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  1. I guess I expect things to work from a reasoning/psychological standpoint, physics not-so-much (this is fantasy we're talking about), though if things are shown working one way, the rules should remain consistent (ie Daenerys should have been flying around naked at some point during The Bells since her clothes always burn off). "Smokey, this isn't 'Nam; this is bowling, there are rules."
  2. If the Iron Throne was an accidental victim, how did Drogon miss? In theory, wouldn't he just start blasting wherever until he burned whatever he was trying to hit?
  3. Well, there's a bunch of things wrong with Dorne that just got lumped into whatever was wrong with the last half of Game of Thrones. However, one miscue that annoys me is why Trystane chose to fight Nymeria instead of Obara and let the latter out of his line of sight so she could turn his head into a shish-kebab. Despite her reputation as being the warrior of the Sand Snakes, Obara is clearly the weakest of the Sand Snakes when it comes to fighting, as she's only able to fight a one-handed man to a standstill and only nets kills whenever her target is immobilized (the ship captain) or distracted (Trystane). When she comes face-to-face with Euron, she goes down quite easily.
  4. Which is what I was saying that if the Tyrells stepped out of line, the Florents, connected to the Baratheons through marriage, could be raised to Lords of the Reach. The other common narrative on here is that it was Robert's idea of a joke.
  5. Túrin is an interesting case, as Tolkien leaves it up in the air whether or not it's Morgoth's curse that causes Túrin so much misery or Túrin's own flaws, like his pride and his temper. He could have chosen to accept Thingol's pardon but did not because he was unwilling to humble himself. He could have chosen to listen to Ulmo's emissaries but did not because he believed that open warfare was the best way to fight Morgoth, leading to the Fall of Nargothrond.
  6. It's a question that I've speculated about numerous times over the years, particularly since Selyse is rather low on the totem pole for the Florents (the daughter of a third son). The main theories are that Jon Arryn arranged it as a threat to the Tyrells; if they step out of line Robert or Jon can oust the Tyrells and put a puppet like the Florents in their place. It wouldn't be the first time Jon arranged a match for politics that wasn't happy. The other is that Robert arranged the match just to troll Stannis; give him an unattractive wife, I could care less what he thinks if he objects, etc.
  7. In a similar vein to the Who was Master of Laws before Renly thread, who was on the Kingsguard before Arys Oakheart? From AFFC, the readers know that Oakheart became a Kingsguard in roughly 290 AC (the last time he'd touched a woman). After Robert's Rebellion, five Kingsguard needed to be found since Lewyn Martell and Jonothor Darry were KIA at the Battle of the Trident and Lord Commander Gerold Hightower, Arthur Dayne, and Oswell Whent were slain at the Tower of Joy. Two Kingsguard are holdovers from the reign of Aerys II: Barristan Selmy (promoted to Lord Commander) and Jaime Lannister. The four other slots other than Arys that are filled by 298 AC (when AGOT starts) are Meryn Trant, Boros Blount, Mandon Moore, and Preston Greenfield. So who had the other spot, some bloke who was KIA in Greyjoy's Rebellion or died shortly afterward?
  8. I remember I did a thread on this concept awhile back that the phrase rings hollow. Edit: It's right here.
  9. What type of scrappy? Like the determined, dedicated scrappy or the TV tropes scrappy (a character who’s widely disliked by the fandom; read: Jar-Jar)?
  10. In the case of Arya, would her arc have been satisfied with her death via two ways: Dying while killing the Night King. She had no impact for the rest of the season (note that everyone who died that episode didn’t have an arc or fulfilled it in that episode) and it would have underscored the cost of beating back the Army of the Dead: your favorite characters may and will die, one of the various messages of the series: anyone can die. Alternatively, if she had died in various ways during The Bells, ie being flattened by the fleeing people or burned to a crisp, which would play up the message the showrunners were pushing that revenge is futile? Seriously, what was the point of keeping her alive if she had no purpose to fill in the plot?
  11. In that love and desire (romantic, familial, etc.) causes trouble for everyone? Yes, multiple cases. As Lancelot's love for Guinevere causes the downfall of Camelot: Rhaegar's love for Lyanna (if it was indeed love) causes the downfall of his family and the decimation of hers, Catelyn's love for her children leads her into being duped into starting a war and later freeing Jaime, her family's only bargaining chip, leaving nothing to hold his family back from killing her, Robb, and Talisa, Robb's love for Talisa (show only) directly causes his death because he broke the marriage pact with Walder Frey, Sansa's love for Joffrey blinds her to his vile nature so that once she realizes what he is, she's trapped in an abusive relationship, Jaime's brotherly and romantic love for Cersei led to him committing treason by siring three children on her and later led to his death because he was unwilling to let her die in King's Landing; Tyrion's love for Shae blinds him to the possibility that she would betray him, Loras and Renly's mutual devotion causes them to declare the latter King, unnecessarily complicating the succession crisis (Show only)Brienne's love and loyalty to Renly drive her to seek petty revenge against the wounded and defenseless Stannis, nearly causing her charge Sansa to be captured and tortured to death. Ned and Jon's desire to protect the innocent (Robert's "children" in Ned's case, everyone in Jon's case) leads directly to their death. In the former case Ned's choice to play fair with Cersei directly causes his death. (Show only) Jon's love for Daenerys blinds him to what she could do if in the worst emotional state. (Show only) Ellaria's love for her paramour Oberyn leads her to murder an innocent young girl, ove(rthrow Oberyn's family, and eventually the deaths of her paramour's daughters, including her own daughter Tyene (plus probably hers) Conversely, Bran the Three-Eyed Raven, the man who loves nobody, winds up on top.
  12. Perhaps to them, more physical stuff is cooler, like jumping Snowy Darth Maul is cooler than sharing minds with animals. Though by that token Cersei should have had an epic duel with Arya…
  13. Jon killed Daenerys, not Tyrion. Though Tyrion bears some measure of responsibility for persuading Jon to do it. As far as who Sansa loves, I’m not sure outside of Joffrey and we all know what happened with that. By the end of ASOS Sansa’s seemingly accepted that no one loves her and she’s trying to make stuff up in her head to stave off loneliness, like the UnKiss.
  14. There’s a joke that Catelyn wrote the ending so that all the Stark kids get what they want while Jon gets the boot.
  15. Well, GRRM said Tyrion's his favorite character, why not pander him to what we think our favorite character should act, you know?
  16. Jon only kills one woman, that's Daenerys. Olly (one of those characters nobody likes to talk about) kills Ygritte.
  17. I was thinking more of the smirk she gave while walking away from the hounds. As far as being faithless and corruptible, that's going back a lot further than the show. It's one of the complaints about Sansa in the books, being sly is something she grew into.
  18. On Varys: he’s very inconsistent when it comes to what he values in a ruler. He’s blunt to Ned that Robert is a fool because he makes no effort as King and didn’t want the crown, yet he says to Jon he’d be a great ruler because he doesn’t want to rule. The worst part is that Varys, who was trying to poison Daenerys at the time, somehow forgot that Robert was so apathetic because the woman he cared for died. How did he expect Jon was going to be if the woman he loved died?
  19. Stannis would have gotten rid of anyways; D&D never liked him. They just decided to have him do something that would make most casual viewers turn on him (burning Shireen).
  20. Tolkien can get pretty grey; Denethor and Gollum in the Lord of the Rings proper. Thorin from The Hobbit as well (both book and film versions) has a horrible case of greed. And that's not going into The Silmarillion where there are plenty of grey characters to go around, where there are plenty of characters fighting against a great evil (Sauron's boss Morgoth) yet are perfectly willing to backstab their erstwhile allies if it gets in the way of regaining their family jewels taken by Morgoth. Martin could make a pretty good adaptation of The Children of Hurin, where its main hero Hurin, an expy of Kullervo, is arrogant, brooding, possesses a violent temper, and marries his sister to boot (they'd never met before). Tolkien could get pretty anti-war as well: In The Children of Hurin, Turin's warlike ways are contrasted with the secrecy of the Elven city of Nargothrond. Turin convinces the Elves to abandon their secrecy and engage in large-scale warfare; Morgoth finds them, and sends the dragon Glaurung to take Nargothrond. And take it he does, with Turin's friend being killed and their mutual love interest getting captured and executed by Orcs.
  21. So this came from a post by @SeanF: So what happens if Jon stays dead? Starting from events Jon directly influences: Sansa got picked up by Brienne and Pod and reaches the Wall, but Jon is toast; she's still here and he's a ghost. Rickon is still handed over to Ramsay. Sansa will have a very hard time to get the Northern Lords on her side because she's a girl; I'm surprised in Season 8 that she became queen with their attitudes What's next?
  22. She somehow managed to peg Joffrey and Cersei as bad people while Ned and Sansa could not.
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