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No, there is no textual evidence. In the books. I don't know about the App. The only specific thing that was said about Lyanna's age is this - AGOT, Ned I - "Lyanna had only been sixteen, a child-woman of surpassing loveliness." <- at the time of her death, in late 283 AC, she was 16. So it seems that readers just assumed that in 281, at the time of that tournament, which was held approximately 2 years prior to Lyanna's death, Lyanna was two years younger, and thus 14. Though if you are open for theoretising, I have more precise estimates concerning Lyanna's age. In my opinion Lyanna was Sagittarius, because there was two clues in ADWD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_(astrology) On the pictures Sagittarius looks like a Centaur - half-horse half-human. And it was said in the books about Lyanna - 1. ADWD, chapter 41 - "Brandon was fostered at Barrowton with old Lord Dustin, the father of the one I’d later wed, but he spent most of his time riding the Rills. He loved to ride. His little sister took after him in that. A pair of centaurs, those two." 2. "and Roose Bolton states that Lyanna was "half a horse herself".[20] " Sagittariuses are born thru November 22 - December 21. In my opinion the tournament at Harrenhal was held in late October and thru early November. Specifically the day when Lyanna entered the lists as the Knight of the Laughting Tree, was October 31st - Halloween. Tournament lasted 10 days, seven of which were dedicated to jousting. The mystery knight had appeared mid tourney. So it was on the fifth day of the tournament, which then places the tournament in October 27 - November 5. Jon was born (maybe) on the day of autumnal equinox (it's a day when the duration of nighttime and daylight is equal, and after this day each next day becomes shorter and each next night becomes longer) - on September 23, 283. Thus Lyanna died aged 16, in 283, shortly prior her 17th birthday. And she and Rhaegar got married as soon as she turned 16 years old, in December of 282. Which makes perfect sense, because then as a sixteen years old adult, Lyanna didn't needed her father's agreement for her wedding with whomever she wanted to marry. This places Lyanna's birth in November 22 - December 21 of 266 AC, which means that at the time of the Harrenhal's tournament, Lyanna was 14 years old. Though later that same year she had turned 15, 1-2 months after the tournament.

ADWD, Tyrion II - "Another passage from The Seven-Pointed Star came back to him. “The Maid brought him forth a girl as supple as a willow with eyes like deep blue pools, and Hugor declared that he would have her for his bride. So the Mother made her fertile, and the Crone foretold that she would bear the king four-and-forty mighty sons. The Warrior gave strength to their arms, whilst the Smith wrought for each a suit of iron plates." It appears that on Planetos in the ancient past people had long lifespans, each of them lived for centuries or maybe even for thousands of years. Same as it was in the Bible: So each next generation of God-on-Earth's descendants had shorter lifespan than their ancestors. Though those first people - those that had lived during and after the First Long Night, and during the Age of Heroes, - each of them lived for several centuries. God-on-Earth - (his son) Pearl Emperor - Jade Emperor - Tourmaline - Onyx - Topaz - Opal - Amethyst Empress, (her brother - Bloodstone Emperor) - (her son) Azor Ahai. If God-on-Earth lived on Planetos for 10.000 years, and each of his next descendants had lived less, then could be that the Pearl Emperor had lived for 9.000 years, Jade for 8, Tourmaline for 7, Onyx for 6, Topaz for 5, Opal for 4, Amethyst for 3, and thus Azor Ahai possibly was ~2.000 years old when he died. Considering that during the First Long Night to forge Lightbringer Azor Ahai sacrificed Nissa Nissa, who was his fourth wife, it seems likely that by that time Azor's first 43 sons (the last of which was Nissa's) were already born. It's likely that by the time of the First Long Night's beginning Azor was already over a 1.000 years old, and his first wife - the mother of proto-Valyrians, was also several centuries old, and so were her children, each of whom already had their own wife and children and grandchildren and so on. And thus when Azor's family migrated from Asshai thru Valyria and to Westeros, it wasn't just Azor, his 44 sons and 4 wives (minus Nissa), instead it was 44 tribes, 40 of which then settled at Valyria, and the last 4 kept going to Westeros, where they founded House Hightower, Corbray, Dayne and Swann. It wasn't just the first Lord Hightower and his half-siblings - the first Lord Corbray, first Lord Dayne and the first Lord Swann. Instead it was several dozens of Hightowers, Corbrays, Daynes and Swanns - not only the first Lords and their wives, but also their children, and grandchildren, and great-grandchildren, and great-great-grandchildren, and so on (because their lifespan was several hundreds years long), and their servants and other members of their household - they were migrating en masse, same as Targaryens did prior the Doom. So Azor's first wife was living for ~2.000 years (same as Azor), and she was giving birth to one child, for example, every 5-10 years, so she was done with childbirth after 200-400 years of her life, in span of which she gave birth to those 40 sons, who later founded 40 Valyrian Great Houses. That woman, compared to Queen Alysanne (who had lived for 64 years and was birthing childen from when she was aged 16 years old and until she was aged 44 - in total 28 years of her life (13 children), which is a bit less than half of her lifespan or 43,75%), had spent considerably lesser amount of her time on reproduction. She was done with childbearing in 10 or 20% of her life's duration. If each of her 40 sons were born in span of a singular pregnancy, then she has spent ~1600 weeks/30 years or merely 1,5% of her lifetime being pregnant. Queen Alysanne was pregnant ~520 weeks/9,97 years or 15,57% out of her lifetime being pregnant. Azor's wife 1,5% VS Queen Alysanne 15,57%. That's ten times worse. Or in other words the mother of Valyrians had it ten times better than Alysanne. And you pitty her and not Alysanne, or Queen Rhaella who had lived for only 39 years and was pregnant 11 times. I don't know about Rhaella's three miscarriages, though amongst her other pregnancies one ended two months premature and the remaining 7 were fulltermed, thus she was pregnant 312 weeks/5,98 years or 15,33% out of her lifetime. Which is again 10 times worse than the situation with Azor's wife. So she was not a poor woman, despite giving birth to 40 babies. Her situation was 10 times better than Alysanne's or Rhaella's. You're pitying the wrong woman. And let's not forget about Hugor's wife - she also gave birth to 44 sons. <- that's actually why I figured out that Azor Ahai also possibly had 44 sons, though unlike Hugor, he had more than one wife, instead he had five, which is a parallel fo the Fiery Hand of R'hllor - five fingers / five wives. And there was 40 Valyrian dragonlords, and Valyria looks like a downturned thumb, and thumb is the first finger, thus the mother of 40 Valyrians was Azor Ahai's first wife and she was a parallel to Hugor's wife, in a sense that she also was made fertile by the Mother (one of the Seven Gods, that possibly were aliens and not deities, same as the God-on-Earth, who was also a visitor from another planet). Logical, isn't it?

I have a theory (it's part 16 of the Swan Song, link is in my signature) that Azor Ahai had five wives - the first wife gave birth to 40 sons (in parallel to 40 sons of Hugor of the Hill - the First King of the Andals), and they were the founders of the 40 Valyrian Great Houses; the second wife's son founded House Hightower; the third wife's son founded House Corbray; the fourth wife's (Nissa Nissa's) son founded House Dayne; and the fifth wife's son founded House Swann. So the founder of House Corbray and the founder of House Targaryen were half-brothers. Maybe. At least I think so. The founder of House Baratheon was Aegon the Conqueror's bastard half-brother. Them being half-siblings was enough to create a multiple-generations-long bond between Baratheons and Targaryens. And the founder of House Corbray was not a bastard half-sibling of the first Targaryen, instead they were legitimate siblings. So their bond was stronger than the bond between Aegon's and Orys' descendants. The only difference is that we don't know about those marriages that possibly have occured in the past between Corbrays and their Valyrian relatives. Besides that one between the Corbray and Gaemon the Glorious' daughter. Maybe.

I think that it could have been the father of Leowyn and Corwyn Corbrays. Because: Gaemon's daughter - 1 her son / Aerys Targaryen (they were from the same generation), 2 Daemion, 3 Aerion, 4 Aegon I, 5 Aenys I, 6 Jaehaerys I, 7 Aemon, 8 Rhaenys, 9 Laena Velaryon - Rhaena Targaryen's mother, and Rhaena married with Corwyn Corbray. If Corwyn was from the same generation as Rhaena, then his father was from the same generation as Rhaena's mother - Laena Velaryon, and Laena was from the 9th generation after Gaemon's daughter. Also the name of Corwyn's father isn't known, which fits with "Unnamed nobleman". Also, if Corbrays were distant relatives of the Targaryens, then it explains their involvement into their family affairs, such as "Ser Corwyn brought Lady Daenaera Velaryon forward at the Maiden's Day Ball when Baela and Rhaena put her forward as a potential second wife for the king. Favoring the young Daenaera, the king did indeed wed her.[7]"

Alyssa died in late 284, after her 24th birthday, and Saera's scandal has occured in early 284, in spring. "The 83rd year after Aegon’s Conquest is remembered as the year of the Fourth Dornish War…" "Jaehaerys Targaryen and his sons Aemon and Baelon had been waiting as well, and as Morion’s fleet beat its way across the Sea of Dorne, the dragons Vermithor, Caraxes, and Vhagar fell on them from out of the clouds. " "The Fourth Dornish War was fought and won in a single day. " "Prince Baelon had another cause for celebration as well. His wife, Alyssa, was again with child. This time, he told his brother Aemon, he was praying for a girl. Princess Alyssa was brought to bed again in 84 AC. After a long and difficult labor, she gave Prince Baelon a third son, a boy they named Aegon, after the Conqueror." "One of Saera’s japes was their undoing. On a warm spring night in 84 AC, shouts and screams from a brothel called the Blue Pearl drew the notice of two men of the City Watch." "It was not to be. Alyssa Targaryen had a warrior’s heart in a woman’s body, and her strength failed her. She never fully recovered from Aegon’s birth, and died within the year at only four-and-twenty. Nor did Prince Aegon long survive her. He perished half a year later, still shy of his first nameday. " "Late that year, 60 AC, she was delivered of her fifth child, a daughter she named Alyssa after her mother." Aegon died in 85. His mother, Alyssa, died 6 months earlier. She was born in late 60, so she died in late 284, past her 24th birthday. It's not clear when exactly did Alyssa gave birth to her last child - already after Saera's escape, or before it. Though it's definite that Alyssa died already after Saera left.

Could be that Meryn Trant is a Faceless Man, same as Syrio Forel. So they faked their fight while Arya was still there, and then Meryn let Syrio escape to the dungeons, where he went back into his cell and put on Jaqen's face.

Wow! I didn't knew that family trees could be made thru codes. Thanks a lot.

Does anyone know what program/template is used here to make family trees? -> https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Stark#Family_tree I want to make a family tree like that. How can I get access to that program? Can that program be used on THIS forum, to insert a family tree created with that template into a thread here? Or is that program could be used only inside awoiaf part of the website, only at the Wikia-side?

https://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Many_Questions/ Q "whether Dany has any kin in Lys because of Aerion Brightfire's exile" A "Aerion Brightfire did not stay in Lys all his life, only a few years. He may have fathered a few bastards there, which would mean Dany has "relatives" of a sort in Lys... but they would be very distant relatives, from the wrong side of the blanket." If there was only one child, then GRRM would have said that he may have fathered a bastard there. If there was two children, then he would have said - he may have fathered a couple of bastards there. Though GRRM specifically phrased that he may have fathered a few bastards there, which means that there was more than two. Aerion didn't spent at Lys many many yeras, just a few, but more than two. And because GRRM is frequently using trinities in ASOIAF and his other works, seems that three children is the most likely option. You know, like three bastard-children of Saera Targaryen, three bastard-children of Aegon IV, born by Bellegere Otherys. Thus, to complete a set of trinities, there should be one more set of three bastards by Targaryen+someone across the Narrow Sea-parents. Three bastards fathered by Aerion seems to be a likely option.

I'm currently working on my Grand Theory, 16 interconnected threads. I think I'll gradually post them in June or July. Look then for a thread "Swan Song part 3/16. Larra Rogare, a chameleon and a cat-woman". There I will provide plenty of evidences. Indisputable.

Baelor Breakspear was killed by a Faceless Man. I'm serious, it's not a fanfiction, crackpot or tinfoil. Baelor really was killed by a Faceless Man, not by prince Maekar. It was one of the Kingsguards. Really. He doesn't remember striking Baelor because that didn't happened, it wasn't one of Maekar's hits that killed Baelor, it was done by one of the Kingsguards, who was a Faceless Man. Actually, out of the three Kingsguards present in The Hedge Knight novel, two were Faceless Men - Roland Crakehall and Donnel of Duskendale. Those two were plotting something when Dunk approached them. "By the time Dunk left the stable, Lord Ashford had escorted his princely guests into the hail, but two of the Kingsguard knights in their white armor and snowy cloaks still lingered in the yard, talking with the captain of the guard." They kept the third Kingsguard out of the loop, and later he was the only one who got seriously wounded during the Trial of Seven. The Kingsguard who was taken out of action in the beginning of the fight was Willem Wylde, the only Kingsguard who was not a Faceless Men, and then one of the other two attacked Baelor. I think that Robyn Rhysling was fighting against Donnel of Duskendale (because their names have double letters in them - RR vs DD), thus Baelor was killed by the Faceless Man who was using Roland Crakehall's identity. Also his name is kind of hinting - Crakehall and Baelor skull cracked. This - He saw Prince Baelor gallop past, lance still intact, and drive one of the Kingsguard from his saddle. <- Crakehall. Wylde -> Another of the white knights was already down, and Maekar had been unhorsed as well. The third of the Kingsguard was fending off Ser Robyn Rhysling. <- Donnel of Duskendale. "One of the Kingsguard knights was carrying a wounded brother from the field. They both looked alike in their white armor and white cloaks. The third of the white knights was down" <- Wylde was unconsciousness, and the other two pretended that one of them is wounded, Crakehall, who earlier was driven from his saddle by Baelor. Dunk saw Donnel taking Crakehall off the field, and Baelor with the Laughing Storm were fighting against Maekar. Then Baelor got pressed out of that fight by Baratheon, who continued to beat Maekar solo. In a span of time when Dunk didn't saw Baelor, when the audience's attention was held by what Dunk was doing to Aerion and when later people gathered around wounded Dunk and no one was looking at Baelor, Crakehall, unnoticed by anyone, came back and hit Baelor on the head. If Baelor's skull was damaged while he was fighting against Maekar alongside with Baratheon, then he would have fallen still there during that fight. Instead he was hit later, mere moments prior he approached Dunk and this happened - When Maekar's fight with Baratheon ended, Baelor was with Maekar and maester Yormwell, who treated Maekar's wounds. If Baelor had brain injury then, then the maester would have noticed it, his slurred speech, uncoordinated movements, etc. Also Baelor was there with the maester and his brother for several minutes and he was OK then. After he made sure that Maekar also was OK, he went to check on Dunk, and that's when he was hit, on his way to where Dunk was. Even if Baelor didn't died immediately after the attack, and would have said that Crakehall hit him, no one would have taken that seriously, because Crakehall had an alibi - earlier people saw him being carried off the field by Donnel. Also, after the hit Baelor's brain was damaged and thus he was confused and didn't even comprehended what happened. That it wasn't one of Maekar's hits that damaged his head, that instead someone had hit him already after that fight ended. Someone approached him and hit him out of the blue. And that someone was Crakehall, who wasn't even supposed to be on the field, because earlier he was carried off it. Prior Baelor was hit, he was going to Dunk, and when he got hit and his brain got damaged, he kept doing what he was doing prior the attack. He was sort of on auto-pilot. This sort of thing sometimes happen to people with brain injury. There were cases when people were shot in the head, or stabbed with a knife, or by accident shot themselves in the head with a nail gun, and they kept going doing whatever they were doing, without realising that they were wounded. Both Baelor and Maekar mistakenly thought that it was one of Maekar's hits that damaged Baelor's head. Though, if that was the case, then with the kind of trauma that Baelor sustained, he would have fallen and died while Dunk was still dealing with Aerion, not so much time later. And thus the hit had occured later. And it wasn't caused by Maekar. Thus, Baelor Breakspear was killed by a Faceless Man. ~~~ It seems that Faceless Men remained in Targaryen court since Jaehaerys' reign, or maybe they were there even before that. Could be that Maegor the Cruel also was killed by a Faceless Man. Other Targaryens that were possibly killed by FM - 10 children of Jaehaerys and Alysanne, Aegon II, Jaehaera (first wife of Aegon III, supposedly commited suicide), Helaena (Jaehaera's mother, who also supposedly commited suicide. Though in the book there were hints about both the mother and the daughter that their death was not a result of suicide), ... in the period of time between Aegon III's reign and Aegon IV's reign the court was under control of the witches (shadowbinders, Johanna Swann, Larra/Serenei), thus the Faceless Men would have been detected by them, and thus Braavos' influence was kept out of the 7K from 131 and until 184 AC or maybe even until 200+. In 209 AC at least two of the Kingsguards were Faceless Men, and maybe there were others besides them, not necessary Kingsguards. After 209 AC FM possibly killed this people - Baelor Breakspear, Daeron the Drunken (he was a threat for Braavosi because he had prophetic dreams. As I already wrote in one of my previous posts here - accidents could be faked or caused. Modern-day assassins frequently use car crashes to kill their targets. Princess Diana, for example. The horse accidents also could be caused. For example, (I either saw it in a TV-series or have read it in a book) if something like pepper powder will be applied on the bottom side of a saddle, then when the horse will become sweaty after certain amount of riding, the powder will become wet and will begin burning the horse's skin under the saddle, which will cause the horse to become mad with pain and running wildly, trying to get away from it, in this case it's nearly impossible for the rider not to fall off, or the horse will run into a wall/other obstacle or will run off a clif), Aerion Brightflame, Aerys I, Rhaegel (that lamprey pie could have been poisoned), Aelor, Aelora, Maekar I, maybe the Summerhall's burning is also FM's doing, Steffon Baratheon and his people were killed by Patchface who is a Faceless Man. Also the Sealords of Braavos made three attempts to hatch those three dragon eggs that were delivered to Braavos by Elissa Farman. Three bastards of Saera Targaryen, three bastards of Aegon IV and Bellegere Otherys (the Sealord's granddaughter), three bastards of Aerion Brightflame (that he fathered during his exile to Lys).

If Gyles Morrigen really was a Faceless Man (and I'm sure in this, nearly 100%) then what happened to Saera Targaryen could be seen in a new light. Could be that Ryam Redwyne, Robin Shaw, and Robert Redwyne (new commander of the City Watch) also were Faceless Men. For some reason several years later they got rid of Lucamore Strong, probably he was getting into their way. From then on out of 7 Kingsguards 4 were Faceless Men (Morrigen, Redwyne, Shaw, and whoever replaced Lucamore, maybe Clement Crabb). Blue Pearl / parallel to the Black Pearls of Braavos. It seems to me that Saera was set up by the Faceless Men. The Sealord of Braavos from his people that were Kingsguards found out that to hatch a dragon egg what is necessary is a baby with dragon-blood. Saera went to Essos and gave birth to three bastards. Three eggs, three dragonseed-children. Though, when the eggs still didn't hatched, that Sealord's grandson, who was also a Sealord and a grandfather of Bellegere Otherys (the First Black Pearl of Braavos), introduced his granddaughter to Aegon, when Aegon came to Braavos as an envoy. Him and Bellegere were in a relationship for 10 years, and she gave birth to three of his children. Three dragonseeds again. That's because the Sealord (a different Sealord) still had those three eggs that Braavosi got from Elissa Farman. And then the latest Sealord (the one who loves cats, who gave the title the First Sword of Braavos to Syrio Forel (who is also a Faceless Man - Jaqen/Alchemist/fPate)) gave those three dragon eggs to mummer-dwarfs - Hop-Bean, Penny and Oppo, who then gave them to Illyrio, who then gave them as a wedding gift to Daenerys. It seems that Ryam on purpose gave bad advices and made bad decisions. Maybe this three deaths also were orchestrated by the Faceless Men; If after her child's birth Alyssa was feeling not well, no one would have suspected that she is slowly poisoned. Aegon also was killed by the Faceless Men. Same thing with Daella, if after her child's birth she had a fever, no one would have suspected that this fever is caused by poison and not by childbirth. FM were artificially diminishing quantity of active dragonriders in Targaryen family. They poisoned, or killed by other means, this Targaryens - little Daenerys, Daella, Alyssa, little Aegon, Baelon (it's kind of suspicious that he died less than a year after becoming the King's Hand, after replacing the previous Hand - Ryam Redwyne, who was a Faceless Man), Aemon (who was supposedly killed by one of the Myrish exiles, who actually was a Faceless Man), Viserra (accidents could be faked or caused), Maegelle (she died from greyscale, though she was a hindrance for the Faceless Men, because whenever Jaehaerys and Alysanne had a quarrel, which prevented them from having more children, they were reconciled by Maegelle, thus FM had to get rid of her). Vaegon became a maester, so he was not a threat, because he was not a dragonrider. Saera was effectively removed from Targaryen family and then used as a breeder of children with dragonblood that were required by the Sealord to hatch owned by him three dragon eggs. Gaemon died when he was a bit less than three months old, and Valerion died a fortnight before his first nameday. Both could have been poisoned. Four of the Kingsguards were Faceless Men and they had unrestricted access to all Targaryens, it would have been awfully easy for them to do the poisoning. If a little child died in a cradle, no one will suspect that he/she was poisoned, instead of dying from natural causes. It was hard to get to Gael, she was always with her mother, and thus while she was still a child, FM were unable to kill her. Though, when she became older, they used different means to get her. Could be that the traveling singer who seduced her, actually was one of the Faceless Men. It looks like out of Jaehaerys' and Alysanne's 13 children only their firstborn, Aegon, died from natural causes, 10 others were killed by the Faceless Men, Vaegon was spared because as a maester he didn't became a dragonrider, and Saera was used by FM as a breeder. My musings seems farfetched, though just think about it - if there are only several active (or potential) dragonriders amongst Targaryens, then they are not a threat to Braavos or anyone else. Also it seems likely that the events that led to the Dance of the Dragons also were orchestrated by the Faceless Men. That way they effectively got rid of all dragons (except those three eggs that were owned by the Sealord, thus if he (or his successor) managed to hatch them, then only Braavos would have had dragons). I haven't read the part of Fire&Blood between Jaehaerys' reign and the Lyseni Spring, though I think that somewhere there there should be clues that reveal the presense of the Faceless Men at Targaryen court in that period.

Same as septon Barth, you misunderstood the meaning of what the Sealord said, this was not a threat, not - while you were here talking with me, my people killed your knight. "Knights, yes. Such as the man who waits for you outside. If indeed he is still waiting. What would you say if I were to tell you that Ser Gyles is already dead?” instead it was - the knight with whom you came here is not who you think he is, the real Ser Gyles is already dead, and the man who waits for you outside is one of my people, one of the Faceless Men. Barth and his escort arrived to Braavos, and went to spend a night at a local hotel (or something like that, because they wouldn't have went to their audience with the Sealord while still tired and dirty from their voyage). On that night Gyles was killed by the Faceless Men who then took his face. Next morning, when Barth went to meet with the Sealord, Ser Gyles that escorted him, was actually a Faceless Man. Faceless Men kill those people for whose death they were paid. Though the girl herself didn't killed anyone. That's incorrect. The Barefoot Girl was the best option. fGyles couldn't have risked his own position at Targaryen court. He was supposed to watch Targaryens, and not to make any deviations to his role as Gyles. He was guarding(spying) the King, that was his sole mission. Probably some other Faceless Man was hired by the newly appointed High Septon to kill Daenerys, and even if fGyles did provided some support to his colleague, that support was limited to the sharing of information, not active participation in that other assassin's assignment. Also, if FM needed unlimited access to the kitchens, then it was easier for them to infiltrate the castle while using a new face, than to kill someone who already served in the kitchens to then use his/her face on this assignment. Example 1: a Faceless Man kills one of the kitchen's stuff and takes his/her place. For sucessfull impersonation of this person, FM has to be able to cook as good as that person, or to know well everything that this person is supposed to do in the kitchens, and to do all that. Because the kitchen's stuff was taken there to work, not to dawdle or do unnecessary things. If this person will suddenly begin acting strange, and then, after Daenerys' death supposedly from a sickness, this employee will disappear, then the other people at the castle will eventually connect his disappearance, his suspicious behaviour prior that disappearance, and will eventually connect him to Daenerys' death. And that would have ruined the original plan, the point of which was to make Daenerys' death to look like a will of Gods, not like a poisoning or something suspicious. Gyles was killed on the Braavosi territory, in the hotel owned by the Sealord, where everyone were Sealord's men/Faceless Men and their helpers (Iron Bank and the Faceless Men are two sides of the same coin, and both of those organizations are ruled by the Sealord. Aria's Kindly Man is the current Sealord, Ferrego Antaryon). The hotel's stuff made sure that while Gyles was killed and skinned, his companions from Westeros were kept away. They could have snatched him from his room and killed him elsewhere, in any other room of that hotel. And afterwards there was no problems in getting rid of the body. Back to Westeros - there are always people everywhere in the castle. And the servants' quarters and serving passages are more populated than the places where the masters reside. They sleep many people in the same room, they work all together and know each other fairly close. Would be nearly impossible to snatch someone from the serving areas and to find a quiet place to skin-off his/her face and then to dispose of the body. As you noted yourself, taking faces is a long procedure, and a messy one. Also, for this option an innocent person will have to die - the servant from the kitchens. And the Faceless Men don't do unnecessary things like that. They weren't paid for this additional death, thus they won't kill anyone besides Daenerys. And there will be no need in that, because in case if a Faceless Man will come into the castle under identity of someone new, then he/she can just use a face of a girl that died at Braavos for whatever cause long ago, and whose face-mask is already a part of FM's wardrobe. Example 2: the Barefoot Girl provides aid to the King's knight to identify people that killed Rego Draz, for her help she gets a place at the kitchens. No one expects from her to be a master-chef or to know how their kitchens work. She has unrestricted access to all the food and cooking processes, and nobody paid any attention to her presence there. Some time after Daenerys' death, the girl just up and left. Maybe even said that she was contacted by a relative who wants to take her into his/her household, so she's leaving. And no one will think absolutely nothing about her departure, and won't connect her with Daenerys' death. Thus, Example 2 is an obvious choice.

Daenerys Targaryen, daughter of King Jaehaerys and Alysanne, didn't died from Shivers, she was poisoned. Pureblooded Targaryens are immune to human diseases. And it's not a theory, it's a fact. Here, the Sealord wasn't joking, Faceless Man killed and replaced the Kingsguard Gyles Morrigen: When Septon Barth went back to the 7K from Braavos, Gyles Morrigen that returned with him to Targaryen court was a Faceless Man, who was sent to the KL to watch over Targaryens, in case if they will plan to do something against Braavos or the Sealord. fGyles received a life-long assignment, same as Patchface, who is also a Faceless Man. Then the Faceless Men were hired (probably by the newly-appointed High Septon) to kill princess Daenerys in such a manner that it would have looked as if though she died from Shivers. The point of this act was to show to Targaryens that they are not above other people, that they are not above Gods, to counter their "Doctrine of Exceptionalism". Though it would have been suspicious if a Kingsguard was lingering in the kitchens, and thus he had to find a different entry there. Shortly prior Daenerys' death there was a different incident, at Dragonstone, this: The sickness was not a sickness at all, and only Rego Draz realised what was going on. He was poison-specialist, he did said “We know more of such things in the Free Cities”. That's why prior killing Daenerys, Faceless Man first had to remove Rego Draz, to prevent him from revealing to Targaryens that Daenerys' state is not result of a sickness, that the girl is poisoned. As a Kingsguard he knew what path Rego is using to get from his house to the Red Keep. So he orchestrated events in such a manner that on Rego's path appeared a raging mob. The woman that caused the mob to kill Rego, was a Faceless Man. Then she/he/it put on a face of a little girl, and brought the King's knights to one of those people who killed and robbed Rego. Those guys that attacked Rego, didn't had children, the girl lied that one of them was her father. As result of her acting she got a place in the kitchens, from where she had access to all the food that was served to Targaryens, and she poisoned Daenerys' food, the last meal on the New Year's Eve. The meal was modest, and the girl said “That’s where they keeps the bread.”, so it's likely that she poisoned the bread, an individual bread roll or a bun that was then served by her to Daenerys. Or the bread was given to Daenerys by a Kingsguard Gyles Morrigen. Probably he was there with the King's family, and when he passed the bread to little Daenerys, he gave her a specific roll/bun/piece just for her (with poison in it). The client who ordered the poisoning, has chosen Daenerys as the target, because she was everyone's favourite, and her death would have hit her parents the most. Daenerys' unexplainable death humbled Targaryens. That was the point. To make it look like a punishment from Gods. If a pureblooded Targaryen died from Shivers like a mere commoner, even though Targaryens are immune to human diseases, then her death was caused by Gods. And there was no Rego Draz there to tell them otherwise, like he did the previous time - “Sickness? This is no sickness.”

Who said that the war against the Others will be a short one? Who said that there will be only one or several battles? The previous Long Night lasted a generation, even though they had Azor Ahai in Essos and the Last Hero in Westeros. If White Walkers will pass The Wall and will spread all over Westeros, then it will take years and years to "kill" all of them. Don't confuse ASOIAF with the show, just because in the show the death of the Night's King resulted in the death of all the Others and all wights, it doesn't mean that that's how it works in the books too. This - "A tall lord with copper skin and silver-gold hair stood beneath the banner of a fiery stallion, a burning city behind him."- implies that Rhaego will be fighting against White Walkers and burning cities infested with zombies. The war will be still ongoing even when Rhaego will be already an adult. That vision is a vision of the future. Each second vision from a set, is a vision of the future. This vision about grown up Rhaego is a second vision in a set Daughter of death. Second vision in a set Slayer of lies is - "A cloth dragon swayed on poles amidst a cheering crowd." - this is fAegon being welcomed by people of 7K after his multiple victories, which will happen not far in the future from their current time, 300 AC. The second vision in the set Bride of fire is - "A corpse stood at the prow of a ship, eyes bright in his dead face, grey lips smiling sadly." - is also a vision of the future, it will happen before the event with fAegon. I figured out the timeline of all events from Dany's visions. The first vision in every set is a vision of recent events, recent past. Second vision is a vision of the future. And third vision in every set is a vision of event that happened in the far past, during Robert's Rebellion. And those visions in the books are not written in chronological order. For example, the first visions, those that are about the recent events - Viserys' death, Stannis being proclaimed Azor Ahai Reborn, Dany's wedding night with Drogo. The last one written, actually happened first, still in 297, Viserys died in 298, while the one with Stannis happened in 299. So one of the visions is purposefully placed not in chronological order. After figuring out what pattern was used by GRRM, this is my timeframe for those visions: 1. A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness. - this is something from the beginning of Robert's Rebellion, or even before. It's something about Rhaegar and Lyanna, possibly it's about Jon's conception. Or it's about Harrenhal's tournament, how Lyanna's and Rhaegar's love bloomed after it. So this happened either in 281 or in 282 AC, or in early 283. 2. Rubies flew like drops of blood from the chest of a dying prince, and he sank to his knees in the water and with his last breath murmured a woman’s name. - Rhaegar's death, 283 AC. 3. From a smoking tower, a great stone beast took wing, breathing shadow fire. - a lie about Jon's origin set wing and went into the world from the Tower of Joy, 283 AC, a month or so after Rhaegar's death. A stone beast is a chimera (you know like a gargoyle?), it's a mix of several different beings. In this case it's a mix of a direwolf and a dragon, because Jon is half-Stark and half-Targaryen. He is the stone beast. Jon living in lies (a smoke screen) made by Ned = breathing shadow fire, hiding his real identity. Jon being Ned Stark's bastard is one of those lies that Dany will slay. It doesn't mean that she will kill Jon, she will reveal the truth about his origin. 4. Her silver was trotting through the grass, to a darkling stream beneath a sea of stars. - Dany's wedding night in 297 AC. 5. Viserys screamed as the molten gold ran down his cheeks and filled his mouth. - Viserys' death at Vaes Dothrak in 298 AC. 6. Glowing like sunset, a red sword was raised in the hand of a blue-eyed king who cast no shadow. - Stannis at Dragonstone in 299 AC. 7. A corpse stood at the prow of a ship, eyes bright in his dead face, grey lips smiling sadly. - a close future. 8. A cloth dragon swayed on poles amidst a cheering crowd. - an event more distant in the future than the previous one. 9. A tall lord with copper skin and silver-gold hair stood beneath the banner of a fiery stallion, a burning city behind him. - distant future, 310+ AC, when Rhaego will be over 16 years old. Rhaego will bond with his dragon, Rhaegal, when they will meet. It doesn't matter when exactly he will actually ride that dragon. The dragon will be his, even if Rhaego won't fly with him/her until years later. There's already a magical link between Rhaego and Rhaegal, so Rhaegal won't accept any other riders. This - "Irri fetched the egg with the deep green shell, bronze flecks shining amid its scales as she turned it in her small hands. Dany curled up on her side, pulling the sandsilk cloak across her and cradling the egg in the hollow between her swollen belly and small, tender breasts. She liked to hold them. They were so beautiful, and sometimes just being close to them made her feel stronger, braver, as if somehow she were drawing strength from the stone dragons locked inside. She was lying there, holding the egg, when she felt the child move within her … as if he were reaching out, brother to brother, blood to blood. "You are the dragon," Dany whispered to him, "the true dragon. I know it. I know it." " Green egg is Rhaegal's. That's when they got linked. GRRM was inspired by The Lord of the Rings, and he said that ASOIAF's ending will be bittersweet, same as was LOTR's ending. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings#The_Return_of_the_King As you can see from that summary (in case if you haven't read LOTR and don't know how it ended) after the main battle was won, they had a wedding. But that's not the end of the story. Hobbits had to fight again, to free the Shire (their settlement). So in ASOIAF there will be some Big Battle between the Undead Army VS Dany, her Unsullied, Dothraki, Jon's Northerners and Wildlings, etc., they will win and then Jon and Dany will marry. (That's what happened in the LOTR, and in the Bible - it ended with a wedding between the Lamb/Jesus and his Bride. Jon is a parallel to the Lamb of God/Jesus. Rhaego and Dany are also parallels to Jesus, and to other Biblical characters. There's over a dozen of ASOIAF's characters who are parallels to Biblical characters. The Red Dragon (Varys), the Woman clothed with the Sun (Dany), four Horsemen of Apocalypse (the War on a red horse/Khal Drogo, the Death on a pale mare, etc.). The Great Harlot (Cersei), the Scarlet Beast (Euron), Antichrist (fAegon), the manyheaded Beast out of the Sea (Golden Company), the False Prophet (Littlefinger). King of kings and the Great Shepherd - son of the Woman clothed with the Sun (Rhaego). Mother Mary (Nissa Nissa, Dany). John the Baptist (Shiera Seastar, Bloodraven, Bran), Archangel Michael (Azor Ahai, Daynes), etc.) But it won't be the end of the war. Same as the lifting of Storm's End's siege officially was the end of the war, though there were still ongoing battles in the south. It will take years for the good guys to clear entire continent from the walking dead. The fight will still be ongoing even when Rhaego will be an adult. According to the Bible, Jesus was born only 2021 years ago, but the God Father and the Holy Spirit existed long before that, from the beginning of time. Jesus was a latecomer to their party, and so is Rhaego. Only after Jesus' birth the other two together with him became The Holy Trinity. Dany, Rhaego and Jon are the Holy Trinity of ASOIAF, the three-headed dragon from the prophecy about the Second Long Night. And it's totally irrelevant how old Rhaego is now, because later he will become older, and there will be that later, and a lot of that later, because Jon and Dany and their armies will defeat the main forces of the Others in the near future, in the end of ADOS. Though in the Epilogue of ADOS, which will be happening years after that Battle, GRRM will write a scene with Rhaego, who will be still fighting against the White Walkers and burning infested cities. Obviously, all of that are just my speculations, and I could be wrong about all of that, or some parts of that concept/my interpretation of ASOIAF. Or could be that I am right. . We'll see later.

EXACTLY!!! He never wrote anything like that in his other stories, thus him writing a story in which there will be clear sides - people are good, the Others are bad, and one side will exterminate the other side; and the human side will be saved by the Messiah, is GRRM subverting expectations - writing not how he usually wrote in his other stories. Yes?

What about Christian God and Allah? Are they bad, just because muslims state that all other people who are not muslims are infidels and will burn in hell, and because of what knights Templars did during their religious crusades? Just because Red Priests burn people alive, it doesn't mean that R'hllor asked them to do this, or that R'hllor cares who worships him or who doesn't. What people do in the name of their God, actually has nothing to do, at all, with that God's will. It seems that what the Others want, is to kill everyone, all the people in the world. Though, it doesn't seems like R'hllor wants to burn the entire world. So he is better than the Great Other, at least in that that the total annihilation of mankind is not on his To Do list. Would be kind of dumb to try and negotiate with them: They are butchers, they won't negotiate. They kill women, children, little babies, they slaughter animals. They kill everyone and everything alive, even those who didn't attacked nor in any way provoked them. Negotiations? Yeah, right.

R'hllor. To save Targaryens from the Doom. Because he had plans to use them in the future, during the Second Long Night. And Targaryens departing from Valyria didn't changed the outcome of what Daenys saw in her vision - the Doom of Valyria. Not the Doom of Targaryens. So, what was seen in the vision can't be changed/prevented, but other factors around that event/being/item/happening could be used by the prophet, or by whoever will know that prophecy.

Jon and Dany are parallels to Jesus and the Bride of the Lamb. In the Bible the wedding of the Bride and the Lamb is a simbolical union of the church, or whatever. The point is - Dany is the mother of dragons (Rhaego's mother, and she will have more childen with Jon after they will marry), and she is the bride of fire (because she will marry with Jon, and Jon is the fire/Azor Ahai Reborn (one of three)). 1 is about Dany giving birth to Rhaego, and 2 is about Dany becoming Jon's wife. Just think about this. What else is missing on this forum is a sighing smiley, or else I would have posted it here.

The part that AAR supposed to be a warrior, was recorded in the Book of Signs and Portents, written by Daenys the Dreamer. She's a trustworthy source of information, because what she previously predicted (the Doom of Valyria) did happened. Also she predicted in her book that the dragons will return. Egg said to Dunk that his grandfather, King Daeron II, have read that prophecy in a book. And that's the same book, reading which, Rhaegar thought that he is the Promised Prince (about this part he was wrong), and also that the Prince is supposed to be a warrior, and that the song of ice and fire will be his song. So it's not only Red Raloo's prophecy, it's also Daenys' prophecy. And what she predicted did happened once (about the Doom), twice (about the return of dragons), so it will happen third time too (Jon - the Promised Prince and wielder of Lightbringer, Dany - Mother of Dragons, Rhaego - the Stallion that mounts the world (whose birth was also predicted by the Dothraki prophets) and R'hllor's champion, born under the Bleeding Star.) As "the blood of the dragon"/Targaryens by blood, all three of them - Dany, Rhaego, and Jon - are "fire made flesh", same as dragons, thus all of them are one - R'hllor's weapon. The three-headed dragon. Same as Targaryen sigil, which represents Aegon and his sister-wives, or - House Targaryen as one entity. Sorry, but that's all wrong. The Others don't have agents. Both Bloodraven and Bran are not agents, rather they are snacks, food for the Weirwood, nothing more.

Jesus was crucified. His Father and the Holy Spirit weren't crucified. Jesus' mother was Mary. Mary wasn't the Father's mother, nor did she gave birth to the Holy Spirit. Jesus died, the God (Father) didn't. See here the controversity? Even though the Holy Trinity is one being, nevertheless they had different (life) experiences. Like Jesus was born, was growing up amongst people (for 33 years), died, was resurrected, went to Heaven. While the Father in the beginning of times was busy with creating the world, people, etc. And the Holy Spirit, prior the creation of the world, was roaming in space above nothingness, in which God then created the world. Etc. Three. Not the same. Or - the first dragon/head of the dragon is Dany. White the Great Wolf, or rather it was there - the man with a wolf's head, is Jon; and the man in flames is Rhaego/R'hllor's champion. If we had an applauding smiley, amongst Emojis available on this forum, then I would have posted it here. That's a fairly straightforward information from GRRM, thru Mel's vision he informed readers that Jon is Azor Ahai. I don't get it why people are arguing that Jon isn't, it's Dany and Dany only, and completely ignore the part that AAR is supposed to be a warrior, and he supposed to wield Lightbringer. The idea that Lightbringer is not a sword, but rather it's Dany's three dragons is laughable. Laughable and ridiculous.

Yes, it is one dragon, but that "dragon" has three heads - Dany, Rhaego and Jon are those three heads. Jon is the Prince that was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire, and he is Lightbringer's/Dawn's wielder; while Dany is the Mother of dragons, who awakened them fom stone; and Rhaego is R'hllor's champion and the Stallion that mounts the world - ACOK, Dany IV - "A tall lord with copper skin and silver-gold hair stood beneath the banner of a fiery stallion, a burning city behind him.". AGOT, Dany IX - "Her son was tall and proud, with Drogo’s copper skin and her own silver-gold hair, violet eyes shaped like almonds. And he smiled for her and began to lift his hand toward hers, but when he opened his mouth the fire poured out. She saw his heart burning through his chest, and in an instant he was gone, consumed like a moth by a candle, turned to ash." That's Biblical symbols - Jesus' burning heart (in ASOIAF it's R'hllor's symbol) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Heart Mother Mary's heart pierced with a sword/Nissa Nissa as a parallel to Mary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Heart_of_Mary Fire, which is R'hllor's weapon, coming out of Rhaego's mouth is a parallel to this scene fom the Bible: https://biblehub.com/bsb/revelation/19.htm "The Rider on the White Horse 11Then I saw heaven standing open, and there before me was a white horse. And its rider is called Faithful and True. With righteousness He judges and wages war. 12He has eyes like blazing fire, and many royal crowns on His head. He has a name written on Him that only He Himself knows. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood,c and His name is The Word of God. 14The armies of heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and pure, follow Him on white horses. 15And from His mouth proceeds a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with an iron scepter.d He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16And He has a name written on His robe and on His thigh: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS." Rhaego is Khal of khals. Khal means King, thus Rhaego is the King of kings, same as in the Bible the Second Jesus, the son of the Woman Clothed in the Sun. The armies of heaven in the Bible are horsemen, same as will be Rhaego's khalasar in which he will unite all other khalasars. When Rhaego was born, following the Bleeding Star, three wisemen from the east came to Dany to see her children. It's a parallel to how three wisemen from the east came to Mother Mary to se her son. They came to her while following the Star of Bethlehem/The Christmas Star. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_Bethlehem Jon is a parallel to the Lamb of God/Agnus Dei. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamb_of_God And fAegon/mummer's dragon is a parallel to Antichrist, while Golden Company is a parallel to the Beast out of the Sea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beast_(Revelation)#Beast_from_the_sea Varys is the Great Red Dragon/Satan, and Dany is the Woman Clothed in the Sun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_of_the_Apocalypse Cersei and Euron Greyjoy are the Great Harlot and the Scarlet Beast https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whore_of_Babylon Petyr Baelish is the False Prophet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_prophet#The_false_prophet_of_Revelation The part of ASOIAF about the Second Long Night is a parallel to the Book of Apocalypse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation There's too many Biblical elements in ASOIAF for those elements to be irrelevant or red herrings. And the three-headed dragon from the prophecy is three Messiahs, three Azor Ahais Reborn, three dragonriders. Why else GRRM added into the story not one, not two, not four, five or any other random number of dragons, but specifically three? Three dragons - three riders - three heads of the dragon, all three are King Jaehaerys' descendants, all three fulfill part of the prophecy about the Second Long Night, and each of them has his/her own role to play. You'll see later, I am right about this. P.S. Actually that part about the rider on white horse in the sky is not only parallel to Rhaego, it's also a parallel to Jon, who will be the only one who will know his real name - "Then I saw heaven standing open, and there before me was a white horse. And its rider is called Faithful and True. With righteousness He judges and wages war. 12He has eyes like blazing fire, and many royal crowns on His head. He has a name written on Him that only He Himself knows." Jon's dragon will be Viserion, which is white-gold-colored, so Jon is the rider on white "horse". He has many crowns because he is the King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men. As you can see - it's all very tightly interwined. GRRM on purpose wrote complex parameters for the Prince that was Promised, because it's three people TOGETHER, not one.

Azor Ahai was a priest, not a smith. ACOK, Davos I: He forged that sword for 180 days in total, that's 6 months. Unless he was a priest of that temple, it's unlikely that he would have had such an extended access to the sacred fires of that temple. Also because the fire is sacred in R'hllor's religion, it means that Azor Ahai was R'hllor's priest. That's how Melisandre knows the prophecy about Azor Ahai Reborn - the followers of the first Azor Ahai recorded that prophecy at Asshai. Azor was from Asshai, that's where was build first temple of R'hllor, not at Volantis. Just because Azor forged Lightbringer, doesn't mean that he was a smith. It's the same as - just because you can cook food, it doesn't make you a chef. @CamiloRP @Lilac & Gooseberries According to the prophecy - the dragon has three heads, so there are going to be three Messiahs (because there are three dragons). Each of those three will fullfil his/her part of the prophecy - Dany had awakened dragons from stone, Rhaego was born under the Bleeding Star, Jon will wield Lightbringer. The dragon from the prophecy is like the Holy Trinity from the Bible, only instead of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit we will have The Mother, The Son, and The Holy Ghost. Also all three of them - Dany, Rhaego, and Jon, are parellels to Biblical Jesus and the Second Coming of Jesus. ASOIAF is overflowing with Biblical symbolism. So are some of GRRM's other books, for example "The way of cross and dragon", "Call him Moses", "Manna from Heaven", "Loaves and Fishes". So, there are three Azor Ahais Reborn, not one.

I have some new information to add to my previous theories posted earlier in this thread (and elsewhere), here The summary of those posts is this: Johanna Swann, the Black Swan of Lys, was Larra Rogare's mother, and she worked as a courtesan in the Perfumed Garden; Serenei of Lys and Larra Rogare is the same person; Johanna, Larra/Serenei, and Shiera Seastar were cat-skinchangers; both Larra and her daughter Shiera are bloodmages and shadowbinders; Shiera and Quaithe is the same person, also she is the Three-Eyed Crow; fAegon's parents are Barristan Selmy (who is a Blackfyre on his mother's side) and septa Lemore (real name - Jeyne Swann, she is the Perfumed Seneschal, because her ancestor/relative, Johanna Swann, worked in the Perfumed Garden. Also Barristan and Jeyne are parallels to Florian the Fool and Lady Jonquil). Lady Jeyne's septa was Shiera in shadow-glamour, she used love potion on Barristan, after he saved Jeyne from the Kingswood Brotherhood; The fall of House Rogare was orchestrated by Johanna. Those people that died at Lys were Johanna's ex-clients. One of them she killed by skinchanging into a shadow-cat. Also she robbed Rogare Bank and gave those money to the Faceless Men, who then killed Drazenko and Lysandro Rogares. The poisoning incident that occured in the end of the Lyseni Spring was Larra's doing. In F&B, when King Aegon, Viserys and Sandoq the Shadow came out of the Maegor's Holdfast to talk with Marston Waters and Septon Bernard, Aegon wasn't Aegon, it was Larra in shadow-glamour. I noticed new elements in the books, elements connected to those ideas from above. The summary of my new theory (the one in the spoiler): Aegon III Targaryen died in 135 AC, childless. For the next 22 years, until his official death, thru the shadow-glamour King fAegon was impersonated (interchangeably) by Gaemon Palehair and Larra Rogare. And one more: "What is a valonqar? Some monster?" Could be that valoqar is not a who, it could be a what, a squid. Kraken. Euron. TWOW: "He saw his brother on the Iron Throne again, but Euron was no longer human. He seemed more squid than man, a monster fathered by a kraken of the deep, his face a mass of writhing tentacles." Cersei is a parallel to Biblical Great Harlot, and Euron is the Scarlet Beast. So could be that Cersei will be killed thru Euron, by a giant squid monster. "And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you." - tears are salty, so could be that Cersei will be drowning in a sea, and she will be grabed and strangeled by a squid. Euron will trow her overboard from his ship, to sacrifice her to his deity. EURON (while pushing Cersei overboard): I would like you to meet my "little brother". CERSEI: How can a person wrap his hands around someone's throat? Hands are not a scarf or a bandages. How do we know what the valonqar is? Could be that Cersei's septa either lied to her about the translation, or she herself didn't knew the meaning of that word, and thus she told what Cersei wanted to hear, that valonqar is a High Valyrian for a younger sibling. She knew that Cersei hated Tyrion, so she told her what she thought Cersei will like to hear, that it's her little brother who is big mean Bad of her life. Thus, could be that valoqar is not a "younger sibling". And thus Tyrion (Jaime, Sandor, Arya, or any other person who is a younger sibling) as the valonqar is just a red herring.

Or because Salladhor is one of Varys' agents, and thus Salla and Illyrio are working together, and the ship is really Illyrio's, and Salla didn't captured it, the ship was sent to him by Illyrio, as a payment for Salla's servises to Blackfyres.