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  1. I’m sorry but a semi-canon app just seems to be a money grab and provides misc. info like the world book that won’t be applied to books. It’s just for fans to get more world building. I just don’t think it’s good practice to base your theory on semi-canon sources. Also, I didn’t know practicing at rings is comparable to Loras’ skills
  2. Just my 2 cents. I don't think Dinklage meant the other character endings - I think he is referring to Jon and Dany getting together and King & Queen. While, I don't necessarily agree with his words (the show was bad for a while) there are a large amount of people that were upset the ending didn't have Jon/Dany on the throne. “No, but the show subverts what you think, and that’s what I love about it. Yeah, it was called Game of Thrones, but at the end, the whole dialogue when people would approach me on the street was, ‘Who’s going to be on the throne?’ I don’t know why that was their takeaway because the show really was more than that.”
  3. I don't know the location of the house with the door but in Aug 2017 (ADWD published in 2011) he answered this: https://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/15590
  4. Now that I think about it, I think it does make more sense to me that he will be thinking of his children and wife when he's dying. Could be some form of regret of his actions because he thought he was fulfilling prophecy but it turned out to be something else.
  5. This is also my issue with Bran being told the KOLT narrative. If Bran was to find out Lyanna was KOLT and Rhaegar fell in love with her and crowned her....it still could mean he could kidnap her later without her consent. Even if they were clearly into each other at the tourney...he could still take her later without her consent. It does not change the narrative.
  6. That is true, there really is no need to hide the name Dany's vision. Dany thinks Rhaegar loved Lyanna from GOT. I don't see a reason why it would say "the woman he loved." Also, its mentioned the app is extra stuff from the World Book which is in the POV of Maester Yandel, who going with the narrative of the Lannister regime.
  7. I mean if I was an author, I would probably do the same thing if I can get away with it from my fans lol lets say it is "semi-canon"
  8. I also never seen an author put important information in an app before. Usually its just miscellaneous information but who knows lol
  9. I do agree with this assessment, I don't feel like he was telling lies to Ned. I believe in that chapter with Ned, he had talked about how Rhaenys was killed which made Ned think about Sansa's future. There is a lot of wiggle and GRRM is toying with us. I'm more inclined to believe Aegon is real because of the manner of death for Kevan and Pycelle. But it could still be a fake Aegon. Only time will tell There is a lot of symbolism of the chapter that reminds me of Aerys' reign. Pycelle remarking that Red Ronnet reminds him of Jon Con. Even before meeting Varys, Kevan had thought about the scene in which he saw Aegon's body and couldn't tell who the baby was. There are icicles that are like spears too (reminds me of Dorne).
  10. The pisswater Pycelle is a uno reverse card on Varys. Pycelle knew Varys was going to do this the whole time
  11. Well Pycelle's death is reflection of the baby's death. If it is not the real Aegon,then its the Pisswater Prince. But he was still an innocent child that died. I am pretty sure Varys got the real Pycelle there
  12. I think it was a message to the readers about Varys' true motives. At least that's how I read it. But, in universe I think Varys wanted Kevan to know that his regime (the Lannisters) had failed to kill Aegon before killing him.
  13. Yup there is no reason for this. The only thing I could think of is that he wants Kevan to know that Aegon is alive when he dies. Varys had tried to stop the Lannisters from KL which resulted in the kids dying and Kevan had enabled it. This is the only thing I could come up with when reading the passage.
  14. While his voice may not be indication of truthfulness (although I do believe there has to be pattern for Varys). He does reveal that he is doing his work for "the children" which are Rhaenys and Aegon and seating Aegon upon the throne. The manner of death (imo) for Rhaenys and Aegon parallel both Kevan and Pycelle's death. I just don't see why would Blackfyre supporters would care about Rhaenys and Aegon? And view the Lannister regime as a bad cause as opposed to any other cause. This is of course my own opinion on it though.
  15. Thank you! Yes, I do wonder too of why he would lie to a dying Kevan, it seems he had already knew who was in the room with him: There are … there are hundreds of Lannister guardsmen in this castle." "But none in this room, thankfully.
  16. There are many like you, good men in service to bad causes" The Epilogue of ADWD has always fascinated me and I was always confused by the manner of Pycelle and Kevan's death. But I think I have solved the riddle. This is an improved version of an earlier theory I had. I don't know if this is correct or not. Just wanted to share with everyone and I hope everyone enjoys reading it. When Kevan is shot by Varys, he asks him why, and Varys refers to him as a “good man” as a supporter for a “bad cause” (the Lannisters). Varys then says he is a supporter of Aegon: "Doubt, division, and mistrust will eat the very ground beneath your boy king, whilst Aegon raises his banner above Storm's End and the lords of the realm gather round him" "Aegon?" For a moment he did not understand. Then he remembered. A babe swaddled in a crimson cloak, the cloth stained with his blood and brains. "Dead. He's dead." "No." The eunuch's voice seemed deeper The question here is Varys telling the truth? Is he talking about Aegon Targaryen, the child of Rhaegar and Elia? I believe he is, because he changed his voice. I have found one other time Varys talks in a different voice when not in disguise, when he talks about becoming a eunuch: "Nor do I, but . . ." This pause was longer than the one before, and when Varys spoke again his voice was different somehow. "I was an orphan boy apprenticed to a traveling folly. Our master owned a fat little cog and we sailed up and down the narrow sea performing in all the Free Cities and from time to time in Oldtown and King's Landing. Varys voice is not the only thing that stood out to me. It clicked to me that Pycelle’s death description matches Aegon: Then he saw. Grand Maester Pycelle was seated at his table, his head pillowed on the great leather-bound tome before him. Sleeping, Kevan thought … until he blinked and saw the deep red gash in the old man's spotted skull and the blood pooled beneath his head, staining the pages of his book. All around his candle were bits of bone and brain, islands in a lake of melted wax Aegon’s death description: The girl had been recognizably the Princess Rhaenys, but the boy … a faceless horror of bone and brain and gore, a few hanks of fair hair. None of us looked long. Tywin said that it was Prince Aegon, and we took him at his word Rhaenys death, matches Kevan’s death. Here is a quote of Rhaenys death: “Ser Amory was almost as bestial with Rhaenys. I asked him afterward why it had required half a hundred thrusts to kill a girl of…two? Three? Kevan’s death: Ser Kevan was cold as ice, and every labored breath sent a fresh stab of pain through him. He glimpsed movement, heard the soft scuffling sound of slippered feet on stone. A child emerged from a pool of darkness, a pale boy in a ragged robe, no more than nine or ten. Another rose up behind the Grand Maester's chair. The girl who had opened the door for him was there as well. They were all around him, half a dozen of them, white-faced children with dark eyes, boys and girls together. And in their hands, the daggers We also learn when Tywin arrives at King's Landing, Varys had told Aerys to not open the gate. However Pycelle was the one who convinced Aerys to open the gates which lead to the children’s death: "Ned Stark was racing south with Robert's van, but my father's forces reached the city first. Pycelle convinced the king that his Warden of the West had come to defend him, so he opened the gates. The one time he should have heeded Varys, and he ignored him. Kevan was also present at the sack: "That may be. Or not." Kevan Lannister had been here, in this very hall when Tywin had laid the bodies of Prince Rhaegar's children at the foot of the Iron Throne, wrapped up in crimson cloaks. While I believe Kevan and Pycelle were killed to further weaken the Lannisters, the manner of their deaths, Pycelle’s head smash and Kevan’s stabbing is connected to “Aegon” s and Rhaenys death because they were present at the sack and enabled it.
  17. Because its written by Maester Yandel (pov) and he does not have first hand knowledge of this. You are free to believe it, for the record I believe he did say Lyanna but I am not basing this on Yandel and an app lol
  18. Thank you, I don't like time traveling either but its just something that clicked to me when reading the Bran chapters again. I don't think I am correct but I do think there is something there...
  19. The world book as I recall is written by Maester Yandel. Some of the information was not correct such as the claim that Elia stabbed Rhaenys. He also adjusted the book to appease the Lannisters and his account is not first hand.
  20. All good points, however Howland Reed had gone to the Isle Faces and had trained there. We don't know how long or what he did, but there is the order of the green men there. Also, some horses are really responsive to their owners like Dancer. And Bran has been trained in horse riding even at his young and learned combat. And from my theory, the old gods (bran) had given that confidence to Howland. There some things that Bran/Hodor could do when Bran is in his body and Hodor is in his own. I understand this theory is not very logical but its heavily based the text and the symbolic meaning of Bran's and his wants: Bran stared resentfully at the sweating boys below. "If I still had my legs, I could beat them all." He remembered the last time he'd held a sword in his hand, when the king had come to Winterfell. It was only a wooden sword, yet he'd knocked Prince Tommen down half a hundred times. "Ser Rodrik should teach me to use a poleaxe. If I had a poleaxe with a big long haft, Hodor could be my legs. We could be a knight together." "I think that … unlikely," Maester Luwin said. "Bran, when a man fights, his arms and legs and thoughts must be as one."
  21. this is just bizarre. Of course I am looking at this in universe, that's why I think its so weird.
  22. Here's the thing that I've been telling this whole time, the information in OP is what I have. I don't know any other reason of why he can't do it again. We don't know if he took Howland's body without his consent maybe Howland gave his consent and that is why. I never said that he took complete control, I showed an EXAMPLE of Hodor being controlled by Bran but he still didn't have complete control over him. Everything I put in my OP is from the books and I am tired of this conversation.
  23. I think Elia also said a name when she was dying, could it have been Rhaegar?
  24. Rhaegar is in his 20s and has a kid and has another one on the way. Nothing in the text suggests Rhaegar is irresponsible enough or immature enough to fall in love with a teenager during a tourney especially crowning her right in front of your wife and her family. I don't even think prophecy would be enough motivation to do that. You are entitled to your opinion, but I think there was something else going on.
  25. This is what I meant in my OP, I had only said that Bran affected the past to make it easier to understand for people. I don't know why you kept on saying that I was talking about time travel all the time. I only said that he did once, and he's not able to do it again. Why he's not able to, I don't know. But he can't affect anything NOW.
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