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For this quote by GRRM:
Q: Dany remembers a lemon tree outside the house with the red door in Braavos but citrus trees shouldn’t really grow in Braavos’ cold, foggy, climate. Is this discrepancy significant? Does it point to a future revelation about Dany’s past? Thank you so much.
A: Very perceptive of you.
Yes it does point to ... well, that would be telling.
the screenshot of the message doesn’t show the date, does anyone know the date of this quote?
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7 hours ago, Megorova said:
I think it was 6 months after Rhaenys' birth, because it seems that Aegon was conceived at King's Landing in early 281. Rhaegar and Elia married in early 280, Rhaenys was born in late 280. If her parents went to King's Landing 6 months after her birth, to present her to the King, then that's also when they conceived Aegon, while they were at KL. Aegon was born either in very late 281 or very early 282, thus he was conceived in early 281 (Elia was heavily pregnant during Harrenhal's tournament, that took place close to the end of 281).
My estimates is that Aegon was conceived in April 281 (born in December 281 or January 282), Rhaenys was born in October 280, and the Wedding was in January 280.
I agree that it seems Rhaenys was presented after 6 months with both parents in KL to conceive Aegon. However I do find it odd that it says Rhaegar presented Rhaenys and not the both of them. Doesn’t seem like Rhaegar was present in the Kingswood brotherhood incident either. It’s actually kinda hard to pinpoint Elia’s location during the time of Aegon’s conception.
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Guys, I believe that Rhaegar did start having romantic feelings or noticed Lyanna during the Harrenhal tourney but the one thing that bothers me is that Rhaegar crowned Lyanna because she was KOLT. It just doesn’t fit with what Rhaegar has been described as especially if he was fond of Elia. Although they were not in love, it’s still very disrespectful, and we probably will get more information later. But I do have a tiny theory that may fit in.
Aegon was born either late 281 or early 282, Elia may have gotten pregnant around March- April 281 which fits in the timeline of after Rhaenys birth and her six month recovery. I believe after she recovered, Rhaegar and her presented Rhaenys in KL and at this time Aegon was conceived (Rhaegar sees a comet in KL). However they would not know she was pregnant at the time. Then she went to Dorne to present Rhaenys and see Quentyn (born in 281). She went back to KL via Kingswood but at this time Hightower and Elia were attacked by the Kingswood brotherhood. While the accuracy of this incident is subjective, it does make sense that Hightower was injured as Arthur lead against the Kingswood and Hightower did not participate in the Harrenhal tourney. It would make sense that Elia was traveling with a chest and jewels if she is coming back from Dorne. I am not so sure of the stolen kiss part. Regardless, she was able to get away as it’s not stated that she was held for ransom.
So the point is, when did she figure out she was pregnant again? She could not have stayed in Dorne long enough to find out she was pregnant. Was it after the Kingswood incident and if so were there rumors floating that the pregnancy being from the Kingswood brotherhood, especially for Aerys’ ears. They did not have the technology to pinpoint her exact date of pregnancy and perhaps Aerys or even Rhaegar questioned the legitimacy. Later in Harrenhal since Aerys was there perhaps Rhaegar crowned Lyanna because Elia had fallen out of favor or maybe Rhaegar suspected the child wasn’t his at the time. Btw I still feel like this explanation is lacking but I thought this may be a different perspective.
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Does anyone know when Rhaegar presented Rhaenys, was it after Elia’s 6 months bed rest or right after Rhaenys was born?
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coincidence or am I on to something?
if you take Mellario and Lemore and cross out the double letters you get Elia.
o.o
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Does anyone know of any prophecies with Dany, if Arianne is mentioned in any? It seems weird Quaithe warns Dany about Tyrion, Jon Con and other adversaries that she wouldn’t include Arianne
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Do we know the six companions with Rhaegar when he took Lyanna? It was Dayne, Whent, Mooton, and Lonmouth. But who were the other 2? Jon Con doesn’t seem to recall Lyanna so I doubt he was one. Maybe the Darrys?
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I honestly think it is going to be Willas Tyrell that will be elected King. And the north will be separated (due to the others, and will be too difficult to travel) I think it’s going to be Sansa and Rickon as leading the north as regent and king.
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I gave it a 10.
Not gonna lie, I thoroughly enjoyed watching Drogon destroy KL. The show has been dead to me a long time ago.
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I gave it a 4. However the vast majority is 1
- 1 for Ghost
- 3 for this stupid coup against Dany
- 2 for thinking Jon is a good candidate
+4 for super Euron the great other competing with his real rival Azar Ahai Arya
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3, this is just terrible. They are relying on us feeling nostalgic about the episode and cramming reunions while making nonsense conflicts. Not to mention fan service for characters. The truth is they don’t have a story, besides the White Walkers because they made the story Jon centric.
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“The Red Keep has ways known only to ghosts and spiders” - Varys
for the ghosts part, was Varys referring to all the people who died there or was he referring to specific person?
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Did anyone like Tyrion this episode?
I actually really liked Tyrion this episode. I haven't liked him since he joined Dany's club, but seeing that emotion on him and seeing him still care about Jaime really pulled at me. I'm hoping that Jaime, Tyrion, and Bron meet again, they have good chemistry with each other, only thing missing would be Podrick.
Oh, and I'm hoping the Golden Company comes, although I don't know what they will do against dragons.
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4 minutes ago, Parkourya Stark said:
Yes, Joffrey was an evil little brat but at least he had the Almighty Tywin conducting things. Nobody fancies putting Danaerys in her place at the moment.
I just don't get how Dany conducted herself was anyway acceptable and I thought Jon came unprepared but Dany was horrible. And Tyrion loses so much IQ points right now. Telling Jon to kneel if he doesn't really want to rule, yes he should kneel without consulting the North and Sansa, having Dany forcing them to fight a war they don't want, and get stabbed again
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Also, did anyone think of Tywin saying "any man who says I am the King, is no true King at all" while Dany was sprouting off against Jon?
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The show is making it seem Dany is going to have to use her dragons and she has to become allies with Jon (for what, exactly, I have no idea). It's going there like i knew it would. I think it would play out better if they are enemies, I really want to see a clash between Dothraki and Wildings, really seeing the stark children go all out. Arya can take literally take up any identity now, and bran can see everything.
SpoilerHe can even possibly warg a dragon
But man is Euron a great troll, cannot lie, it was entertaining seeing that.
R + L = J v.167
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Actually this observation makes me more inclined to think Elia was not in love with Rhaegar and had knowledge of the situation. This would explain their complex relationship, harrenhal and Aegon being removed as heir after Rhaegar dying.