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Angel Eyes

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  1. My guess is that Cersei and Tyrion are both trying to mirror their father Tywin, but clearly aren't doing their job properly.
  2. I can't imagine it being in great shape, considering it would have spent 15+ years in water and rusted. And that isn't if it wasn't burned with Rhaegar on a funeral pyre.
  3. Did somebody call for the Great Stone Dragon?
  4. Unless a deus ex machina happens or Brienne breaks her oath, Jaime's getting hanged.
  5. And yet Doran wanted to marry Arianne to him. But he couldn't be bothered into molding Viserys into a suitable husband for some reason or another (never even bothered to set up a correspondence).
  6. Now, Doran's Targaryen plots gone wrong, part 2: Quentyn. After the "crowning" of Viserys, Doran sets his sights on Daenerys, a Queen in truth with power at her beck and call in dragons, Unsullied, and sellswords. What can Quentyn offer? The support of Dorne. Now, how to make him inconspicuous to the Iron Throne, which Doran fears above all else? It's known that the sons of Westerosi noblemen would sometimes tour the Free Cities during their early years of maturity to partake in more knowledge of the world, as Tyrion asked Tywin to do as his uncles had done. This would be in addition to Oberyn's contacts in Braavos and Tyrosh. And Quentyn, with a Norvosi mother, had more opportunities to do so than most since Mellario had left for her home city; it would not look out of the ordinary to use visiting his mother as a pretense to have a home base or even just as a starting point From there, Quentyn could start off from there or Doran could send an invitation to Daenerys that a representative of Dorne wished to meet with her Doran also made errors in the personnel for Quentyn's quest: Cletus and Archibald Yronwood, Gerris Drinkwater, William Wells, and Maester Kedry. All, while likely skilled knights and someone versed in the tongues of Essos, held allegiance to only one house: House Yronwood, showing that they had no other backing. Even Oberyn understood the importance of image politics, bringing lords, ladies, and heirs from all over Dorne to Joffrey's wedding, to the point that Tyrion felt his own retinue was outmatched. His varied entourage showed that Dorne was not so easily ignored in the politics of the realm. Contrast with the Fellowship of the Ring: Four were Hobbits and close friends and relatives of the Ringbearer Frodo Baggins (albeit with three being landed gentlemen), but the other members of the Fellowship were skilled in war, languages, with political clout and backgrounds from all over Middle-Earth: Gandalf the Grey, a Servant of the Secret Fire, Wielder of the Flame of Anor, member of the White Council Aragorn son of Arathorn, Heir of Isildur and Anarion, Chieftain of the Dunedain Boromir son of Denethor, heir to the Stewardship of Gondor, Captain-General of Gondor, High Warden of the White Tower Legolas Greenleaf son of Thranduil, Prince of Mirkwood Gimli son of Gloin, cousin of Dain II Ironfoot Even Oberyn understood the importance of image politics, bringing lords, ladies, and heirs from all over Dorne to Joffrey's wedding, to the point that Tyrion felt his own retinue was outmatched. His varied entourage showed that Dorne was not so easily ignored in the politics of the realm. Doran then made an error in Quentyn's passage to Essos; instead of starting from Oldtown where the companions would not be easily identified, Doran had them start from Plankytown, the only port in Dorne, where they made conspicuous figures, particularly the lazy-eyed Cletus. His attempts at secrecy only increased speculation in the eyes of the lowborn of Dorne, which made their way up to the paranoid Arianne. The result was disastrous: the company was halved before the reader meets Quentyn, most notably Cletus, the only other member of the party who could have shown any political clout. The plain Quentyn, in manner, face, and garb, had no means of charming Daenerys to fulfill his father's plans and so made a desperate attempt to tame a dragon... flaming out like a frog in the Bayou.
  7. There are a lot of things wrong with Doran's plots regarding the Targaryens. Let's start with Viserys. So Doran has Oberyn go to Braavos and meet with Ser Willem Darry to set up a betrothal between Viserys and Arianne. Five years later, Ser Willem croaks. Doran could have had Oberyn escort the now unmoored Viserys and Daenerys to Tyrosh, whose daughter had been fostered in Sunspear, fulfilling his end of the pact with the Archon by having Arianne meet her betrothed. Difficult? Yes. Impossible? No, especially since Oberyn's travels were well-known to the royal court and would not seem out of the ordinary. Viserys did not have to cross the Narrow Sea at this point, but he should at least meet his intended and vice versa. At the very least they could have started a correspondence. Instead, Doran does nothing when he had no excuse. His justification that Mellario didn't want to lose another child to fostering as she lost Quentyn is bullshit; as an alternative, why not have Oberyn escort the exiled Targaryens to Norvos instead? That way, Mellario could take Arianne with her, the intendeds meet or could at least correspond. The result of Doran's inaction? Viserys degenerates into a paranoid, cruel wreck, the type no man would want for his son-in-law, with no skills to rule or even to take the throne he so wanted. And so ended the Beggar King, crowned with gold.
  8. There are a couple things that don't make sense about Doran; his planning skills is one. The other is how he and Jon Arryn were able to negotiate a truce between the Iron Throne and House Martell, when evidence shows that something as simple as the return of bones isn't enough to end a war (read: Ned Stark), which Jon did for Elia.
  9. I'm of the same mind as you; Doran didn't do enough to make sure his plan came to fruition, or even to make sure Viserys was a suitable match for Arianne. This article is a chronicle of every misstep Doran took, before and during the books.
  10. Well, I've hoped that it would be more of a ruling couple with Sansa. To paraphrase The Young Victoria, someone to play the game with her, not for her.
  11. Jon doesn't trust Roose Bolton... which he knows but Rob doesn't. Strange that one. Anyways, didn't Maester Aemon send out for help but nobody came but Stannis? If so, Roose (via Ramsay) has already refused the Watch, why would Jon contact him again?
  12. And yet Doran didn't lift a finger to help him in the 12 years he would have been betrothed to Arianne (I fault him for that but that's another story). Plus Viserys would have scarpered the plan by raping Daenerys if he had the opportunity and had no fighting skills, which proved his downfall with the Dothraki.
  13. I think Alys is dead; she was with Theon in the godswood and Theon was the only one left standing.
  14. That tends to happen when characters get punished a lot for heroism, mercy, or even decency.
  15. Plus the Lannisters intended to break it. Multiple times.
  16. Right, and this is contingent on Viserys not being stupid enough to blow the plan by trying to have his way with Daenerys in some form and developing fighting skills.
  17. And Viserys bungled the plan by being too impatient. Not to mention he would have shot the whole plan in the foot had he raped Daenerys like he wanted to the night before her wedding.
  18. Prove it. It's made abundantly clear that Drogo's khalasar didn't respect him; and once he put a sword to Daenerys' womb, it was a death sentence.
  19. Which is all Tyrion's fault. It was his boneheaded idea that led Daenerys into her ambush off Dragonstone's coast.
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