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  1. He is, but he's also promoting the ideas and policies of a white nationalist minus the antisemitism. Just because they would never accept him doesn't mean he doesn't want to be one of them. ETA and his uncle has publicly rebuked him in an editorial, his grandmother was a Holocaust survivor and refugee.
  2. Agreed, and I don't think the last thing the right condemned as antisemitic on her part was antisemitic (calling Stephen Miller a white nationalist, because obviously he holds those beliefs and wants to join that club), and I honestly saw nothing about this from anyone but those on right/Republicans and I think it's important to say this particular thing wasn't antisemitic as well as call out the racism and islamophobia directed towards her by Trump and friends.
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    U.S. Politics: Impoverished In Squalor

    There are trolls or bots promoting this on Jewish social media, but people have been mocking them and most Jews I know who vote Democratic would not consider voting Republican, though if the Democratic Party becomes like the U.K. Labour Party in terms of antisemitism I'm not sure what would happen.
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    Atwood's 'The Handmaid’s Tale' on Hulu

    Yes that's all very disturbing to think about. A lot of people like to joke that The Hnadmaid's Tale is a utopia for Pence and I think that's probably not far from the truth.
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    Atwood's 'The Handmaid’s Tale' on Hulu

    Yes they explain it through bits and pieces in the series and book
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    US Politics: The Accountability Problem

    I think there can be critique of Israel and AIPAC and BDS etc without being antisemitic, but it probably needs to involve more nuance than most people seem willing to give and definitely more than a tweet of a few words. I think it's definitely fair to say tha AIPAC and it's lobbying power and it's unquestioning support of Israel is bad for the situation, but because MCs get so much more money from other groups and people than from AIPAC involved Jewish donors (perhaps people like Wasserman Schultz are an exception, though in her case I doubt she would have different beliefs) I find it difficult to believe that most Democratic MCs support Israel because of some Jewish donors, I think it's probably because most Americans, including most Democratic voters (this is changing, but still true) support Israel. AIPAC and it's link to donors may lead to less criticism of Israel, though this seems to be changing as Senate Democrats recently blocked an anti-BDS bill. I think it would probably be good for MCs to understand that most American Jews oppose settlements and many oppose the occupation. A lot of the rhetoric about Soros is absolutely antisemitic. It be useful too if there was a more uniform definition of anti-Zionism, because some people use it for being critical of Israel and others use it for being against the entire existence of Israel (and I think if someone is against self determination for Jews, but supports it for other people (like Catalan, Scotland, Palestine, Tibet, Kurds etc) that is antisemitic, if they're opposed to all nation states (so including many Europe and Asian countries like Japan, Korea, Denmark, Finland etc) then not). Perhaps coining a new word to differentiate this would be useful. I think it would also be useful if anti-zionists who aren't antisemites paid more attention to the company they keep, palling around with groups like Hamas is not a good way to convince people it's not just disguised antisemitism (and to be clear that wasn't a reference to Omar, as far as I know she doesn't hang out with Hamas). I think there's a general lack of intellectual honesty on both sides of this issue generally and not enough nuance.
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    US Politics: The Accountability Problem

    Several years ago she tweeted that "Israel has hypnotized the world". Jews as malign sorcerers is another old antisemitic theme. It should be noted that within the past couple weeks she has acknowledged this tweet was antisemitic and apologized. In an interview I saw I thought she seemed genuinely apologetic and committed to leaning more about antisemism and changing her own antisemitic beliefs and stereotypes. After the benjamins thing I'm not so sure anymore.
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    US Politics: The Accountability Problem

    Benjamins is well known slang for $100 bills (because Benjamin Franklin is on them), "it's all about the benjamins" means "it's all about money". Jews and money, Jews being rich, Jews using money to secretly manipulate or control things are all extremely old and common themes in antisemitism.
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    US Politics: The Accountability Problem

    You should stop strawmanning. I did not say and I have not seen anyone else say that all criticism of AIPAC or Israel is antisemitic, using old antisemitic canards to criticize Israel and AIPAC is what makes her tweets antisemitic.
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    US Politics: The Accountability Problem

    I didn't say that criticizing AIPAC makes someone antisemitic, in fact in my original post (which you quoted several posts ago) I very clearly said that one can criticize them without being antisemitic. What made it antisemitic was the "its all about the benjamins" which dog whistles the antisemitic canard of Jews with money manipulating things behind scenes. You all are completely strawmanning me here.
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    US Politics: The Accountability Problem

    Well there is general consensus among the many Jews I know (mostly left wing and secular, some left wing and orthodox and a few centrist) that it's antisemitic, obviously there's not 100% agreement because that just doesn't happen, and many of us (including me) don't think that she's irredeemably antisemitic . But I believe that we Jews have the right to decide what's antisemitic, just as black people have the right to decide what's racist towards them.
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    US Politics: The Accountability Problem

    Trump is absolutely antisemitic, there have been numerous comments over the years. The comment you're referring to happened at some Jewish Republican donor group event. I'm not sure why you think I'm a Trump supporter. Because I criticize something Omar said I must automatically be a Trump supporter? Trump should resign or be impeached for many things.
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    US Politics: The Accountability Problem

    The concept of Jews as behind the scenes manipulators using their large amounts of money to get what they want is absolutely antisemitic. And that's exactly what her tweet dog whistled. I don't know if she meant or understood it that way, but certainly both Jews who condemned it and the antisemites who defended her understood it that way. No it's not antisemitic to point out AIPACs influence as a lobbying organization, what made it antisemitic was the "its all about the benjamins" bit. I think it is important to keep in mind that several years ago she tweeted that "Israel has hyponitized the world" which is also antisemitic, she has apologized for this and discussed her learning curve with this, I found her to be sincere, but clearly she has a lot to learn. ETA, also in my original post I called it a strong lobby which isn't denying its influential. And you can make a lot of fair criticism, including that they likely make peace in Israel and Palestine more difficult, but shadowy cabals of Jews controlling the world with money, no. And we have so much and control everything, where is (((my))) check?
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    US Politics: The Accountability Problem

    It's not the truth. AIPAC isn't a PAC and doesn't donate to political campaigns, they're a lobby, a strong one, but are maybe #20 overall. It's entirely possible to criticize AIPAC, Israel, Netanyahu etc without being antisemitic, but this, this kind of linkage to money and greed was absolutely antisemitic whether that's what she intended or not.
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    Up in Smoke: Drug Legalization and Dealing

    I don't think bootleggers are held in high regard in the US, maybe bathtub gin makers or people who operated speakeasies which have less of a connection with gangsters in popular imagination.