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Angel Eyes

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  1. Well, the books haven't shown the downsides of being a scheming psychopath (read: Littlefinger).
  2. Granted, some of GRRM's plot points are because he takes issue with how they're portrayed in other works, namely Gandalf's death and resurrection which is why you have all these characters coming back but not themselves (Beric, Lady Stoneheart, wights).
  3. Well, Quentyn's story is one long subversion of The Hero's Journey for example.
  4. Tywin would have been the inside-man to Aerys?
  5. Well @Curled Finger, my thought process is that in Lady Stoneheart's mind, Jaime has already broken his word to her since Brienne now wields one of the swords made from Ice. She's not likely to grant clemency now.
  6. At least the show made it funny when plot armor was applied (Tyrion gets conked on the head and sleeps through the Battle of the Green Fork)...
  7. Well, let's take it from a starting point being the War of the Ninepenny Kings: This war brings several figures from the Great Houses of Westeros together: Tywin Lannister had served as cupbearer to Aegon V, where he met Prince Aerys and his cousin Steffon. Tywin's brothers Kevan and Tygett (who was all of 10 years old) also served in the war. Hoster and Brynden Tully also serve, the former meets and befriends Lord Baelish (Petyr's father) and Brynden earns his knighthood. Jon Arryn is acquainted with Rickard Stark and Steffon Baratheon. Quellon Greyjoy brings a contingent of longships. No word on Luthor Tyrell as Mace would have been too young at the time (3-4 years old). Now how do they fit together as the years go by: Tywin, Kevan, and Tygett purge the Reynes and Tarbecks in 262 AC. Tywin becomes Hand of the King to Aerys after Castamere (262 AC). 270 AC: Tywin and Aerys begin to have a falling-out; Aerys refuses to appoint Tywin's brother Tygett as a master-at-arms and instead appoints Ser Willem Darry. Rickard and Steffon each send one of their sons to foster with Jon Arryn at the Eyrie in 271 AC; Rickard sends his second son Eddard, Steffon sends his eldest son Robert. 272 AC: Tywin and Aerys quarrel after remarks made about Tywin's wife Joanna, whom Aerys lusted for. Joanna dies the next year giving birth to her second son Tyrion. 276 AC: Rickard's eldest son Brandon is betrothed to Hoster's elder daughter Catelyn. Brandon is 14, Catelyn 11 or 12. Viserys Targaryen born, Aerys turns down Tywin suggesting a betrothal between Cersei and Rhaegar. After 276 AC: Petyr Baelish is fostered in Riverrun (assumption made on Ned and Robert's ages). 278 AC: Steffon and Cassana Baratheon drown off the coast of the Stormlands after failed attempt to find bride for Rhaegar. Before 280 AC: Robert Baratheon is betrothed to Lyanna Stark; by this point Robert has sired Mya Stone. 280 AC: Elia Martell marries Rhaegar Targaryen. 281 AC: Tourney at Harrenhal; Aerys II names Tywin's eldest son Jaime to the Kingsguard, breaking off negotiations to betroth Jaime to Hoster's younger daughter Lysa. Rhaegar crowns Lyanna, souring relations between Houses Targaryen, Martell, and Baratheon. 282 AC: Betrothal of Brandon and Catelyn announced, Petyr challenges Brandon and is nearly killed. This looks to be how things were stacking up before Rhaegar disappears with Lyanna Stark: Rhaegar is married to Elia Martell, two children Robert Baratheon betrothed to Lyanna Stark; Robert has one child sired illegitimately Brandon Stark and Catelyn Tully
  8. Still, the Kingsguard would be counted on in military matters as commanders, as shown at the Battle of the Trident where Prince Lewyn Martell led the Dornishmen and even with Gerold himself during the War of the Ninepenny Kings when he took command of the combined Westerosi forces after Ormund Baratheon was killed.
  9. Maybe Emilia didn't like spending as much time in the makeup chair?...
  10. True; Gerold Hightower is a definite enigma for me. I can't imagine, as part of a family steeped in the Faith, how he took Rickard's execution. Also with the Tower of Joy business; Gerold goes back to retrieve Rhaegar but then trades places with him... for what reason?
  11. Given that the Targaryens no longer practice polygamy, would this mean Rhaegar annulled his marriage to Elia as in the show... which would explain why there was only one Kingsguard with Elia and her children, who subsequently "failed" to protect them?
  12. As I've said in other threads I wouldn't be surprised if GRRM pulls the rug out from under us.
  13. Doesn't the epilogue for ADWD end with Kevan's POV of getting poked full of holes?
  14. Well if Rhaegar annulled his marriage to Elia that would piss Aegon off immensely.
  15. I had a theory surrounding a contrast between Margaery and Arya through Sansa's eyes; Arya is Sansa's sister, Margaery is the sister Sansa wishes she had... except that Margaery and Arya have some similar aspects that Sansa fails to recognize.
  16. Well, it's a theory in-universe that Catelyn believed and Ned had to quash rumors of. Would be interesting to see how it developed; most of the theories surrounding Jon Snow originate from Dorne, where Ned found the dying Lyanna. Ashara and Wylla hail from Starfall as lady and servant, Cersei accuses Ned of raping a peasant girl. The odd theory out is the Fisherman's Daughter, which originated in the area between the Vale and the North.
  17. So... you'd prefer being killed and turned into a zombie?
  18. The Daynes for me. There's a lot of mystery about them (Dawn for instance) and they have quite a few fingers in whatever happened in Dorne with Lyanna and Rhaegar (Starfall for instance is the closest castle to the Tower of Joy). Allyria is a bit of an enigma for me; is she Arthur and Ashara's sister (which is possible considering the age gap between Rhaegar and Daenerys) or is she a Dayne by blood but a niece, say Brandon and Ashara's child that's been raised as a younger sister (Jack Nicholson is a real-life example of this trope in action)? Why is it that Ned Stark is spoken so well in Dorne that a Dayne of the next generation has a similar nickname as him, even though he fought against Arthur and (presumably) killed him? There's quite a few allusions to Martin's earlier work and the fantasy genre via House Dayne, as explained in this video.
  19. How did he get so far past the Wall that the North caught him instead of the Night's Watch? Jon gets chased after by Sam, Grenn, and Pyp and caught after a few hours. It takes months to find Gared, and he a) had more ground to cover and b) had limited points to cross over the Wall where he would have been found.
  20. Which is one of the reasons why I think Jaime is going to be hanged.
  21. That would make it bitter. As for the Scouring of the Shire, the show had that with Daenerys rushing north to help fight the existential threat and then going back south to fight a smaller, personal goal... and losing herself.
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