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  1. Is it Lo Bu who divided his army and thus became vulnerable to the Jhogo Nai?  An intact army would have survived.  I don't think they could eradicate the JN but they had enough soldiers to protect their borders.  

    Essos as they say is a different dog.  The Yi Ti would have to deal with other powerful people like Ghis and its famed legions.  


  2. Ice and Fire take turns calibrating the world.  Fire destroyed Valyria.  Ice will destroy Westeros.  These disasters keep humans from becoming too powerful and further upsetting the planet's resources.  It culls the weak and the unlucky to force evolution.  

    The female part of this equation during the time of the story is Life.  We only need to go to the first book to see the examples.  What did the white walkers do in the prologue?  They killed Will and Waymar.  Ned killed the wandering crow in the following chapter.  Ice is the bringer of death.  Robb rebelled.  Ned killed Lady.  Arya has become mentally bent on killing.  Jon was set to lead his small army into a very avoidable war before Bowen Marsh killed him.  

    On 3/20/2019 at 8:43 AM, 867-5309 said:

    Females give birth and thus life among the living.  The Others take the dead and control their corpses.  It's different.  

    They recycle bodies and put them to good use from the way they see it.  


  3. On 4/15/2019 at 12:32 AM, Platypus Rex said:

    Either that or … he was setting the stage for Tyrion dying, and living out his "second life" as a dragon (like Fafnir the kinslaying dwarf turned dragon of Norse legend) only to be ultimately slain, in dragon form by an old friend (Jon Snow), much like Fafnir was.

    Only if Aerys was his father.  Which I don't think is true.


  4. Martin carefully laid out the rules of skin changing in order to prepare the readers for what will happen.  Varamyr's purpose was that preparation.  Jon will die from his wounds but his mind will continue to live in his direwolf.  A Time for Wolves is too obvious a title and it needed to change.  But the story doesn't have to.  Jojen tells Bran "the wolves will come again" and it can easily mean the Starks have turned to direwolves when the pack gets together again.


  5. On 2/3/2019 at 10:17 PM, Mordred said:

    Death is the status quo.  For the lack of a better term, it's the default state of the universe.  Life constantly work to exists.  Life has to be the hero because without it, ahem, even this discussion would not take place.  The question of good guy vs. bad guy is microscopically insignificant when you put it up in comparison with the cosmic scale of the universe's existence itself.  We are only insects in this universe.  Small and powerless.  Judging who is good and not only exists in our microscopic existence.  This is an extreme topic to be discussing and it falls outside the realm of the novels.  I would even say it is beyond the normal course of every day life because we take it for granted that living is a good thing.  Without life even philosophy and morality cannot exists.  

     

    On 2/6/2019 at 11:51 PM, Ser Leftwich said:

    Death is not good. Death is necessary.

     

    On 2/20/2019 at 6:47 PM, Gabbie Roxas said:

    What a question!  Great thoughts written by my predecessors already.  We are genetically programmed to value our lives.  It has served us well and got us this far.  But in my humble opinion, this is not the true path to our evolution.  We can better our instincts.  The true path to enlightenment and morality is to learn to value the lives, rights, and wellbeing of other species as much as we value our own.   We have to evolve beyond being a humanists and learn to value non-human lives as much as we value our own.  I think that is the real path to morality.

    The concepts of right and wrong that you present is bound by the limitations of human instinct, which we know is not programmed for morality but rather to serve the survival of that one species.  It is selfish.  Selfish is not good.  There is a better way.  A life of generosity and compassion is much, much better to me.

    I wish I can convince all of you to play Nier Automata.  The game was created for people who think such as you.  It's deeper than ice and fire and you get more involvement because it's a game.  

     


  6. Bran can see the past but he can't go there physically.  He does this maybe through the weirwood trees.  The trees have long lives and the faces carved on the trunks can see.  What they saw stays in their memory.  Bran is one with the trees and can decipher the memory.  

    Reincarnation can make it possible for Bran to be the Brandon the Builder.  His soul gets reincarnated again and again.  Jon was the Nightsking and Arya was his corpse bride.


  7. On 12/28/2018 at 3:38 PM, Black Dragons said:

    Cold Hands in the Books version is/was the 13 Commander of Night Watch he made a bargain with the Others to become a King of Night Watch.  I don't think he is a Stark.

    The Night's King was a Stark.  


  8. George Martin flipped the idea of the relationship between magic and science.  The maesters in our magicless world will be considered the intellectual elite and the magicians will get no more credibility than quack alchemists.  Martin's world has magic and it trumps science.  Therefore, it is the Citadel and it's maesters who play the part of quack alchemists in his world.  It's the scientists who are ignorant there.  The open minded practitioners of magic are the intellectuals.  Practical knowledge has its uses though and the maesters are the librarians of Earthos.  But their catalog is woefully incomplete.  Martin is not about to make one side completely right and the opposite completely wrong.  Magic and science have value and it is the person who accepts both who is the truly educated.  

    What should be coming obvious is that the classical, maester driven education of the Westeros nobles is woefully inadequate.  It's the people like Jorah, Tyrion, Daenerys, Arya, Bran, and Marwyn who are getting the best education because of their abilities to read, acquire new languages, exposure to diverse cultures, and travel widely.  


  9. Honestly, I don't find those two alike.  Take a closer look at two random characters in this ginormous tale and you can find parallels.  Just look at the examples.  

    Daenerys and Bran.  Visions, prophecies, and dreams.  One can't walk and the other can't have a baby.  

    Jorah and Jaime.  Both got the same punishment they gave.  Jorah got sold to slavers.  Jaime got crippled.

    Brienne and Arya.  Out of touch women who doesn't fit in socially.  Awkward.  

    So on and so on.  I fail to see any significance between Stannis and Rhaegar besides their fathering something strange.  Stannis fathered a shadowspawn.  Maybe Rhaegar fathered an ice spawn if he got Lyanna preggers.  Both children of the dark who brought disaster.   


  10. 4 hours ago, Sigella said:

    Wasn't there something about Aerys at first turned Rhaella's ladies into whores, but after a while he stopped and stuck with only Rhaella because paranoia-something?

    I can't find the quote.

     

    Still can't find the quote but remembered that he stopped sleeping around before Viserys was born.

    This


  11. On 3/16/2019 at 6:11 PM, Plain, Simple Tailor said:

    What are the best and worst POVs per book? 

    A Game of Thrones: 

    BEST: Daenerys Targaryen 

    WORST: Jon Snow 

    A Clash of Kings: 

    BEST: Daenerys Targaryen 

    WORST: Arya Stark

    A Storm of Swords: 

    BEST: Daenerys Targaryen

    WORST: Jon Snow

    A Feast for Crows: 

    BEST: Prologue 

    WORST: Aerion Greyjoy

    A Dance with Dragons: 

    BEST: Daenerys Targaryen

    WORST: Arya Stark

    The Blood of the Dragon is a novella of the Daenerys chapters.  It won the Hugo Award in 1997.  People who know what good writing is recognized how awesomely good those Dany chapters are.  

     


  12. I didn't catch that discrepancy.  It's not unexpected given the number of pages written.  There are bound to be many inconsistencies in all of the books.  World is not written from an all-knowing third party narrator.  The author-historian can easily make mistakes.  


  13. On 2/28/2019 at 3:23 PM, Gramse said:

    Ponder the idea that the Others have a man on the "inside" south of the wall. By inside I mean a person in the enemy camp clearing way for them in subtle ways and perhaps even gives them information.

    What would this person do?

    1. Perhaps he would try to weaken the North in some ways, since this is the region closest to The Wall and most likely to help them if The Others should attack.

    2. Perhaps he would want to weaken or make the northern lords dislike The Wall and the men there. He would try to make people "forget" about the wall.

    3. One would most likely want to create wars and food to weaken mankind.

    4. Most certainly would such a "man" would do everything in his power to stop Stannis and "the red witch" with her fire magic. As fire is effective against wights and perhaps the fire magic also.

     

    As a matter of fact, there is such a person doing exactly this thing. 

    It is a person who got his job after his predecessor left for the wall and joined a white tree. And the man who replaced him is a necromancer. Odd, isn't it? 

    He is described as a wizard or similar numerous times and he is associated with blue magic and blue flames when he lost his manhood. He is of course Varys the... Spider. We have all been deceived, there is a missing word in his "name", it should read Varys the ICE spider. 

    I wrote a longer article about it here:

     

    Varys tried to save King Aerys from his enemies.  He supports the Targaryen restoration which is for the best of humanity.  If the Others have an inside man then it's more like an inside family.  The Starks have significant connections to the White Walkers and may share the same bloodline.  A Stark must always be in Winterfell to await the coming of their gods.  The frozen corpses of the kings of winter lie in state while they wait for the White Walkers to return and give them life again.  Although they forgot to read the fine print about coming back as ice zombies.


  14. 8 minutes ago, Rose of Red Lake said:

    While I'm sure he likes Dany, I dont think affection will stop him from thwarting a pureblood Targaryen restoration. I think the infertility issues would end the line permanently anyway, because to be historically accurate, a dynasty based on incest shouldn't last that long. I doubt he is in favor of puritanical beliefs about exceptional humans or that he is a blood purity supremacist at heart. The bastard system is a form of blood purity and I doubt he believes that's a good system either. I doubt he believes that one group of humans is actually superior and the most beautiful and the most extraordinary and better than other humans. I doubt the legacy of "we are above the law" and "fire and blood" is the moral of the story. I doubt he really cares if the blood of Valyria got watered down. And I get the sense that he favors Jon, the half-breed and not Dany, for endgame ruler anyway.

     

     

     

     

    I doubt the author favors Jon as a ruler.  Jon is an idiot who thoroughly fucked up at the wall.  He can't manage a few thousand underlings.  He sure as hell won't be able to manage a kingdom.


  15. 11 hours ago, Paxter Redwyne said:

    Nobles in our world too believed to be inherently better than peasants but it wasn't sanctioned by the church and same is in Westeros. Jaehaerys needed reason to elevate Targaryens to higher status than other nobles.

    Correct.  He needed to highlight the difference between them and the common man.  And he had a lot of good points.  After all, they came from a culture that practiced sibling marriages.  That culture pre-date the seven.  They ride dragons.  Something the common man can't do.  They look different.  


  16. On 2/27/2018 at 8:56 PM, James Fenimore Cooper XXII said:

     

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    Thanks for the thoughtful replies to my original topic. I have done some more reading and came up with additional ideas on this topic.  Apologies because we have gone to the side of the road and veered to the left of the topic.  But this is still about Dany so I feel it's fine to proceed.  So those old men with the swords of fire.  They were Azor Ahai and the vision doesn't paint a picture of men who were in their primes and the tattered clothes probably meant they had not changed for a long time.  What could make kings wear faded and worn clothing?  The more I think on this and the more I read people's comments the more I refine my original ideas.  The clothes are faded because they were living through the long night!  Lack of food, spare clothing, gaunt, pale.  All point to people who lost civilization.  And their bespoke tailors!  

    So if Azor Ahai won, why did the long night last so long?  Answer: He didn't win.  History is often wrong so why not legends.  Those Azor Ahais could not turn back the darkness.  They had to wait it out until the long night passed.  This is consistent with Nan's story of a night that lasted for a lifetime.  They also killed their wives. Due to insanity or maybe just like in Nan's story of the mother's smothering their babies to spare them from suffering.  Dany smothered Drogo to spare him from suffering.  

    I don't have much to base this on except the post "Targaryen Madness Is An Exaggeration" and 'Will Jon Snow Go Mad?" posts.  I believe those kings went mad.  They were the ancestors of the Targaryens and they were all Azor Ahai.  They went mad.  Male Targaryens are susceptible to madness.  Think about this.  Madness can't be common among the 40 ruling families of old Valyria.  So just maybe it's not a Valyrian thing, it's a Targaryen family curse.  Call it genetics.  Whatever the case may be, many male Targaryens go mad.  

    What is their interest in our young hero?  They were cheering Dany on like a squad of retired male cheerleaders.  Run, run away from the darkness.  Wake, wake the dragon.  They were encouraging Dany because she is the only hope to defeat the long night.  Why?  Because she's the first female Azor Ahai.  She's not susceptible to madness.   Azor Ahai is now female and she has three dragons.  She is the Prince Who Was Promised.  The prophecy used the word "prince" and it has been explained because dragons are gender neutral.  But we have to remember, the prophesied person comes before the dragons.  The word choice is not "prince' because dragons are gender neutral but because all the other Azor Ahais before were male.  But this time around is different and this is the game changer that everyone has been waiting for.  AA is born a female this time and instead of a magic sword she has three dragons!  English is not my strongest point so I am not getting my ideas across as well as I would like.  But I believe those old guys were AAs of ancient times, they lost the battle for the long night, they murdered their wives because they went insane, they only had swords to fight with, they have been waiting all this time for the Prince Who Was Promised, they needed a female AA to avoid the madness, they needed a female to hatch dragons, and that female Azor Ahai is Daenerys.

    http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/145805-targaryen-madness-is-an-exaggeration/

    Nice.  The dragons will change the game this time around.  They won't be able to force the weather to change back to summer but they can burn away the wights and their masters.  Most of the people in westeros will still die because winter kills.  Martin already warned us about that.  But having the dragons will save enough people to repopulate after the winter passes.


  17. I don't know about villains but they made the kingdom worse.  The kingdom would have been better off if Aerys had won the war and beheaded all of the Baratheons, Starks, and Arryns.  Or burn them.  Whichever he preferred.  Jon Arryn's math is messed up.  He started a rebellion that killed many to protect two men.  That should have been a clue as to what kind of leader he would be.  He allowed Robert to bankrupt the country.  Lf was screwing his wife underneath his nose.  Cersei was cuckolding the king under his watch.  That's not an improvement over Aerys.  Aerys burned people.  Duh, so does Stannis.  The Targaryens fought among themselves for power.  Duh, so do the Baratheons.  Look to Renly and Stannis.  Aerys punished some innocents along with the guilty at Duskendale.  Well, Robert sent an assassin after an innocent, young girl.  Whose throne he stole.  Ned protested but in the end was going to let it happen.  They were worse than Aerys.

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