Scientist.

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  1. theMADdestScientist_

    They should have taken Rhaegar captive

    Pretty much this. Robert had to kill Rhaegar or be killed by him. There was no way Robert would have been capable of taking Rhaegar as a hostage. Besides, Robert would have never let him live, as Robert wanted the throne that was supposed to be his.
  2. theMADdestScientist_

    How good of a match would Jaime and Lysa have been?

    Fully agreed sir.
  3. theMADdestScientist_

    How good of a match would Jaime and Lysa have been?

    No, but this time not because of Lysa. The problem with Lysa's marriage to Jon Arryn is that Littlefinger was a valeman as well, and Jon Arryn allowed him to get close to him and Lysa. If Lysa marries Jaime, then she has to go to the Westerlands, she most likely will never see Littlefinger ever again. Life at Casterly Rock would de far easier if compared to King's Landing, and Jaime was young while Jon Arryn was older than her own father. The problem here is Jaime though, Jaime would still be highly influenced by Cersei, and Jaime was a puppet before he lost his hand. Cersei might very well want her dead if she feels that Lysa is taking Jaime away from her.
  4. This is actually very plausible, but the Baratheon children were even closer related to Rhaegar, and their father was one of Aerys's closest friends as well. And yet, they never lived at court, but at Storm's End. This makes me think that instead of going to court because he was a distant relative of Rhaegar, Arthur could have come to King's Landing with a family member that simply decided to serve at court in some fashion. As for how they became close, the story pretty much paints Arthur as a man of honor, nobility and integrity. To put it simply, he was a rare kind in that pit of snakes they call King's Landing. That's probably what made Rhaegar like him and want to be his friend, or maybe it was Arthur who liked Rhaegar and wanted to be his friend. They didn't seem to be that different from one another, at least it seems that way. Barristan mentions that Arthur was helping Rhaegar with the tourney at Harrenhal. A tourney that was made to see what could be done about Aerys's mental health.
  5. theMADdestScientist_

    Do you think Cersi can stop the propecy?

    No, this is one thing that will not happen. Supposedly, the Lannisters killed his mother and sister, and were about to kill him too if hadn't been for Varys. Aegon has nothing to do with Quentyn's death, nor will Doran kill the blood of his own sister(if he indeed believes he is the son of Elia).
  6. theMADdestScientist_

    House Targaryen, the First Family of ASOIAF

    And so is everyone else rulling Westeros at this point. She isn't better or worse than anyone there, except maybe for Cersei, she is definitely better than Cersei.
  7. theMADdestScientist_

    In defense of Lady Lysa Arryn

    Have you paid attention at Lysa's behavior when Catelyn goes to the Vale with Tyrion? that's the harm her father did to her by marrying her to Jon Arryn. She cried a lot when she was married off to him, and Catelyn does not blame her for that, Jon Arryn was older than her father. And Hoster seems to regret what he did to her right until the end. Was Jon Arryn innocent though? yes, but he certainly was not a good husband, he couldn't possibly have been, he was too old for her. Lysa's behavior when we first meet her tells us what her life has been. Even as an evil act, she did had reasons to kill Jon, but in the end, she did it for Littlefinger. She just let herself be used, that's where I don't agree with her.
  8. theMADdestScientist_

    How did Ned learn where Lyanna was?

    It's funny that people are still debating this. I guess it makes sense, until George doesn't set something in stone, people will theorise until the end of days. But George has already said how Ned knew where Lyanna was, and why Ashara Dayne killed herself. They are all a part of the legend of Bael the Bard. What happened to Lyanna and Rhaegar and what happened to Ashara and Ned is all there. Rhaegar takes Lyanna, and her brother Brandon(her father in the legend of Bael) goes after Rhaegar. He does not find Bael, just as he does not find Rhaegar after he takes Lyanna. He doesn't get killed in the legend of Bael, while the Mad King kills him after he goes to the Red Keep. Ned, now the Lord of Winterfell(He is Bael in this part of the story, instead of Rhaegar who was Bael in the beginning) marches south to fight in the rebellion, and he wins. No, lover slew brother. This bit is about Ashara Dayne and how Ned, once her lover, killed her brother Arthur. "The gods hate kinslayers, even when they kill unknowing", got that? Ashara knew where her brother Arthur was, what she did not knew is what Arthur was truly doing. For Ashara, Elia's lady-in-waiting, what Arthur was doing for Rhaegar was completely wrong. Arthur had aided Rhaegar in "kidnapping" Lyanna, he tarnished his honor while harming the family of her once lover. Ashara told Ned where Lyanna was, and Ned proceeded to kill Arthur. Ned then brought back his sword(his head in the legend) to Ashara. He also brought a baby with him. Ashara then comes to the tragic realization that the man who(likely) impregnated her and left her for another woman(thanks to the war), the man she once loved, killed her brother with her help. Ashara Dayne became a kinslayer. Even worse, she also found out what Arthur was truly doing at the Tower of Joy, he wasn't keeping Ned's sister a hostage, he was protecting her son by Rhaegar from Ned's closest friend and ally: Robert Baratheon. Robert who condoned the butchering of Rhaegar's children and Elia Martell(her liege lord and friend). Ashara then kills herself by jumping from the tallest tower in Starfall after realizing what she had done. Another interesting connection is this one: The song about Bael the Bard normally ends when they find the babe(Jon). The darker ending to it is when Ned goes to Starfall, and Ashara Dayne realizes what she did.
  9. theMADdestScientist_

    In defense of Lady Lysa Arryn

    I'm no feminist, but I kind of don't blame Lysa for killing Jon Arryn either, what I don't agree is the reason why she killed him though. She did it because Littlefinger asked, so it's not something that came from her(despite she having all the reasons to do it), but from someone else. If she had done it by her own choice instead of doing it to please someone else, I would have agreed more with her.
  10. theMADdestScientist_

    Ashara and Ned match

    No, she isn't. Ashara was enough for Ned. Seeing how Rickard did his bussines, you can see that none of his kids wanted the match he made for them. We know how much Lyanna hated the match with Robert, and even if Barbrey Dustin is bitter, I do believe her that Brandon did not want to marry Catelyn. Because it does looks like Brandon to not want to marry Catelyn. Then you have Ned, would his father allow it? I don't think so. According to the ASOIAF APP, Rickard was an ambitious man, and he would not gain much by marrying his second son into house Dayne, who was too far from the North.
  11. theMADdestScientist_

    Could Rhaegar have fought for the other side?

    Robert did not burn his body. As Jorah notes, Robert just walked over his corpse and went to King's Landing. To burn the body of a fallen Targaryen is a tradition, and that was likely done by those who fought beside Rhaegar. Barristan Selmy most likely. Robert doesn't care about traditions, and he cares even less about Rhaegar's corpse.
  12. theMADdestScientist_

    Could Rhaegar have fought for the other side?

    These are two bastards already, it's a lot for a guy who isn't even married yet. And one of these bastards he sired in a brothel on his favorite whore while Lyanna was supposedly "in danger" according to Robert himself. The other thing is that he was a natural alcoholic, and we know what happened to Cersei thanks to his drinking. A woman will only get out winning with Robert Baratheon if she isn't his wife. But for a woman who marries Robert, she needs to be prepared. On long term, Robert will get tired of her(as he got tired of everything once he had a taste of it), and that's when he starts to piss on her dignity, and that's just the beginning as well.
  13. theMADdestScientist_

    Could Rhaegar have fought for the other side?

    Tell me, is a man of fathers bastards the same as a man who only fathered legitimate children with the woman he was told to marry? I don't think so. It surprises me how people think it is the same thing. Rhaegar did his duty for as long as he could, but is seems he cracked in the end. If it turns out that Rhaegar really "left" Elia for Lyanna, I can understand why Lyanna went with him. And for me, that's what happened.
  14. theMADdestScientist_

    Could Rhaegar have fought for the other side?

    Is she really that short-sighted? could she predict a bloody war that would tore the realm apart would happen because she chose her own path? no one would have been capable of predict that, even though they should. Also, at her age she could see things that even older and honorable Ned couldn't. As for the selfish part, her father betrothed her to a whoremonger, and what can she do about it? nothing. She is expected to marry Robert and live in constant shame like Cersei. It is quite an interesting scenario actually, I ask myself what the honorable Starks would do while one of their own is constantly humilliated. Looking at how Ned played down Roberts habits, they are likely to just watch and do nothing, even after the relationship has turned abusive. Rhaegar was in his early twenties. While his is a more serious case, I still don't blame him for not being capable of predicting the things that happened after his "adventure" with Lyanna started. I blame him for his choice of women.