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3 minutes ago, Ice C said:

Except she didn't. She brought not "dragons", but "a dragon".

I used dragons because she has more than one, it wouldn't have made sense if i said brought her dragon into play. She has brought her dragons into play by using one of them. I know what I mean and I know what you mean.

3 minutes ago, Ice C said:

- Preparing Barbecue sauce and a salad.

Seriously, would every dragon need a rider, or would those unmanned still follow their brother and their queen? The important thing would be for them to distinguish between "good guys" and "charcoal".

Thats the problem, Daenerys tells the dragon when to fire, yes she can get them to follow and even attack as seen when she burns the slavers ship at the end of season 6. The dragons need their own riders to really utilize the flying fire breathing force that they could be. Pointless having 3 dragons attacking the same thing etc.

33 minutes ago, JordanJH1993 said:

It was, as you say, a great episode. Definitely the best of the season so far.

I agree for the most part about what you say about the dialogue, but do you not think the Arya arriving in Westeros and her banal conversations with Sansa and Bran (poorly written and poorly acted out) slowed down the pace momentarily? It definitely peaked again quickly after that, but that section was boring.

I probably disagree to honest, I thought the part in Gods wood when Bran confirms she has a list as this has been laughed off twice now in season 7 and its time they take her seriously, hence the fight scene between Brienne and Arya was to show everyone she means business and shes got the skills to look after herself. For the first time things did flow and pace was maintained along with no shit riddles from little finger. 

33 minutes ago, JordanJH1993 said:

I have a real feeling the Starks in Winterfell are going to be the boring arc of the season. We have a great character like Littlefinger there, who is being wasted following Sansa around and now smiling weird smiles in Arya's direction. They need to get the life back into LF, because he is the only thing that could save the story at Winterfell, as Sansa, Arya and Bran have zero chemistry.

I agree massively with this, Bran has a role to play well into season 8 but Sansa and Arya? Personally Sansa's story line is finished now shes returned home to Winterfell. Arya as much as she is a badass and a really likeable character, i dont know how she is going to merge with the main story line. One thing just like Jon that annoys me was how she was just able to leave the House of Black and White just like Jon left the NW without real question or addressing of the issue. 

For me this is what I've been waiting for, for a long time.....

There were no boat loads of shit dialogue, just plenty of good well thought out scenes. I have been disappointed with the first few episodes but this completely nailed it.

It was only a matter of time til Daenerys had, had enough and bring her dragons into play. The tension and build up to this was amazing.

Not really going to go into detail about the episode but definitely one of my 3 favourites by a country mile!!!

10/10!

45 minutes ago, StepStark said:

 

 

Oh but all those 10s that people regularly give are realistic and objective?

Its all a matter of perspective sir, its not objective its a subjective view. 

45 minutes ago, StepStark said:

 

What a hypocrisy, to say the least. Even last week there were people who rated episode 3 with 10. So how are those people going to rate episode 4? 20? 100? LOL!!! I don't get all this whining of show lovers, you always seem to feel like victims somehow, even though the show is clearly overrated as hell. I have hard time understanding 10s even for this episode, because the episode had very serious issues, even in the battle scene (but the battle was very exciting and well done in general), but okay, for the sake of argument let's say that this is an episode that deserves 10. But what about all the previous episodes that received all those 10s? Doesn't that actually prove that the show has been hugely overrated for quite some time? This episode that contains the best action scene in the show's history clearly proves that the show is overrated, because retrospectively all those previous "perfect scores" look ridiculous.

This is ridiculous, if we had all the episodes then we could but we need a bigger scale. How do the now look ridiculous, please explain? For example you go sky diving and you say its the best day of my life, next week you to a bungee jump and you say this is the best day of your life. You wouldnt think back and be like that sky diving was so over rated and ridiculous. We have been given a scale from 1-10 and thats what people are using. 

2 minutes ago, xjlxking said:

3. Yeah, I can understand that part but he has wounds that go from one end of his heart to the other. At the very least, he has some questionable proof regarding the statement that he was killed and reborn. Yet, he has nothing with WW or the undead. If he had brought a limb from a wight or something, the same way Mormont did, it would have made more sense. 

 

Not sure you understand my point. yes he does have good proof his wounds were too much to have survived so he must have been resurrected and along with witnesses that seen too.

My point is hes basically saying the AoD are people who have been killed and resurrected, Jon was killed and resurrected. It doesnt look good for him.

8 minutes ago, xjlxking said:

Further things that have annoyed me is

1. LittleFinger, you'd thing D&D would have given us some insight on what his next move was. Instead, every episode so far, his role is becoming worse to watch. If they aren't going to do anything with him, get rid of him, kill him or whatever but stop butchering this guy. Even in the show, he is responsible for most of the events. Yet, he can't seem to pull off one thing in this season.
2. Bran, he can't act. He has a weird face. There could have been a better way to introduce himself to Sansa regarding what he has become. Saying, I've seen how nice you looked on the say you got raped is not the best way. What's the point of telling a person you are the three eyed raven repeatedly without at the very least trying to explain what that is. He could have called himself smuk kuk ruk and wouldn't be more confused. 
3. Jon stopping Davos from telling everyone about Jon dying. Why? Sounds crazy? Maybe, but then again, so are dragons, undead, magic, wizards, val. blades..etc. You'd think at the very least he can show his scars..Not a big annoyance but it was like...WHY?
4. Casterly Rock, it's a normal castle. I was expecting something more but whatever.

1. Yeah i agree with that just kill him off, they are ruining a character I liked for all the wrong reasons.
2. Again the most weirdest thing in the series so far, it was all set for a big reunion at first then boom, I watched you getting raped as he gets a mini boner. I hope maybe this was done for a reason but I think not
3. Hes just mentioned the dead/undead and hes going to say hes being resurrected, wouldnt really go down well after telling her about how bad the resurrected(dead) are.
4. I was pretty disappointed with both CR and HG

6 minutes ago, King Louis II (KLII) said:

There are two things that are bothering me:

1- There is NO WAY the iron fleet can have 1,000 ships. Most of ships that are showed in the show are similar to Cogs and Caravels, which has a crew of 20 at the bare minimum, and more likely 30 or 40.  This mean that pike must have 20,000 troops. Remember, the Boltons, Umbers and Karstark together did not have 10,000.... 

2- It is interesting the idea that the unsullied are in CR without provisions. However, without the iron fleet deploying ground troops and holding a siege this is pointless. CR is close to Lannisport, which is a major town. Hungry unsullied would sack and plunder its resources until reinforcements arrive by land.

1. Its impossible the iron fleet as 1000 ships and I'd be inclined to estimate it to be a third of that but we will never know for sure.
2. I thought exactly the same thing, so Euron comes and i assume all boats that transported the unsullied are destroyed by Eurons fleet. If no troops are deployed to try kill the unsullied, then GW and his team will just wait it out, if need be go looking for food etc until help arrived.

10 hours ago, StraightFromAsshai said:

Probably the worst episode so far in the series. I don't know what's worse... the dialogue or the actually plotline. Jeez =/

Here Here, couldnt agree more with you. Im a massive fan of GOT, unfortunately not having read the books I can only comment on the show. For the first time last night I hated it, it was all talk and the talk was utter shit, the actual plotline now is well appalling, D&D are just in it for the fans now, its literally just fanfiction. From articles i have read, it wouldnt  be like this if  George RR Martin was involved. Season 7 has been on a downward spiral and i really hope it picks up. It feels we are back at Season one.

1 hour ago, SuperMario said:

Any episode with Littlefinger still alive automatically gets no more than a 4. Horrible dialogue. Timelines make even less sense than before, if that's possible. Sandra is a master armorer now

Lady Olenna's final scene with Larry saved it from being a 1. It gets a 3 in my book.

Little finger still alive is a joke, he should have been killed or very very soon. The context is pointless and boring. I used to ignore timelines but as said its getting ridiculous. I also hate the fact things that shouldnt be overlooked are and then there is screen time for stuff that serves no relevance to the plot or any part of it. The bad scenes massively over rid the good scenes, there was a good few well thought out scenes ie the one with Dany and Jon, Ollena's confession too, I did feel bad for Jamie as he tried to do the nice thing but was served some home truths along with Joffreys murder.

3 hours ago, ummester said:

Bran is supposed to be creepy - if the story ends up where I think it's going, Bran will end up one of the biggest monsters.

Tyrion has always been overrated and Dinklage's acting definitely is - without GRRM's dialogue, the character is nothing.

They are just setting it up for Dany to get stress and go full dragon on Westeros, unleashing the Dothraki and fire, so that she inherrits a throne of ash like in her show House of the Undying vision.

What's really hilarious to me now about Dany's whole assault on Westeros is that all her Dothraki will probably end up getting killed and raised by the Night's King, so she will have to torch 100,000 frozen Dothraki screamers

maybe in the books hes super creepy but there has been nothing in the show to suggest hes super creepy, only now, lets pick the worst seen imagineable and remind his sister of it, this is f**ked up. Im not so sure on Bran becoming a monster intentionally. 

Tyrion i dont think has been over rated but last season or two yes he is now so partially agree. 

They have been stupid to think and daenerys has been stupid to let her think its going to be a war of no bloodshed, I agree now its going to be a massive build up to the Dothraki and her dragons battling the lannister and tyrell army in open field.  

Here is a little explanation on why it was definitely down at bottom with the worst episodes.

• We get the argument that the final two battling for the IT will be Cersei and the NK, which would leave me slightly upset when Daenerys eventually unites.
• The episode plays out like it did all that time ago in season 1, when important and prominent battles took place away from the viewers eager eyes and were confirmed afterwards i.e tyrion knocked on the head an the battle is over when he awakes. Back in season 1 this quite clearly a budget issues but as we are in season 7 it has more money than the rest. Yes we didn't need to see the full battle but having Tyrion voice over a few snapshots provided me with no fulfilment.
• Jon is getting worse and worse at conveying what he means to us, he just keeps going on and on about the AoD at any point. He's becoming the kid no one wants to sit next to in school, due to his negativity.
• Brans return was pretty dreadful and he was just emotionless and expressionless and he just seemed so fucking creepy and weird.
• Tyrion was a really clever little man, he thought of most situations and back in season 2 we seem him take control of the defense of kings landing in the Battle of Blackwater Bay, he was the real saviour of the city. Somehow hes basically indirectly let all Daenerys Allies be destroyed. Too me he is definitely arrogant and just overseeing everything that he would have seen previously, surely he could have forseen or atleast guessed that Euron would be out there somewhere and would have gone to Cersei. GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER TYRION. 
• High garden, to start how can no one in Daenery Council for see that High Garden was the place to sack for the Lannisters. again in reference to point 2 this could fall into that category. They are too consumed in their own thoughts that what the Enemy is thinking.
• Battle scenes looked like they were rushed when put together and were last minute things. Again is this a budget thing to hold back for something huge and spectacular?
• How did Bran and Meera get back quicker than Arya to Winterfell.

Parts that I did like 

• Jon and Daenerys meeting, through the scenes they got closer and closer and that was portrayed to the audience in a very clear way. 
• The idea that Good vs Evil is a little to easy in the fact that Daenerys defeats Cersei, teams up with Jon and then defeats the NK etc. What happens if Cersei is actually the Hero of Game of Thrones, shes the one who is learning from her mistakes time and time again, her low points and horrible situations, what happens if she is the protagonist we should be rooting for.
• Olennas reveal of her killing king Joffrey, would have been nice if she dropped little finger in it too.
• I love the foreshadowing i.e how indestructible the dragons are, sure one is going to die soon.
• Poetic in the way she enacts her revenge against Ellaria by kissing Tyene with the same poison she used on Myrcella.

Im always up for criticism so please let me know what you think. 

Here is a little explanation on why it was definitely down at bottom with the worst episodes.

• We get the argument that the final two battling for the IT will be Cersei and the NK, which would leave me slightly upset when Daenerys eventually unites.
• The episode plays out like it did all that time ago in season 1, when important and prominent battles took place away from the viewers eager eyes and were confirmed afterwards i.e tyrion knocked on the head an the battle is over when he awakes. Back in season 1 this quite clearly a budget issues but as we are in season 7 it has more money than the rest. Yes we didn't need to see the full battle but having Tyrion voice over a few snapshots provided me with no fulfilment.
• Jon is getting worse and worse at conveying what he means to us, he just keeps going on and on about the AoD at any point. He's becoming the kid no one wants to sit next to in school, due to his negativity.
• Brans return was pretty dreadful and he was just emotionless and expressionless and he just seemed so fucking creepy and weird.
• Tyrion was a really clever little man, he thought of most situations and back in season 2 we seem him take control of the defense of kings landing in the Battle of Blackwater Bay, he was the real saviour of the city. Somehow hes basically indirectly let all Daenerys Allies be destroyed. Too me he is definitely arrogant and just overseeing everything that he would have seen previously, surely he could have forseen or atleast guessed that Euron would be out there somewhere and would have gone to Cersei. GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER TYRION. 
• High garden, to start how can no one in Daenery Council for see that High Garden was the place to sack for the Lannisters. again in reference to point 2 this could fall into that category. They are too consumed in their own thoughts that what the Enemy is thinking.
• Battle scenes looked like they were rushed when put together and were last minute things. Again is this a budget thing to hold back for something huge and spectacular?
• How did Bran and Meera get back quicker than Arya to Winterfell.

Parts that I did like 

• Jon and Daenerys meeting, through the scenes they got closer and closer and that was portrayed to the audience in a very clear way. 
• The idea that Good vs Evil is a little to easy in the fact that Daenerys defeats Cersei, teams up with Jon and then defeats the NK etc. What happens if Cersei is actually the Hero of Game of Thrones, shes the one who is learning from her mistakes time and time again, her low points and horrible situations, what happens if she is the protagonist we should be rooting for.
• Olennas reveal of her killing king Joffrey, would have been nice if she dropped little finger in it too.
• I love the foreshadowing i.e how indestructible the dragons are, sure one is going to die soon.
• Poetic in the way she enacts her revenge against Ellaria by kissing Tyene with the same poison she used on Myrcella.

Im always up for criticism so please let me know what you think. 

For once I in the entirety of GOT im gobsmacked to how bad it was, Im literally lost for words.  

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