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  1. The Sansa stuff is just horrendous, but it is the worst of an awful bunch. How can we forget Dorne (although in hindsight this is before they went all "Ellaria murders all of the Martells to avenge the dead Martells Oberyn and Elia"), King's Landing (again, better in retrospect before Cersei blew everything up)... oh, and D&D's constant hateboner for Stannis.
  2. I think I'd turn to the Brotherhood myself, what with their fighting against injustice on all levels. Apparently though, there's nothing at all that the Brotherhood could have against Dany...! There's a brilliant "Lannister honeypot" theory that they were playing LF with fake drama.... even though Arya actually threatened to cut Sansa's face off. And seemed to be the only person in Westeros dim enough to not comprehend the prospect of being forced to write a letter under duress.
  3. I mean the most show-breaking public relations character is definitely Cersei, imo. She starts her reign worse than Maegor. The smallfolk (Hot Pie) know she blew up the sept and committed kinslaying, deicide, the killing of a queen and a lord paramount, and the destruction of the realm's holiest site... and no riots in the streets, nothing. The crownlands and westerlands lords all follow her with no real anti-Cersei sentiment in her quarters.
  4. Yeah, I mean the show's idea that Cersei has a credible chance against Dany in season 7 is laughable. It's 3 dragons, all the Dothraki in the world, all the Unsullied in the world, Reach and Dornish forces largely unscathed from the War of the Five Kings, and Yara's stolen Ironborn fleet, vs. a depleted Lannister force from the War of Five Kings, and Euron's newly built fleet that took a few months and all of the Iron Island's non-existent trees to build. Dany could have taken KL at any moment, but it was "inhumane" to storm the city... well, besides from slowly starving out the people, that's your only option. Unless you want to make use of Varys's network of Red Keep tunnels to kidnap Cersei, I guess?
  5. "Both our fathers were terrible people, and you are kind of a shitty ruler." And then Dany names him Hand, and he (according to the script), apparently falls in love with her! Not to mention Dany is overwhelmingly portrayed as the indisputable good guy despite, oh, burning all of the Dothraki khals with a brazier.
  6. Roose did actually say that he would have to prepare for a Lannister invasion in Season 6, episode 1, I believe. Yep, a two-front war of their own making, for... I suppose Bolton kings in the north, with that never actually being declared.
  7. The problem is D&D writing her and LF to think marrying the Boltons will in any way pay off. If they haven't seen a trail of flayed corpses, then there is still no chance in the Seven Hells that they would think it would pay off with Stannis naming a Bolton by marriage the Warden of the North. Why not directly take Sansa to Castle Black and have her win over the mountain clans, by LF's logic?
  8. Also, the Worst Example of the Northern Lords' direction has to be Lyanna Mormont for me. Like they turned the letter meme into an annoying character, and apparently Jon's biggest supporter (she also apparently has no interest Sansa's claim to Winterfell despite being a female ruler herself...) Maege and Alysane could have worked as salvageable characters, but Lyanna Mormont's just a slightly less crap Olly, tbh. Also, where is your regent, ten-year-old ruler?
  9. My biggest gripe with the Northern Lords is Season 5, honestly. The Winterfell plotline in that season is so awful that it irritates me. Apparently, Ramsay marrying Sansa (the real Sansa) is this big show of the Boltons having a legitimate claim on the North, and getting lords on their side in their campaign against Stannis. Does that actually happen? Nope, there is not one Manderly to be seen, no Ryswells, no Umbers, no Lady Dustin. How can you have the wedding and just have Myranda present instead of the northern lords? Everything in the Season 5 scenario was contrived to build up a situation where Sansa was raped. Realistically, Littlefinger wouldn't have married her to Ramsay and thought that Stannis would name Roose's daughter-in-law Warden of the North after his defeat; Roose wouldn't have been the anti-Stannis, pro-Lannister candidate while marrying his son to Joffrey's alleged killer, and Sansa would have had several lords at her disposal at the wedding who could have recognised her as the legitimate Sansa and help her plan a coup against the Boltons. But nope, she's just a victim there for Theon to save.
  10. GRRM loves his ‘y’ sounds, but I don’t think of them differently than ‘i’s a lot of the time. I think Swyft should be pronounced ‘swift’, and Redwyne ‘red wine’, so Yronwood is probably ‘ironwood.’ Ynys Yronwood is so much less confusing as a name when it’s Inis Ironwood, not Eenees Eeronwood. But with all things ASOIAF, there is no real definitive pronunciation of many names as per GRRM.
  11. I think it's one of those mysteries about Valyria, alas. I can't find anything on that in the Valyria section of The World of Ice and Fire. Conceptually, you could theorise some rather cool ceremonies from that motif.
  12. Based on what we know about the founding of these houses, it probably is a councidence. House Tarly is said to be founded by the twin brothers Herndon of the Horn and Harlon the Hunter, legendary sons of Garth Greenhand. House Tully does not against a mention until the lords who fought under the Mudds and then bent the knee to the Andal warlord Armistead Vance, becoming Lords of Riverrun.
  13. While these aren't kings, per se, there are some other true hereditary monarchies, such as: The many principalities of the Summer Islands. Like Dorne, they seem to use the title "Prince(ss)" for all rulers, even for Xanda and Chatana Qo who briefly unified all of the isles. The Emperors of Yi Ti. And also the occasional Kings of the Stepstones, who are pirate kings.
  14. Explains the “drift” bit, yeah, was mostly focusing on the “mark” though.
  15. I am pretty sure we are supposed to think -hal is Hall, just like Barrowton is Barrow-Town, a town with barrows. In English, -mark denotes a border. Driftmark was sort of a border between the Valyrian Freehold and Westeros, so that makes sense. Ashemark is probably just ash + mark (border). While it's quite far into the westerlands, in earlier days the river kings claimed hilly regions nearby, so they'd probably have to defend the border quite a lot. And since the sigil of House Marbrand is a burning tree, there are probably regular ashes in the region from regular forest fires, for example.
  16. To me, this seems an instance of Early Installment Weirdness from A Game of Thrones - i.e., something that seems strange with later information that comes to fruition. Still, it seems reasonable to not let a child be Warden. The Warden titles signify someone is supposed to protect the region martially, and in AFFC: So, if a female ruler may name someone else Warden, it seems likely that a child may not be given a title like that - it could go to the closest male relative, and failing that (since the poor/Gulltown branches only exist for the Arryns) a capable vassal like Lord Royce. Still, the fuss over the Warden title largely seems odd in retrospect, since I don't think anyone would expect Sweetrobin to mount a defence against an Essosi invasion - the title has really become a ceremonial Arryn title. And it makes a lot less sense for Jaime to be considered for the title, unless Robert is going to appoint him to be in the Vale doing something (certainly he wouldn't appoint him to guard the unacknowledged Mya Stone...)
  17. I do not remember deleting this family tree, Thomaerys. Looking at the history, I made an edit a few weeks ago (Jan 8) to probably change the death date or location or something like that, and the most recent edits have been yours.
  18. Hi cristina1996, did you post in this subforum? https://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/forum/121-wiki-account-registration/ (I believe regular users cannot see posts there, only staff) I think it depends on how long it takes for the staff to see it and make an account for you. Then I think you should get an email (on the address you used to sign up for A Forum of Ice and Fire) giving you a temporary password. Hope this helps!
  19. Implemented all of these, thanks. I haven't added the battles yet though, as I'm relatively new and do not really want to add a battle without a proper name in the text. I made the section "Casualties of the Shivers"because characters killed by the Great Spring Sickness are "Casualties of the Great Spring Sickness." I have fixed this; he is now the eldest son. The The World of Ice and Fire trees do contradict stuff in F&B and the main novels, for instance, Rhaella being called Rhalla, Daenerys daughter of Jaehaerys being a son called Aeryn, Rhaena's marriage to Androw Farman, Rhae and Daella's marriages and children mentioned by Aemon, and Cersei not being listed as a ruling lady of Casterly Rock (in my version at least)
  20. Hey all I am Vaith, someone who's had a lot of time on their hands to go through F&B and create pages for the new characters, locations, houses, etc. That will probably be my main focus, though I have already began to make little edits to pages concerning the main novels too, and have made some new categories etc. I have some experience in wiki-editing (mostly over at the Doctor Who wiki) and am already fairly confident about how stuff works. Nice to meet all of you
  21. I would definitely second an effort to try and re-open some of the closed characters, as well as trying to schedule more regular +events in a little while: I have mostly seen that be used for big events rather than anything else and would certainly do my best to submit more "slice-of-life"/networking events: a dance in the queen's ballroom, an open salon, giving patronage to a famous weaver or musician (about how wonderful our characters are), and maybe some player run tournaments as that's always a pull for activity. Plus some rather run of the mill events like bowls or a darts contest in the Three Hills Inn, even though I know casual stuff can be boring to some. Have no objections with Durance's proposals either and they certainly seem rather fun to get involved in. That Greenblood plot sounds very fun too and could work when Rayne and I hammer out something to do with trade with Vaith. In terms of another suggestion, I suppose this would be a little more ambitious, but I was going through I think an in-game AMA log for TWOIAF, and Bal mentioned a plot about a "reverse Marco Polo" at some point i.e. a YiTish scholar coming to court to chronicle the tales of the barbarians out west. Could be a fun element while kickstarting the social scene at court, so that people could explore their prejudices, interests in lands afar, and trying to put on a good show for this envoy who might tell his people of the barbarous westerners with their zealous king, royal incest and some likely hilarious interpretations of our characters.
  22. Another idea for a rather big martial plot could be having a private war take place. The most obvious candidate is Meadows, as Lord Robett still does not have an heir named in the family tree, and there's Elyse and Rymella as PCs from that house. It could be a pretty fun event, similar to the Blackwood/Bracken private war in Riverrun that went down some years ago. The situation is quite complicated with several possible candidates who might be backed depending on who the crown/Highgarden supports, what was in Robett's will, familial connections, and succession law. Of course there'd be an onus on those from that house, so it's only one suggestion I hear there are rumours that the Masseys could have something similar on their hands one day, if the population dares go back to Stonedance... As for recruiting, perhaps it would be possible for players to submit chargens for NPCs? Having a quick DB search, there are only 12 available pre-made men in KL between the most popular ages of 15-25; 5 for women, and most are leaning towards the older end. It could also help if a house has a certain idea in mind for one of their members; instead of impinging on a potential CGer, they could go ahead and submit a sheet for the character in question, and would perhaps increase the chances of that character getting recruited to the house.
  23. In King's Landing proper On the Baelor events that haven't happened yet (that could be fodder for roleplay), there's Baelor donating a loaf of bread to every man and woman for a year: perhaps that's just about to be announced? It could be a fun hook for some to head down to Flea Bottom to show piety genuine or feigned, and perhaps start some fashionable charity: there could be visits to orphanages, or funding erudite institutions like grammar schools if they exist in the setting (as a PC who's just about to marry into the Hightowers that would be particularly appealing). There's also the book burnings which I did have a plot for but never really took off. A lot of PCs have an erudite side to them so that could lead to drama in some capacity. Miscellaneous things could be the outrage of having old Lord Belgrave wash the feet of a leper and earning the contempt of a lot of the PCs, and the rumours of Baelor praying over a dragon egg for half a year. In the crownlands One idea I had in mind was gathering more of the raw material for Baelor's sept, especially timber, from the Kingswood. The loggers would naturally fall under attack from bandits and the wild at some point, though maybe they manage to actually bring a livelihood to the forest for a bit, with its people having some source of employment other than banditry to turn to: everyone loves drama but the smallfolk did love Baelor, so there could be a bit of a nice plot of building up the region in some capacity (so it can come under attack at a later date)! The second idea isn't based out of anything much other than the issue of witches in the Kingswood and the growing hostility to those of other religions at the end of Baelor's reign. It's a little crackpot to an extent, but would rely on Crackclaw Point starting to believe some of their more eldritch faiths such as the "squishers." I believe it's implied that the regions like the Point and the Sisters remember the pre-First Men religion more than others, and so a resurgence of some crazed heathens that need to be put down would be nice -- but this of course is a little more outlandish than others. Of course there are also the other resident eldritch heathens, the Ironborn. Maybe their embassy is "politely" asked to leave in light of the Dornish embassy going home and Baelor's increasing fervor, and they start brewing trouble across the realm. I have some ideas for Dorne too, but I'll get the ideas together and submit them for public discussion some other time :) And hopefully more KL ideas will come to me too!
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