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  1. I think Aegon will prove to be a fantastic link that ties the Blackfyre history to the main series. Whether it's Varys, Illyrio, or Young Griff himself, I fully expect some kind of "secret Black Dragon" revelation to come from their camp. While many readers might consider Young Aegon too late an addition to be any sort of a real "endgame player", we should consider the fact that the Blackfyre Rebellions have been a part of the overall lore of the series for many years, with the Tales of Dunk and Egg in particular being both Blackfyre heavy as well as some of the most beloved material amongst the fandom. I think the potential reveal of Aegon and the Golden Company, as well as Varys and Illyrio, having a more Blackfyre heavy sentiment/heritage could give us readers a tonne of entertaining possibilities to play with, as well as helping to solve a few of the mysteries associated with Daemon I, Bittersteel, Maelys and Co. Aegon's connection to Dorne should not be discounted either. As the son of Elia, who the beloved Red Viper died trying to avenge, as well as a dragon blooded descendent of the first Daenarys, there is a good chance the "Lost Dragon" will have most of the spears of Dorne on his side - which brings with it a way to help further the various Martell agendas and plotlines.
  2. I'd like to see a Summer Islander like Koja Mo discussing Sothoryos at some in the next to books. Koja is a sea faring adventurer, from a culture which is noted for holding discovery and learning in high regard, and I think it would be very interesting to hear what the Captain of the Cinnamon Wind would have to say about the mysterious giant continent. Being somewhat close geographically, I'd imagine there would be many philosophers, scholars, and merchants on the Summer Isles who would have quite interesting opinions and legends regarding Sothoryos. What might the people of the Isles think when they hear stories associated with Sothoryos like "Yeen being older than time", "tall, clawed lizards who walk like man" and "plagues of bat sized wyvern". Would the threat of physical harm in these stories, and others, be enough to keep the Islanders from wanting to explore places like Yeen or the Green Hell? There are rumours in TWOIAF that certain explorers from the Isles may have mapped parts of the continent, only to keep these maps secret from the rest of the world. I can certainly imagine there has been at least a few attempts by several inhabitants of Walano, Koj etc. Look at how much Asshai and the ruins of Valyria interest people in Essos, with several documented/claimed attempts at exploring/visiting these hellholes appearing in the text; I think it would be odd if the Summer Islanders didnt at least try (and succeed) to find out more about this giant, not too distant land which is surrounded by bonkers stories and apparently uncontested by man. Considering what we have seen so far with the golden heart bows and swan ships, I wouldn't be too surprised if the Summer Islanders' ingenuity and craftsmanship had helped them to actually build a few successful settlements on coastal (and perhaps inland) areas of southern Sothoryos - Jenara and Terrax have presumably been dead for quite some time now, so the possibility remains that someone else has successfully found the "bottom" of the continent, and built a home upon the land.
  3. I'd like to hear more about this idea, seems like a pretty cool take which I've not seen. A COTF splinter cell makes me think of something like the Ifequevron, but I don't find it likely that they were responsible for the creation of the Others.Perhaps the difference between certain the red and green eyed COTF could suggest some kind of cultural differences, but one might expect blue eyes if we are talking about a parent figure for the Cold Shadows. Don't worry, you're speaking my local tinfoilish dialect :-p While foil may be tinny, I do think your idea of the COTF mentally influencing human belief systems is an extremely strong possibility. The Children apparently taught the First Men to believe in the Old Gods, so one imagines they would have quickly recognised the power and influence which religion can hold over humans. In this case, I think its highly plausible they would see the value in creating different deitys for the humans to fear. In terms of more recent activity regarding the COTF and human religions, we know some Wok Nak Dag Gram, such as Leaf, ventured South of Wall during the Targaryen era. This, combined with the abilities of Bloodraven himself, leaves the potential for all sorts of faith based skinchanging, whispering and shenanigans. Nicely put. If all men must die then I wonder what the likes of the Kindly Man or Jaquen would think of the stories surrounding the Others' enthrallment the dead. Terms like "an afront to our beliefs", "abomination" and "heresy" spring to mind. If the Faceless Men were to somehow view compelling enough evidence of a wight, perhaps this could be enough for the House of Black to join the fight against the coming cold. @kissdbyfire In regards to the concepts of the Others' society and culture, what's your opinion on the theorised "laughter" they displayed during the duel with Waymar Royce? Analysing a society's sence of humour can be a great way to understand their overall culture, so I wonder, what it was they found so funny in this situation? Was it "jock" style humour in the sense of "haha, this little dweeby human totally ain't as athletic as me!"? Maybe it was some kind of "obnoxious blacksmith" type-thing where the Cold Shadows regarded Waymar's daft human sword in the same way one of us might look at a dodgy 80s movie which is "so bad, it's good". The Others are described to have a certain "beauty" and "elegance", so perhaps they were laughing because they simply find beauty in death, comedy in tragedy.
  4. Hard to pick at the moment, but the Op really gets the imagination going, so I'll offer some random musings. The "genetically engineered by the COTF" take does pose many questions, as the Children have been promoted as so connected natural life, to the point where it can sometimes seem odd that they would create a species which seemingly has such an adverse effect on animal and plant based lifeforms. If the COTF did create the White Walkers to do battle with the First Men, one has to wonder how the little tree people might have debated such a course of action before they made the final decision. If they knew exactly how these genetic constructs would turn out, how would they justify risking the rest of Planetos, just to defeat the FM? Perhaps some Greenseer caught a glimpse of a future where humans had destroyed the natural world anyway, leading the COTF to try and "get them before they get us". Then again, if the White Walkers were created by the Children to be a weapon against the FM, I wonder how much the idea of revenge might have came into play. The First Men are said to have nearly wiped out their plant loving rivals - might it then be possible that the Children wanted to take a kind of Aerys II like "to hell with the city/forest - burn/freeze them all!" approach to dealing with the enemies who had them on the brink of defeat? How many murdered loved ones might it take for a Child Of The Forest to finally snap? If we are talking society or creation, I've often wondered how these "ice demons" might link to, or interact with, the multiple "higher power" figures seen in human society, specifically a theorised "water deity" like the Drowned God. If the Others are aware of humanities various belief systems - which they could be, assuming the "wighting" of a corpse allows the Walkers access to the memories of the deceased - would they have an opinion on the humans worshipping a water god? How might they view the overall connection between water and ice? Hell, if there really is a Drowned God, what might he think of the Others? Might it even be possible that the Ironborn deity somehow created White Shadows, with the intention of conquering the land as he had the deep? Freeze the earth, melt the ice, and flood the world, giving us one great ocean? A bit of a tinfoil laden proposal, and while I don't prescribe to this idea myself, I do believe the Others' connection to certain gods and concepts are worth looking at. Think of a god like He of Many Faces, aka the God of Death. This goes back to the "water or ice coming first " line of thinking, but how might the cold and darkness associated with The Others link to a proposed deity who is said to represent death itself? I'm not sure, but I can't really see the Faceless Men, or their God, being responsible for the creation of the Others. That said, the connection between ice and death is certainly interesting - corpses go cold, after all. While corpses do go cold, the cold itself can also preserve, both the living and the dead. The potential then arrises for the Others themselves being - depending on how you look at it - a more "positive" force. Perhaps they are an example of some mad-scientist-type perverting the course of nature, or perhaps they are an example someone or something g producing a way to "keep death at bay" through the preservative qualities of ice, as well as the Cold Shadows' ability to reanimate corpses. So far we have seen the Others being able to "make the dead walk", so I must ask, how far do we think these abilities go? Can they merely telepathically control "zombies"? Or might the Others also be able to truley breath life into the dead? Where does the reanimation stop and the resurrection begin?
  5. Yeah, I guess these two points would reduce the chances of Littlefinger trying to organise some kind of jailbreak, as it might be a bit too much legwork to arrange the Kettleblacks escape from separate prisons held by competing factions. If Osmund is already considered dead weight then he's almost certainly screwed.
  6. I don't doubt it, but Bran seems primed to develop such immense abilities that there is something to be said for having Meera as a POV so as to help give a more relatable perspective to the supernatural events unfolding in the far North. If Bran does indeed "Jack into the matrix" and gain access to all the knowledge held within the Weirwood net, there's a high probability it will change his personality to the point that his actions and motivations become something totally beyond human. In this event, I'd like to read Meera's thoughts and fears on about what's happening. I also really enjoyed the atmosphere which was built from seeing Meera and Jojens reactions to Bran and his plight. We would still get all that from Bran's POVs, but I think eventualy adding a few Reed chapters (not too many) would help enhance the tension and horror aspects of things. I wonder if we will actually get a few weirwood based Bran flashbacks where Howland is prominently featured? The Neck could be great for the swamp itself, as well as the natural predators such as lizard lions, crocodiles and other large carnivores, all of which could perhaps act as a form of defense against any wights that the Others might send into the area. As you said, the heat and water found in the Neck could also be a great natural detergent to the White Walkers. I've wondered about the whole Hodor/Bran-Meera thing. Such behaviour would surely be frowned upon by many skinchangers, so I wonder how Bloodraven would react. Also, do you think Osha would work as a POV? Even if just as a prologue/epilogue? It could be good to get a solid account of Shaggydog and Rickon's behaviour and growth since they last appeared.
  7. Why do you think Littlefinger will order Brune to kill Oswell? I'd imagine old Kettleblack wouldn't bee too happy if Littlefinger refused to try help the man's sons be released, but would his rage really result in a situation where LF felt the need to have him killed? There is a great chance Oswell might be just as cruel as his boys, leaving them to rot while he continues to reap whatever rewards his association with Petyr brings. Then again, if the three young, able bodied, tough guy sons are no longer able to serve a purpose in the Red Keep, perhaps there is no need for Lord Baelish to keep the dodgy old father around. I'd be interested to see if LF actually could get them out of the Red Keep dungeons. Perhaps he has a few jailers in his pocket who could help. The question is, why would he want to? The Kettleblacks seem to have served their immediate purpose in that they gave Baelish access to Cersei, while also helping add to the Queen Regent's downfall. With them now being imprisoned, LF might begin to consider the possibility that the brothers will rat him out to Cersei.
  8. Mance would be a very entertaining choice. It would be great to hear his memories of things like his uniting of the various Wilding clans, as well as learning Moore about his situation with Mel. The battle of Winterfell from the perspective of the former Wilding boss could be very tasty indeed. I think Meera could be pretty useful as a POV, as she would give us a second opinion on the whole Last Greenseer situation. Meera would be able to give us her perspective on the general importance placed upon Bran, as well as allowing us another pair of eyes with which to explore the cave and bare witness to whatever transformation Bran goes through. In terms of the big Howland Reed reveal, I can't ever see George making him a POV, so his daughter having a few chapters of her own could be very helpful in terms of allowing the reader get to know the Lord of Greywater better, as well as expanding our knowledge of Crannogi culture in general. While Meera having her own chapters might work better after Howland debuts, so as not to potentially give away anything to o juicy, it would be insightful to hear what it was like growing up in the Swamp. What kind of parents were Howland and the oddly named Jyana? How did Lord Reed first explain to his kids about their mission with Bran? I feel Meera could be a great window through which we could take a look at the Reed family and the people of The Neck, and help paint a clearer picture of their ways and wants.
  9. While any POV based around the Leech Lord would be fun, a Roose Bolton POV covering the Battle of Winterfell could be absolutely outrageous. Replace Meera with whichever POV dies in the battles of Winterfell or Mereen. While it'd probably work better if she didn't reveal/know too much about Howland and his grand plans, I think a few Meera chapters could be a lot of fun, and a great way to flesh out a cool character who is both highly significant to the plot and popular with the fan base.
  10. @Lollygag Interesting analysis as always. The connections between LF/Harrenhal/Kettleblacks and Bravos you listed are all cool and I wonder where this all leads. In terms of the name "Kettleblack" if viewed through a Harrenhal inspired lense, it works nicely as a hint towards Black Harrens Hubris - considering how Balerion's fires famously turned the castle into a giant black furnace during the Conquest. I wonder how Jon Snow's election victory at Castle Black - featuring a black bird flying out of a Kettle - might also have some parallels to Harenhal, Oswell and Co. Mormont's raven emerging from the dark cook pot brings to mind the sigil ravens of the former Harenhal ruling houses, Lothston and Whent. As you mentioned earlier, Oswell Whent has certain Kettleblack qualities to him and vice versa, so there could be something there. I have to wonder how the Harenhal, Baratheon and LF connections with the Kettleblacks you mentioned might also relate to the awesome recent post by @three-eyed monkey regarding Robert Strong possibly being an actual shadow of the Mountain (check it out if you guys haven't already, a genuinely thought provoking, entertaining read) Could the name "Kettleblack" perhaps be looked at as a metaphor for "shadow womb"? Kettles and wombs are each a form of gestation zone, where the respective contents (foetuses or food/drink) go through a development process. When thinking of the black blood and shadow oozing from Lady Mel, I can't help but think of the words "Kettleblack". Consider the subtle parallels between Qyburn, Lady Mel and the Kettleblack brothers.We have the above "shadow womb" angle which fits with both Mel and the potential shadow binding being done by Qyburn. Another point is that the Red Queen, Qyburn and the KB bros are all alike in the nature of their rapid rises to prominence. Each came out of seemingly nowhere and find themselves in the inner circles of various "royal" figures - Qyburn and the KBs with Cersei/Mel with Stannis. There is also the fact that all three parties first appear in the three locations associated with Aegon the Conquerer - Harenhal, Dragonstone and King's Landing. Let's also consider the draining, negative affect which a night of sex with Lady Mel or the Kettleblack brothers has been shown to cause. Mel needed Stannis' seed for her shadow baby, the aftermath of which caused the King to begin to look like a haggard, gaunt "shadow" of himself. Meanwhile, Osmund and his siblings have been sleeping with Queen, and Cersei's public confession of the fact has left her public reputation in a similar state to the Mannis' appearance. We know the Kettleblacks have some other similarities to the shadow connected Baratheon boys, such as the their mutual status as trios, appearance, Stormlander status, questionable personalities and bedding of the Cersei. Two of Oswells's sons are also currently awaiting death by Robert Strong, he who is named for Robert Baratheon as well a potentially being a similar product of shadow binding to Stannis and Melisande's baby/Renly's murderer. Ser Robert has also pretty much taken the Kettleblack trio's role as Cersei's main protector. A sworn sword can also be looked at as "shadowing" whoever they are sworn to protect. The dark haired KBs could also visually be compared to shadows. Robert's handler Qyburn seems to be in charge of the Red Keep dungeons in which the hooked nosed Stormlanders are being held, which is interesting in itself, and makes one wonder just how the mad scientist could use the KBs to his advantage, be it through cutting a deal or cutting open a body. @Lollygag I'm not sure where this Kettleblack/shadow womb idea could lead, but another way to take it could be "hidden/shaded child", which fits with your remarks about Old Kettleblack's employer, LF, collecting various bastards. Also, if Cersei has indeed fallen pregnant by one of the Kettleblacks, as many have postulated, one could also refer to the contents of her womb being "black", considering the KB name and social status, as well as the potential hair colour of the kid and the fact she would probably try and keep it a secret. Perhaps her heavy drinking and gigantic stress could even cause her to miscarry (a situation several others have also pondered), which would no doubt draw some kind of "black womb" based, whispered insults if any of her enemies found out.
  11. Hey everyone. I'd like to know what you think the future has in store for the ever charming Kettleblacks lads, Osmund, Osfryd and Osney, as well as their dodgy old dad, Oswell. Currently languishing in the dungeons of the Red Keep, having been revealed to have all had sexual relations with the Queen regent. as well as one of them being declared guilty of killing the high septon, the three brothers await some form of death by either Robert Strong or Illyn Payne. With their father seemingly safe and sound serving Littlefinger in the Vale, one wonders what the old man's opinion on his son's imprisonment might be?
  12. Dany, Tyrion and Jon. While one/all three could eventually become villains/antagonists, as it stands I feel GRRM has clearly written these three to be the main heroes/protagonists of the tale.
  13. @Seams - very nice catch with the Q based characters serving as teacher figures. Audibly, the word has some interesting puns. To "queue" is to wait in line for something - mentor figures could be said to be waiting for their apprentice to develop. Another way to look at this would be a DJ "queuing" up records and progressively moving the music along, similar to a sensei The term "cue" also has a mentor like quality to it, think of an actor having a "cue to speak". Also, as out of place as the reference may seem, James Bond's Gadget Man is known as "Q" - short for "Quartermaster". This feels like a very important piece of the puzzle. Great work, Detective! That Molten anagram is very thought provoking, while the Lamentation anagram feels like something which could hint at serious business, considering the sword belongs to the myth heavy, runic Royces. Impressive work linking the "pits" material. I suppose one could say that Dany somewhat "attained her lemon (tree)" in the fighting pits - The Blood of The Dragon is most at home in the air, with a dragon, after all. Do you have any further theories regarding your lemon-based catches?
  14. Anyone catch Godzilla: Planet of The Monsters? Enjoyed the art style and thought the plot was a fresh take on the big guy's story.
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