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Dany is superior to Jon when it comes to governing.  Jon had a small area under his command and he completely screwed it up.  An ancient order that has withstood the challenges of time was brought to its ruin because of one lousy Lord Commander Snow.  Meanwhile, Dany will liberate millions in the far east and bring Targaryen rule back to Westeros. 

On 6/9/2023 at 6:50 PM, The Lord of the Crossing said:

The Faceless Men collect the dead and use their bodies as props and disguises to carry out their murders and assassinations.  The immorality of this practice is almost on par with what the Skinchangers and the Others are doing on the other side of the world.  They take control of the helpless and use their bodies to carry out murders. 

The corpse masks used by the Faceless Men to hide their real faces do not hide the eyes.  Arya's eyes always remain the same even when she is using or misusing the face skins of the dead.  The emotional bond between the Starks and the direwolves make both creatures more violent.  Arya's is an even more chaotic because the personalities of the dead person whose face she wears seep into her own.  The Tully predisposition to insanity, the direwolf connection, and the personalities leaking from the skinmasks are creating havoc in Arya's mind. 

Mutilating the dead and using the body parts the way they do is immoral and disgusting. 

Elia was a good choice.  It builds relations with the Dornish. 

On 6/9/2023 at 6:43 PM, The Lord of the Crossing said:

I believe so.  This plot predate the conquest.  Search far enough back in time and there should be scrolls predicting the female Azor Ahai, the birth of dragons, and the battle to defeat the winter. 

One of Dany's visions showed old kings in faded clothes holding glass candles.  They were rooting for her to succeed.  Those guys were her ancestors.  Dany is Azor Ahai reborn for this time.  

Jon Snow is the return of the Night's King and Arya will be his corpse bride. 

23 hours ago, Aerodimas said:

Dany is Azor Ahai but her relevance will stop when she arives to Westeros (i am refering to the white walkers plot).

Dany is the protagonists.  She is the most important of the characters.  Her return to Westeros will be the biggest event of the story. 

It will be Sansa and Jon Snow who will lose relevance as the story moves forward. 

8 hours ago, Lady Stonehearts Simp said:

If you are like I, then you believe the theory that the Lords of the North, Riverlands, Vale, and Stormlands were planning on seceding from the 7K. 
 

The Targaryen rule of Westeros was only ever as legitimate as their ability to keep it together. Not only that, the Targaryens routinely abused their power and subjects as much as they helped Westeros. The North being the perfect example. Ending the right of first night was a good thing, though it was a dying tradition anyway. But immediately giving the Gift to the NW essentially took farmland away from the Northern lords, and gave it to a group that could never use it. Lest we also forget before that how Lords Jaehaerys sent to the Wall rebelled again and killed a Stark Lord. And then the Dance of the Dragons where the North had a poor harvest, that could’ve been aided by the land, and the civil war made sure that the rest of 7K couldn’t help.

In short, they were absolutely in the right to rebel against the weak and ineffectual Targaryens of their time.

This is absolutely wrong.  Westeros was a backwards place with the lords always fighting among themselves.  The common people were suffering under their rule.  The Targaryens brought order to Westeros. 

The only thing we can agree on is the existence of an evil conspiracy on the parts of those families to rebel.  We are in agreement.  King Aerys had the right to execute Brandon and Rickard.  Robert and Eddard were knowing and willing participants to treason and deserved to die for it.  Lyanna, if she was found, should be given a chance to condemn her family.  Is she refuses she gets the axe. 

The Starks got their way and placed their friend Robert on the throne.  Time has shown what a disaster that was.  Westeros is in a very bad way because of Baratheon and Stark incompetence at governing.  Westeros was never this bad during the 300 year rule of the Targaryens.  Westeros needs Daenerys Targaryen.  Baratheon and Stark are not up to the job of governing a kingdom. 

Bran is creepy.  His Direwolf is getting wild as well. 

Jon is Mance Rayder's lord commander.  What crime Mance committed on that mission was Jon's responsibility.  The wildlings are guilty of violating guest rights.  They killed Roose Bolton's people while sheltering under his protection and taking his food.  It is an absence of morality.

On 3/22/2023 at 3:34 AM, The Lord of the Crossing said:

A lot of talk on the appropriate punishment for Arya Stark for the crimes of foul murder.  Specifically, the murders of Dareon and the Insurance Underwriter.  She is guilty of many more murders but some are claiming those others acts of self-defense.  The old witch saw many more murders in Arya's short future but we can only judge and sentence for crimes already committed.  There is no justice in punishing somebody for what they might do or what they are predicted to do.  And this is about justice. 

Arya has no objections to handing the dead.  A fair punishment for crimes already committed is a life time of servitude to the Silent Sisters.  There obviously has to be a method to keep Arya from running away.  And we can further speculate on how that might be accomplished.  Perhaps a magic binder that will keep Arya bound to the Silent sisters or something of the like. 

This is fair in my opinion.  At least she is given a chance for redemption even though she feels no guilt. 

Comment below and let me know if you consider this too light of a sentence.  Too light or just right? 

It will never work for Arya.  The girl can't commit to anything and she is bad at obeying rules.  Arya can't be trusted to stay with the sisters because her mental condition will worsen over time. 

4 hours ago, Widowmaker 811 said:

I agree.  The Lion of the Night sent the white walkers to menace the living. Bran will repeat the same crime against the living.  His brothers and sisters will get killed and Bran will set the white walkers loose on Westeros.

Arya is the one who will go Stark raving mad.  Bran is calm and easy going for a Stark.  It's Arya and Jon who have the dreaded wolf's blood.  

The return to Vaes Dothrak counts as going east.  Quaithe is right because the slave trade will not stop unless the Dothraki are stopped.  The op piqued my curiosity about Yin.  I don't think Dany will be going there but I can wish.  It will be preferable to me to do that instead getting more chapters in the eyrie and the north.