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  1. Megorova

    Small Questions v. 10106

  2. Megorova

    Small Questions v. 10106

    That's not what I said. I said - "If she did saved Drogo, and restored his health and mind, then Drogo would have remained to be Khal of his khalasar, instead now that khalasar belongs to Rhaego, with Khal Pono as Rhaego's "regent". " You misunderstood it as "Drogo's death = Rhaego inherites his father's khalasar", but that's not what I meant. If Drogo survived, then he would have remained to be a Khal of his khalasar, and him together with Dany would have raised their child. With his father as a Khal of khalasar in which Rhaego lived, there would have been no any danger for Rhaego, no necessity to grow up faster, no necessity to prove anything to anyone, instead he would have been protected and sheltered by his Khal-father and Drogo's bloodriders. And eventually, when he would have been in his teens, his father's people would have started to treat Rhaego as the Stallion that mounts the world, and would have went on conquest with him to seize the world under his control. But with his father dead, Rhaego will have to grow up faster, to fight his own battles, even in his own khalasar, because Khal Pono won't be treating Rhaego same way as he would have been treated by his father. Who knows what's the real reason why Pono took Rhaego, have he done it because of his blood-pledge to Drogo, or because he is planning to use Rhaego and his status of the Stallion to gain power for himself. Seems that 10 thousands of Dothraki from Drogo's ex-khalasar decided to go with newly made Khal Pono specifically because Pono took Rhaego under his wing. They didn't joined Pono's khalasar, they joined Rhaego's khalasar. It's similar to the situation with the Stark family - if Ned didn't died, his children would have remained living a sheltered life for another 5 or so years. Instead - look at them now, especially Bran and Arya. Who were they before? -> just children, additions to their parents. But now they are independent individuals, now they are walking on their own life-path. Their parents were protecting and sheltering them, but at the same time - they were holding them back, preventing them from realising their potential. It could be compared to learning to ride a bicycle without training wheels. It's easier and safer to use them, but eventually you will have to take them off and learn to ride without them. For Rhaego Drogo would have played a role of training wheels. Rhaego is khal of khals, so he's going to lead khals, while those khals will continue to lead their khalasars. No, I didn't. Whaaaat? Where did I said that Drogo HAD to die, for Rhaego to get Drogo's khalasar? Rhaego will be leading ALL khalasars, but those khalasars will remain to be ruled by their original khals. Thus there's no need for any of those khals to die, not for Drogo not for anyone else. Example - multinational conglomerate company LVMH Moët Hennessy – Louis Vuitton SE, with Bernard Arnault as a CEO (chief executive officer). The company consists of dozens of other companies such as Louis Vuitton (CEO - Michael Burke), Bvlgari (CEO - Jean-Christophe Babin), Hennesy (CEO - Bernard Peillon), Givenchy (CEO - Philippe Fortunato), Christian Dior SE (CEO - Sidney Toledano, Chairman - Bernard Arnault), etc. Rhaego's mega-khalasar is like LVMH Moët Hennessy – Louis Vuitton SE, with multiple khalasars/companies as parts of it; Rhaego is like Bernard Arnault, who is a CEO of LVMH, and at the same time is a Chairman of the company Christian Dior SE, where CEO is Sidney Toledano. So (1.1)Khal Pono to (2.1)Rhaego and (3.1)ex-Drogo's khalasar is like (1.2)Sidney Toledano to (2.2)Bernard Arnault and (3.2)Christian Dior SE. And for Bernard Arnault to become a CEO of LVMH, none of those other CEOs, that lead all those companies, didn't had to die. If Drogo was still alive, then he would have been Rhaego's "Sidney Toledano" instead of Khal Pono. Get it? There's A LOT of them. 10+. For Rhaegal's life paid the life of a stallion, whose body was undernear Drogo's funeral pyre. The second egg hatched when the fire had reached under the logs and the horse's body started to burn. That's when the second egg hatched with the sound of thunder. Drogo's life paid for Drogon, Mirri Maz Duur's life paid for Viserion, and that horse's life paid for Rhaegal. Three bodies on funeral pyre, three dragons hatched. Rhaego wasn't there. Jorah wasn't there when Dany was giving birth to Rhaego. The man whom Dany saw as Jorah, the one who said that Rhaegar was the last dragon and then "melted" into thin air, was maester Marwyn not Jorah. (<- let's not start on it, just wait for the book). Jorah and Mirri agreed beforehand to lie to Dany about what happened to her baby. He was ashamed to had to lie to her about that. What for? I'll wait until the book will come out, and then there will be many threads how did readers missed that Rhaego is alive. And I will write there - "I told you so ". And if I was wrong, then I will post something with lots of and and .
  3. Megorova

    Small Questions v. 10106

    Seems that you missed the key point from Dothraki culture. AGOT, Dany IV - "Ser Jorah had explained that it was forbidden to carry a blade in Vaes Dothrak, or to shed a free man's blood. Even warring khalasars put aside their feuds and shared meat and mead together when they were in sight of the Mother of Mountains. In this place, the crones of the dosh khaleen had decreed, all Dothraki were one blood, one khalasar, one herd." AGOT, Dany V - "The stallion is the khal of khals promised in ancient prophecy, child. He will unite the Dothraki into a single khalasar and ride to the ends of the earth, or so it was promised. All the people of the world will be his herd." Rhaego is the khal of khals. So all khalasars are his. He is GRRM's parallel to the second Jesus/the son of the Woman Clothed in the Sun. In the Bible Jesus was titled king of kings and lord of lords. Which doesn't mean that he will inherite United Kingdom from Queen Elizabeth II, or Monaco from Prince Albert II, etc. Eventually all khalasars will join into one, and that khalasar will be under Rhaego's reign. And the khals of all those khalasars will remain to be khals, with the sole difference that Rhaego will be their "overlord". AGOT, Dany V - " "I have seen his face, and heard the thunder of his hooves," she proclaimed in a thin, wavery voice. "The thunder of his hooves!" the others chorused. "As swift as the wind he rides, and behind him his khalasar covers the earth, men without number, with arakhs shining in their hands like blades of razor grass. Fierce as a storm this prince will be. His enemies will tremble before him, and their wives will weep tears of blood and rend their flesh in grief. The bells in his hair will sing his coming, and the milk men in the stone tents will fear his name." The old woman trembled and looked at Dany almost as if she were afraid. "The prince is riding, and he shall be the stallion who mounts the world." " AGOT, Dany X - "She climbed the pyre herself to place the eggs around her sun-and-stars. (3) The black beside his heart, under his arm. (2) The green beside his head, his braid coiled around it. (1) The cream-and-gold down between his legs." AGOT, Dany X - "She heard a crack, (1) the sound of shattering stone. The platform of wood and brush and grass began to shift and collapse in upon itself. Bits of burning wood slid down at her, and Dany was showered with ash and cinders. And something else came crashing down, bouncing and rolling, to land at her feet; a chunk of curved rock, (1) pale and veined with gold, broken and smoking. The roaring filled the world, yet dimly through the firefall Dany heard women shriek and children cry out in wonder. Only death can pay for life. And there came a (2) second crack, loud and sharp as thunder, and the smoke stirred and whirled around her and the pyre shifted, the logs exploding as the fire touched their secret hearts. She heard the screams of frightened horses, and the voices of the Dothraki raised in shouts of fear and terror, and Ser Jorah calling her name and cursing. No, she wanted to shout to him, no, my good knight, do not fear for me. The fire is mine. I am Daenerys Stormborn, daughter of dragons, bride of dragons, mother of dragons, don't you see? Don't you SEE? With a belch of flame and smoke that reached thirty feet into the sky, the pyre collapsed and came down around her. Unafraid, Dany stepped forward into the firestorm, calling to her children. (3) The third crack was as loud and sharp as the breaking of the world." Three eggs, three dragons, three riders. First out of three hatched the cream-and-gold egg, with the sound of shattering stone. Because the rider of this dragon, Jon Snow, is "From a smoking tower, a great stone beast took wing, breathing shadow fire. . . . mother of dragons, slayer of lies" - ACOK, Dany IV. Jon is a "dragon" that will be awakened from stone (the lie to slay for Dany is to discover that Jon is not a bastard of Ned Stark). That's why Viserion's egg hatched with the sound of shattering stone. Rhaegal's egg hatched with the sound of thunder, because his future rider, Rhaego, is the Stallion that mounts the world, khal of khals, and dosh khaleen heard the thunder of his hooves, when they were predicting his birth. Drogon's egg hatched with the sound of the breaking of the world, because his future rider, Dany, is the Breaker of Chains, and she will break existing world order by getting rid of slavery. "bride of dragons, mother of dragons, don't you see? Don't you SEE?" - first hatched Viserion's egg, and his rider will become Dany's third husband, that's why she is the bride of dragons/bride of fire. The second hatched Rhaegal's egg, and his future rider, Rhaego, is a dragon/Targaryen, Dany's son. Dany is the mother of the second dragonrider, and the bride of the third (the eggs hatched in the opposite order to order in which those dragons will find their riders - Viserion hatched first, but he will get a rider the last out of three dragons, because Dany and Rhaego are in Essos, and Jon is in Westeros. Dany will be reunited with Rhaego before they will depart from Essos, so Rhaego will bond with Rhaegal prior Jon will meet Viserion). More evidences that Rhaego will be Rhaegal's rider: AGOT, Dany IV - "Irri fetched the egg with the deep green shell, bronze flecks shining amid its scales as she turned it in her small hands. Dany curled up on her side, pulling the sandsilk cloak across her and cradling the egg in the hollow between her swollen belly and small, tender breasts. She liked to hold them. They were so beautiful, and sometimes just being close to them made her feel stronger, braver, as if somehow she were drawing strength from the stone dragons locked inside. She was lying there, holding the egg, when she felt the child move within her … as if he were reaching out, brother to brother, blood to blood. "You are the dragon," Dany whispered to him, "the true dragon. I know it. I know it." " Rhaego and Rhaegal already formed their bond when both of them were still embryos. This scene and the fact that Rhaegal's egg hatched with the sound of thunder is an evidence that Rhaego is alive and will eventually become Rhaegal's rider. The Undying predicted to Dany three threasons, the first one for blood. Rhaego was born alive. In her fevered dream Dany saw distorted memories of what was happening when she was giving birth to Rhaego. They (Mirri and Shiera Seastar/Quaithe /smiling and whispering stars in Dany's dream/ ghosts with mismatched green-blue eyes, and swords of pale fire in their hands, which was actually a glass candle) used some sort of magic on Dany and her unborn baby, and because of it Dany's POV was switching between her body and the body of unborn yet Rhaego. And then he was born and he saw Dany (that "the face within was her own"). He was born alive and he wasn't blind. Thus what Mirri Maz Duur said to Dany was a lie. Quaithe couldn't have taken Rhaego with her, because physically she wasn't there. Thus the baby was taken by someone else. When Dany regained consciousness, Jorah and Mirri and Dany's maids and bloodriders were still in the camp. So the baby was taken by those who have left. And the first to leave was Pono. He was one of Drogo's bloodriders, and the only one of them that survived. So he was what remained from Drogo's "blood", and because Rhaego was Drogo's son, blood of his blood, and Pono also was blood of Drogo's blood, it was his duty to take the baby, which he did. The treason for blood - Dany's son was kidnapped by blood of his blood, by his father's ex-bloodrider. There is no direct textual evidences of this. Or more direct than those few bread crumbs that I mentioned. The readers are not supposed to figure it out. Those elements in the books, they are not clues that GRRM left for readers to uncover the mystery, those elements are more like bricks from which GRRM had build fundament for the future reveal that Rhaego is alive.
  4. Megorova

    Small Questions v. 10106

    She didn't prevented anything. She didn't caused any harm to Rhaego. He was born alive, and then kidnapped by Dothraki. So he will eventually become the Stallion that Mounts the World. Furthermore it was Mirri's actions that assured this outcome. If she did saved Drogo, and restored his health and mind, then Drogo would have remained to be Khal of his khalasar, instead now that khalasar belongs to Rhaego, with Khal Pono as Rhaego's "regent". Thus all prophecies does come true, and they are inevitable. Whatever characters will do, all their actions will lead to fullfilment of the prophecy, even if what they were doing was supposed to prevent it from happening.
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    Baelish's plan to the Throne

    Though if Littlefinger for many years was one of Varys' closest people, then he knows what kind of methods Varys is using, so he made according countermeasures. If something will happen to LF then all of Varys' secrets will be revealed. Neither of them can kill the other, or to directly challenge or oppose the other. If LF will reveal to Lannisters, or to anyone else, what he knows about Varys, then how is he going to explain how did he get access to that information, and why didn't he revealed that information to authorities, if he knew all that for years? Thus revealing to authorities who Varys is, and what he is planing to do, would also reveal LF as Varys' ex-agent, so he will also be punished for treason, same as Varys. It's their shared secret, and revelation of it will damage both of them, so for LF it's the last resort. But if Varys will try to do something against LF, then LF will reveal his secrets. I think that there are some kind of countermeasures that will be activated in case of LF's sudden death. And Varys probably did something similar in case of his own death. So neither of them can get rid of the other. It's a stalemate. They can change their situation in the Big Game, only thru usage of other people as their pawns. fAegon is Varys' trump card, and Sansa is LF's. AGOT, Ned IV - "Littlefinger smiled. "Leave Lord Varys to me, sweet lady. If you will permit me a small obscenity - and where better for it than here - I hold the man's balls in the palm of my hand." He cupped his fingers, smiling. "Or would, if he were a man, or had any balls. You see, if the pie is opened, the birds begin to sing, and Varys would not like that. Were I you, I would worry more about the Lannisters and less about the eunuch."" LF's personal sigil is a mockingbird (which has nothing to do with symbols of House Baelish. Their sigil is a grey head with burning eyes on green field). I think it means that he used to be one of Varys' Little birds. So mockingbird is a symbol of LF's victory over Varys, it means that he outsmarted his teacher. Maybe I'm totally wrong about this, and my theory is incorrect. Though why either of the two of them didn't got rid of the other? They are obviously in each other's way, but so far neither of them tried to actively get rid of the other. So there's definitely some serious reason for their mutual toleration. And if it's not what I wrote above, the what else could it be? P.S. Varys and loose ends - Daenerys and her dragons are out of Varys' grasp, and his original plan failed (thru Dany's marriage with Khal Drogo to get support of Dothraki during Golden Company's invasion into Westeros); Jorah, Barristan Selmy, Arya, Sansa, Bran, Euron Greyjoy, Varys doesn't even know about Jon's real identity <- and each of those people is able to greatly influence the outcome of the Big Game. Varys doesn't know everything, and he doesn't control everything. It's not like he can get rid of any obstacle on his path, or to remove from the Game any unpredictable element, just because he wants so. ASOS, Sansa VI - " "In King's Landing, there are two sorts of people. The players and the pieces." "And I was a piece?" She dreaded the answer. "Yes, but don't let that trouble you. You're still half a child. Every man's a piece to start with, and every maid as well. Even some who think they are players." " Maybe he was talking about himself too, that when he was younger, half a child like Sansa is now, he also used to be a piece, even though at that time he thought that he was a player. But instead he was used by Varys as his pawn, and then moved aside, when a better option appeared (fAegon). So LF stopped being one of Varys' "pieces" and instead became a player on his own.
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    Baelish's plan to the Throne

    What if Littlefinger already does have that link? What if he is a dragonseed and is bloodrelated to Targaryens? What if he can prove that he is Aegon IV's descendant? Doesn't that give him a right to claim Targaryen crown (in case if Dany, Stannis and Shireen, and all Blackfyres will be out of the picture)?
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    Will ADOS Be Entirely Dedicated To The Others?

    I'm not mocking you. Or anyone else. Am I wrong about this? -> "Where exactly am I placing commas, where there shouldn't be any commas?" <- in this sentence, there should be a pause between "commas" and "where", and if there's a pause, then there should be a comma there, or some other sign of punctuation, such as "," or "-", or ":", or ";". Or that's wrong, and even though there are pause in there, there isn't supposed to be any signs of punctuation? For example, the sentence that you wrote, I would have wrote it like this - "I'm not sure if this sentence is you mocking me, or if it's a genuine example of what I pointed out.", or even like this "I'm not sure, if this sentence is you mocking me, or if it's a genuine example, of what I pointed out." And I'm not mocking you. I was studying English over 15 years ago, and it was very basic English, like translation of words, that are frequently used in everyday life, and building of simple sentences. Considering that since then all English practice that I have received was from watching movies and TV-series in English, my current level could have been much worse than it is. I just used Google-Translator to translate my previous sentence, and if I was writing it the way I see it, then I would have wrote - "Considering that since then all English practice, that I have received, was from watching movies and TV-series in English, my current level could have been much worse, than it is." So it seems that I really am using commas where they are not needed. I'll try not to. P.S. In a sentence that starts with "So" or "Also" or "Nevertheless" should there be a comma after it? Is there supposed to be a comma in a sentence after words such as "thus", "for example", "in my opinion", "I think"?
  8. Megorova

    Will ADOS Be Entirely Dedicated To The Others?

    Huh? Now I am certain of it, we have read entirely different books! I was reading ASOIAF not in order it was written. I have read all chapters with Jon's POV in all books, then all chapters with Dany's POV, etc. So, I don't remember which event happened in which book. Whether this or that event happened in AGOT, or in ACOK, or in one of other books. I do remember, that in one of those books there was no Jon's POV. So, it was in AFFC, not in ACOK. Can you give me an example? Where exactly am I placing comas, where there shouldn't be any comas?
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    Will ADOS Be Entirely Dedicated To The Others?

    Sorry, I meant in TWOW. No Dany's chapters in TWOW. It's a possibility, because GRRM said, that she will go to Westeros only near the end of that book. There was no Jon's POV in ACOK, and what was happening at The Wall, was depicted in Sam's chapters. Now we have Tyrion and Barristan in Meereen. So, whatever will be happening there, as far into the future, as Dany's arrival to Westeros, could be also depicted thru their POV, even if Dany will return to Meereen prior the end of TWOW. So, Dany could be present in later part of TWOW, but we will see her only thru other POVs. And then, when she will get to Westeros, there's still Tyrion, Barristan (if he won't die in TWOW), Cersei (if Dany will get to KL, then what she will be doing there, we may find out thru Cersei's POV, and not thru Dany's, because there's not much what Dany's knows about Westeros and KL, and characters that are there, or what kind of political situation they have there, so we will get significantly more information thru Cersei's POV than thru Dany's POV, if both of them will be at KL, or in that area), and later, when Dany will meet Jon, it means that she will have less screen time than him. Because majority of political events will be depicted in Tyrion's and Cersei's chapters, while nearly all action will be in Jon's, Jaime's, Brienne's and Arya's POVs. In ADOS there was only 1 of Jaime's chapters, and 2 of Cersei's, even though in previous books they had significantly more "screen time". The same could happen with Jon and Dany in the last two books. So, none of their chapters in TWOW, and small number of their chapters in ADOS. Because it's a possibility, that all important events in the last two books will be presented thru someone else's POV, and not thru Jon's or Dany's. Thru Tyrion, Bran, Sam. If Quaithe is Shiera Seastar, then Rhaego is alive. Because if Quaithe is Shiera, then she was Mirri Maz Duur's teacher, and she was summoned by Mirri, when Dany was giving birth to Rhaego, and Shiera used magic to help the baby to be born, and he was born alive. Later he was kidnapped by Dothraki (by Khal Pono, whom Dany met in her last chapter in ADWD), and that's the treason for blood. When Rhaegal's egg hatched, it hatched with the sound of thunder, and about the Stallion that mounts the world Dosh khaleen said, that they can hear thunder of his hooves; and several other elements of foreshadowing, that Rhaego will become second dragonrider after Dany, and that his dragon will be Rhaegal. So, it will happen prior they will depart to Westeros. It's a possibility. For example, in TWOW what will be happening in Westeros we will get thru Cersei's/Sansa's/Jaime/Brienne chapters in the East and Riverlands, Sam/Aeron and Arianne/Areo/JonCon in the South and south-east, Davos/Theon/Asha/Mel in the North, thru Prologue with Jeyne Westerling in the West and Riverlands; and what's happening in Essos we will get thru Victarion/Tyrion/Barristan/Arya. So, what happened with Bran beyond The Wall, after he fell asleep; with Dany, when she met those Dothraki; and with Jon, we will find out later, in ADOS. Events in TWOW and ADOS can be happening at about the same time, only ADOS will go a bit further into the future, already after POV-characters from TWOW will meet other characters, that will be POVs in ADOS.
  10. Megorova

    Will ADOS Be Entirely Dedicated To The Others?

    What's that? Barristan's chapter prior the battle was utterly boring. It totally lacked any personality. Looked more like a dry summary, than an actual chapter. Though, maybe, later GRRM will rewrite it. Nothing much happens in Tyrion's POV, he's not in the centre of events, more like he's observing them from afar. So, the Battle of Meereen will be mostly boring. And the peak event of it will be how Victarion will be burned by Dany's dragons. But we have already read something like that in Quentyn's POV. Are we sure, that there will be Dany's POV in ADOS? Because I doubt it. Seems fairly likely, that in TWOW there will be no Jon's and no Dany's POVs, so what happened to Jon, after they tried to kill him, and what happened to Dany, when she met those Dothraki, we will find out only in ADOS. Though I hope, that I'm wrong, and GRRM did included Jon's and Dany's POV in TWOW. If Dany will be reunited with Rhaego in Vaes Dothrak, then that won't be boring. Not interested in what's going on there. Euron will die anyway. Whatever's the reason, why he went to Oldtown, he will fail. What he went there to find (probably, same reason, why Jaqen went there), isn't there anymore, or not important anymore. This could be interesting. But, most likely, we will see it only from sidelines, or info about those events will be presented to readers already after those events will happen, and thus, the most interesting events will be happening off screen. Boring. Braavos for her is just a stepping stone. She will shorten her death-list, while she's there, and then move on. That's when her story will become interesting/exciting. She's stupid and boring. Wherever. Would have been so much better to read about those events from Jon's POV, not from someone else's, even Mel's. In my opinion, the most interesting POVs are Jon, Bran and Dany. And it's fairly possible, that none of them will be in TWOW. I also like Tyrion's POV, but his two chapters in TWOW were lacking. Maybe, those were mere preliminary chapters, and later GRRM will rewrite them. But if he won't, and that's what Tyrion's POV will be from now on, then the quality of GRRM's writing has seriously went down, while he was working on TWOW.
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    Will ADOS Be Entirely Dedicated To The Others?

    Maybe events in both books will be happening at the same time, only in different locations, thru different POVs, and events in ADOS will go slightly further than events in TWOW. Thus, there will be both political struggles and fights against monsters in both books. So far we know 8 POV-characters from TWOW - Sansa in The Vale; Arya in Braavos; Tyrion, Barristan and Victarion in Meereen; Theon in The North; Aeron somewhere in the sea, possibly nearing Oldtown; Arianne in Dorne, possibly going to Stormlands. Possibly where Theon is, his POV will be interchanging with Asha's POV, because she's also in The North. Arianne's POV possibly will interchange with Areo Hotah's POV, if he will be escorting her to Stormlands. Probably, in TWOW there will also be one of Melisandre's chapters at The Wall. That's 11, + 1 in Prologue, and 1 in Epilogue, 13 POVs in total. In ADWD there was 18 POV-characters, and 3 of them are already dead, 15 left. In AFFC there was 13 POV-characters, and 2 of them died, 12 left. In ASOS there was 12 POV-characters, 3 of them are already dead, 9 left. 10 POV-characters in ACOK, 2 of them are dead, 8 left. In AGOT there was 9 POV-characters, 3 of them are dead, 6 left. So it's likely that those 11+2 from above are all POVs of TWOW, and the rest of POV-characters, such as Dany, Jon, Bran, Sam, Cersei, Jaime, Brienne, Davos, and JonCon will appear only in ADOS. 9 of them + 2 in Prologue and Epilogue. Possibly in span of TWOW something will happen at The Wall, off screen, and characters in The North, such as Theon and Asha, and Stannis will have to run from the Others, that will somehow break thru The Wall. And what exactly happened at The Wall we will find out only in ADOS, thru Jon's POV, that will be depicting events of that break thru of the Others. Possibly Bran will arrive to Castle Black shortly prior the Others. Davos will find Rickon, and will bring him to The Wall, or to Winterfell. Brienne and Jaime will take Sansa from The Vale, and will bring her to LSH, and after that will escort her either to The Wall, or to Winterfell. JonCon probably will go to the Citadel, to find a cure, and from there he will escort Sam to The Wall, or Winterfell (if by that time Jon will be there). Dany will be with Dothraki, and by the time she will bring them to Meereen, the battle there will be already over (depicted in Tyrion's and Barristan's POVs). Dany with Dothraki, and her people from Meereen will go to Westeros, and probably on the way there, Arya will join them. So, there will be Cersei and Euron in King's Landing, fAegon with Arianne somewhere near there, Dany with her people will arrive to Westeros, and the rest of characters will be in The North, probably in Winterfell. Dany will deal with fAegon, Cersei and Euron, and will go north, to help in the final battle against the Others, where she will meet Jon. TWOW will be boring, and all important events will happen only in ADOS.
  12. Could be that at that time she was older than 12, though the earliest possible year of her birth is 180. Aegon's seventh mistress, Bethany Bracken, was brough to court in 177. She was executed in 178. Later in 178 Aegon's eighth mistress, Jeyne Lothston, was brought to court. Seems that she was evicted from there in 179. Because it's unlikely, that Aegon managed to execute Bethany, begin his relatioship with Jeyne, infect her with small pox, and sent her away, all that in span of 178. Thus, most likely, Serenei was brough to court in not very early 179, so, even if she got pregnant in that same year, she gave birth to Shiera not earlier than in 180. I think that Bloodraven is Leo, and Shiera is a Cancer (based on husband-Sun and wife-Moon of Dothraki legends, Lion of the Night and Maiden-made-of-light symbolism in the story), so she was born in June-July, 6-7 months of 180 (or 184, it's possible that Serenei died later than Aegon, and the reason why Aegon on his deathbed had legitimized all of his bastards, is because of Serenei's pregnancy. That could be the reason, why Shiera was never a Waters). Thus, her maximum age at the time of Rebellion in 196 was 15-16, and minimum was 11-12 (if she was born in 184). If she was no older than 12, at the time prior Rebellion, it still doesn't mean, that she wasn't plotting something in relation to dragonseed-men from her circle. Egg's younger sister, Rhae, gave to him love potion, prior 209, because she wanted him to marry with her, and not with their older sister Daella. At that time Rhae was less than 9 years old. If a girl, who is younger than 9, and who had three brothers, and three male-cousins, deemed that it was necessary to use love potion, to assure her future marriage, then it's possible, that Shiera, who had significally lesser choices, also did something like that, and her actions caused some great confrontation between Bloodraven and Bittersteel. Just look at everything that Arya did, and she's only 10 years old. Shiera is the main driving force behind many important events in ASOIAF. She's Quaithe, and the Three-Eyed Crow. She instructed Dany how to hatch dragon eggs, she was Mirri Maz Duur's teacher, and maester Marwyn's teacher, seems that Euron Greyjoy (the Crow's Eye, Urrathon Nightwalker from Qarth) was also one of her apprentices, and it seems that she's the one who orchestrated fAegon's birth (could be that she was that septa, that Barristan Selmy saved from Kingswood Brotherhood together with Jeyne Swann/septa Lemore), she stored shadow-glamour into that moonstone brooch that Maynard Plumm/Bloodraven used in "The Mystery Knight". She was exceptional, even when she was just a little girl. So, it's not impossible, that a 12-years old girl caused two adult men to fight because of her. Especially if she did used magic on them. Just because you don't see that happening, doesn't mean that it didn't happen. If Aegon did married with one of his mistresses, then Serenei is the most likely candidate. Didn't he said, that out of all of them, he loved her the most? (That's because, probably, she was his mother. She left her family, when Aegon was 4 years old. Because of his mother abandoning him, he had a complex, and when he grew up, he became a horndog.)
  13. If she died soon after their wedding, then what was the point of revealing to general public, that Aegon got remarried? Some people, who never contemplated, that after Naerys' death Aegon can remarry, could have tried to force him to marry again, after Serenei' death. Either somehow forced him, or prepared a trap for him, like in case with Bethany Bracken. Aegon was seriously ill, his sister-wife was dead, same as his brother-Kingsguard, and his son Daeron didn't cared about him, so who was there to defend Aegon against advances of bad people? -> No one. Some powerful House could have manipulated Aegon into making one of them the King's Hand, then locked him somewhere, isolating him from the rest of court, claiming that it is the King's order, and would have ruled in his place. They could have also forced/manipulated him into getting married with a woman, selected by them. Soon after that she could have became pregnant, and not necessary from Aegon. Aegon hated Daeron, so they could have tricked him into disowning Daeron, and all of Daeron's children. For example, they could have made him to believe, that by disowning Daeron, he will make Daemon to be his heir. They could have prepared and made him to sign two separate documents. One with decree that Daemon is not Aegon's son, that, for example, he was child of Dragonknight, and that supposedly Aemon or Naerys, before they died, admitted it, and that Aegon won't allow someone else's kid to sit on his throne. And the second document with decree about Daemon's legitimization. Though, when they were announcing the King's will, they would have revealed to people only the content of that first document, and kept quiet about Daemon's legitimization. They could have either burned that second document, or, when they gave that document to Aegon to sign, instead of Daemon's name, they could have wrote there someone else's name, and didn't let Aegon to read what he is signing. In 184 he was seriously ill, bedridden, so, probably, his eyesight was deteriorating, and thus, someone else was reading to him all those documents, that he was supposed to sign. <- This sort of scenario was a likely possibility, in case if Aegon's remarriage was an option. I think, that it's possible, that Ambrose Butterwell was Aegon's son, and that's the reason, why Aegon gave a dragon's egg to Lord Butterwell - actually it was for Aegon's son (the other two women either gave birth to daughters, or their children were stillborn, or miscarried, which frequently happened with Targaryen babies). If my guess is correct, then Ambrose was Aegon's second oldest son, next after Daeron. So, if Aegon disowned Daeron, and legitimized his bastards, then Ambrose would have became the King of 7K. Ambrose's grandfather was Aegon's Hand of the King, and Ambrose was the Master of coin. They could have tricked Aegon into getting married with Ambrose' mother. In 184 she was in her late 30s, so she still could have given birth to Aegon's child. Rohanne Webber-Lannister gave birth to her last son from Gerold Lannister, when she was 44 years old; Queen Rhaella gave birth to Dany, when she was 38 or 39 years old; Queen Alysanne gave birth to Gael, when she was 44; ex-Queen Alyssa Velaryon gave birth to her last child, when she was 47 years old; if I'm right and Serenei of Lys was Larra Rogare, then she gave birth to Shiera, when she was 69 years old. If illegitimate children, that were legitimized, are placed in line of inheritance after all legitimate children, then, even if Aegon legitimized Ambrose, and disowned Daeron, there was still Daenerys (Daeron's younger sister). But if Ambrose's mother got married with Aegon, and then gave birth to a son, then that son, in case of Daeron's disinheritance, would have became the King of 7K after Aegon's death. Instead of Butterwells and Ambrose's mother, there could have been some other House, and some other woman, whom thru marriage with Aegon could have totally changed political situation at 7K. There was Daena the Defiant, Elaena Targaryen-Plumm, Bellegere Otherys, who gave birth to three of Aegon's children, and was related to the Sealord of Braavos, etc., etc., etc. So, revealing to people, that remarriage for King Aegon is an option, potentially could have caused all sort of ploys, conspired at court. Thus, if he did remarried after Naerys' death, with Serenei, and then his new wife died, then there was a lot of reasons for Aegon not to let this become known to others. No? Why not? Daemon's mother was a royal princess, an ex-wife of King Baelor, also she was cousin of King Aegon IV, niece of King Viserys II, and the eldest daughter of King Aegon III. If women were acceptable as rulers in 7K, then Daena would have became the ruler of 7K, not Aegon. Also, as the King, Aegon could have legitimized any of his bastards, whenever he wanted. So, probably, he did promised to Daemon, that eventually he will be legitimized, and thus, this won't be an obstancle for his marriage with Daenerys. I don't think, that those promises were lies, I think that Aegon believed in what he was saying. It seems that, when Aegon died, newly-crowned King Daeron hastily married Daemon to Rohanne of Tyrosh. He tricked Daemon, lied to him, that later he will let him marry with Daenerys, and that his marriage with Rohanne won't be an obstacle for that marriage. If there indeed was some sort of document, that stated, that Daeron wasn't Aegon's son, or if there were people, that were saying, that Daeron was Aemon's kid, then Daenerys was King Aegon's only legitimate child, and thus, she was first in line of inheritance, and after her all of Aegon's legitimized bastards. Supposedly there was no evidences that Ambrose Butterwell was Aegon's son, or he wasn't Aegon's son; and there was no evidence, that Bellegere's three children were not someone else's, that their fathers were some other men, and not Aegon; in this case, if Daeron was disinherited, then next in line was legitimate Daenerys and legitimized Daemon. So, their marriage was very unfavorable for Daeron. What if Daeron himself knew or suspected, that he wasn't Aegon's son? Thus, to prevent in the future any attempts from Daemon+Daenerys to overthrow him, he separated them, by tricking Daemon into getting married, while making him believe, that later he can take a second wife, and then maried Daenerys off to Dorne. What prevented Daemon and Daenerys from getting married was Daeron's plotting. If not that, then they could have been together. Criston Cole and Rhaenyra Targaryen. In 104, when he granted the victor's laurel to Rhaenyra, and asked for her favor in the lists, she was 7, and he was 22 <- 15 years age gap. Jorah is trice older than Dany. When Rohanne Webber was 13 years old, she got married with a guy who was 54 years old (and it was her second marriage, her first husband was 12 years old, and she was 10), he died several months after their wedding, and six months after his death, she gave birth to their son, who later also died. 41 years of age difference. Tyrion was going to have sex with his 12-years old wife. Marillion wanted to rape 13-years old Sansa. Petyr Baelish was kissing her. Are they all pedos? GRRM said - "in older traditions, a girl who has flowered is a woman, fit for both wedding and bedding." https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Flowering In 196, when Bloodraven was 21, Bittersteel was 24, and Shiera was 12, there was only 9-12 years age gap between them. If at that age she already had her first menstruation, then she was a maiden, not a child. What Sansa said - "And I am no child, but a maiden flowered." - Alayne Stone, to Lady Waynwood. She was a witch, same as her mother. So, maybe, she used love potion on both of them, she was experimenting, and that's why they both lost their heads and reason, and fought for a 12-years old girl.
  14. Aegon could have secretly married with Serenei after Naerys' death. Maybe, GRRM based it on how Louis XIV of France married with Françoise d'Aubigné, Marquise de Maintenon. In this case Barba Bracken seems to be based on Madame de Montespan, who mistreated Louis' wife, Queen Marie-Thérèse, while she was the King's mistress. Louis' wedding with Françoise was held on 9 October 1683 or in January 1684. Similarly Aegon's wedding with Serenei could have happened either in late 183, or in early 184, maybe, even when she was already on her deathbed. If it was her last wish, to be married with him, then he could have granted it. That's why Shiera was never a Waters (bastard surname for those, that were born in Crownlands), and why nothing is known about Aegon's marriage with Serenei, because she died after the wedding ceremony, and thus, didn't became the Queen. Daemon Blackfyre (born in 170) got married with Rohanne of Tyrosh when he was 14 years old (in 184), his beloved Daenerys (born in 172, married with Maron Martell in 187) at that time was 12 years old. It's unlikely that Daemon continued pursuing Daenerys, even after he got married with Rohanne, which means, that, most likely, Daemon and Daenerys fell in love prior his marriage, and at that time she was even less than 12 years old. If Shiera Seastar was the most beautiful woman in the world (GRRM said something like that), then it's not impossible, that Bloodraven and Bittersteel were fighting over her, even though prior First Blackfyre Rebellion she was no older than 12 years old. If she was barely twelve in 196, then it explains why there's no information about Shiera's involvement in that Rebellion, or about her support given to either of two sides of her family, Blackfyres or Targaryens, - at that time she was too young to be interested in political affairs. P.S. There are similarities between Aegon IV and Louis XIV. Seems that Louis' eighth mistress, Marie Angélique de Scorailles, who arrived to his court in 1678, is a basis for Jeyne Lothston, that became Aegon's eighth mistress in 178. Marie died after childbirth. Possibly Jeyne also died after giving birth to Aegon's secret son, the Bastard of Harrenhal.
  15. Megorova

    So who is The Harpy?

    The Harpy is a female. Warriors of Meereen are her "sons", and Graces of various colors are her "daughters". Seems that she's something like spiritual leader of Meereen, the Mother of slavers, who opposes Dany, the Mother of Dragons.
  16. I doubt that Aegon married with Melissa Blackwood. I think that he wanted to marry with her, but Cregan Stark prevented it from happening, by challenging Aegon to have a trial-by-combat. The Dragonknight was Aegon's champion, and he lost, thus Aegon had to separate with Melissa. I think that Melissa Blackwood was Cregan Stark's granddaughter, thru Cregan's daughter Mariah Stark, that's why Cregan had interfered into their relationship. In AGOT, Bran VII it was mentioned that Cregan said about Dragonknight, that he was the best swordsman he ever faced. What could be the reason why Cregan fought with Aemon? Cregan was 28 years older than Aemon. So, by the time when Aemon became a swordsman, Cregan was already in his late 40s-early 50, or even older. What they had in common? -> Nothing. Though Cregan and Aegon did had something that connected them. Even if Melissa wasn't Cregan's granddaughter, she still was his relative, thru his marriage with Alysanne Blackwood, thus, it's likely, that Cregan was opposed to Melissa's affair with the King, and forsed them to separate. If Aegon did married with his mistresses, then the most likely candidates are Jeyne Lothston and Serenei of Lys. I think that Jeyne was Aegon's daughter, and that Serenei was actually Larra Rogare. So, Aegon's three wives were his sister, his daughter, and his mother.
  17. Megorova

    Baelish's plan to the Throne

    I think that in the past Littlefinger was one of Varys' agents, so he knew about fAegon years ago. Also I think that LF is a dragonseed, and Aegon IV's descendant, thru Aegon's daughter-mistress, Jeyne Lothston, and Jeyne's son, the Bastard of Harrenhal (who was defeated in a melee by Ser Arlan of Pennytree). I think that that Bastard was either first Lord Whent of Harrenhal, or he was the father of first Lord Whent (he was grandfather of Lady Shella Whent, and great great-grandfather of Littlefinger. So, LF and Catelyn Tully are something like third cousins). After Daeron II Targaryen, Aegon's next son is Balerion Otherys, then Daemon Blackfyre, then Bittersteel (who possibly died childless), then Bloodraven (who supposedly had no children, and went missing beyond The Wall), then next is son of Jeyne Lothston (if the real reason of her exile from Targaryen court was her pregnancy from her father, King Aegon). Could be that Jeyne's son, who was Aegon's secret child, after his father's death, went to Braavos, to visit there his Otherys-siblings, who, same as the Bastard of Harrenhal, were never acknowledged by Aegon as his children. Possibly while he (the Bastard) was in Braavos, he had a child/son with Balerion's daughter. This son is Littlefinger's great-grandfather, the sellsword from Braavos. All of Daeron's male descendants, such as King Aerys, Rhaegar and his son, and Viserys, are dead, and no one knows about Jon. Thus, officially male line of House Targaryen has ended. If Balerion Otherys had only daughters, then male line from this House has also ended. It is known, that male line of Blackfyres is also dead. Bittersteel and Bloodraven had no children. Viserys Plumm and Ambrose Butterwell were never acknowledged by Aegon as his children. Though, in case with Bellegere Otherys and Jeyne Lothston, they both were Aegon's official mistresses. Thus, if in the span of their relationship with Aegon, they gave birth to sons (Balerion was born between 163 and 172, and the Bastard of Harrenhal possibly was born in 178, or 179, or 180), then those sons are next in line for Iron Throne, after male-Targaryens. If Littlefinger is descendant of Aegon IV, thru Jeyne Lothston's son, the Bastard of Harrenhal, and thru Balerion's daughter, then he has a higher claim over Iron Throne than Daenerys. I think, that Varys is a Blackfyre from male line. But because he can't have children, to have a claim over Iron Throne, he went to Westeros, to look for other people with Targaryen blood, who can have a claim over their throne. And that's when he found Petyr Baelish, revealed to him his dragonseed ancestry, and offered to him to conspire together, to get Iron Throne for him. So, LF became Varys' agent, and he thought, that thru their partnership, he will become the King of 7K. Though later Varys had found a better option (could be that Barristan Selmy is grandson of Aenys Blackfyre, and fAegon is Barristan's son from septa Lemore/Jeyne Swann), and cast Petyr aside, as a candidate. That's when Petyr decided to betray Varys, and use everything he had learned from him, to get to Iron Throne on his own. So, Littlefinger knows Varys' plan, how to get Iron Throne for fAegon, because originally Varys made that plan, to make Petyr the King of 7K. Thus LF is going to offer Sansa to fAegon. She's the heiress of The North, also, as Robb's sister, she can have a claim over Riverlands (because Riverlanders proclaimed Robb not only the King in The North, but also the King of the Trident, and Tullys acknowledged him as their overlord). Probably, if fAegon will agree to marry with Sansa, and to make her his Queen, then LF will promise to additionally give him support of The Vale. Thus, Sansa is the key to three Kingdoms, and thru marriage with her fAegon will get significally more power than thru marriage with Arianne Martell or Margaery Tyrell. And after Queen Sansa will get pregnant (from LF, not from fAegon), Petyr will use her, same way as he used Lysa. He will make Sansa to poison her husband. Then he will either marry with her, and will become her King-consort, or he will kill her too, same as he killed Lysa, and then he will become the Regent of Sansa's child. It's likely, that Robert Arryn is actually Littlefinger's son, not Jon Arryn's. So LF is planning to use with Sansa and fAegon the same scheme, that he has already used with Lysa and Jon Arryn. If it had worked once, then why not to use it again? And he thinks, that he has a right to sit on Iron Throne, because he is Aegon IV's descendant, and has a higher claim than Daenerys Targaryen.
  18. Megorova

    Small Questions v. 10106

    Because that gathering took place at Harrenhal, the castle build by Harren Hoare. So, maybe, Marc Simonetti, the artist that made that picture, looked thru coats of arms of the Houses, that owned Harrenhal, and either he didn't knew, that in 101 the castle was owned not by House Hoare, or he knew, that Hoares weren't Lords of Harrenhal anymore, but still chose to use their banners, as decorations in that picture, either for some specific reason or just because. Would be weird if Hoares' banners were hanging in some other castle, but there's nothing weird about them being present in Harrenhal. Hoares build Harrenhal, so at least they deserve to be acknowledged for that. So those banners could be there as a gesture of acknowledgement. Or they are there for superstitious reasons, as a protection against ghosts of Hoares and their people, that were burned at Harrenhal.
  19. Megorova

    Small Questions v. 10106

    Could be that three out of those 6 were squires - Arthur's squire, Rhaegar's and Oswell Whent's. And the sixth person could have been maester Marwyn.
  20. Megorova

    Why didn’t Varys kill Tommen?

    The thing is is that Stannis is already 36 years old, and he has only one child, and that child is a girl. Compare him to Ned Stark, who at 36 had five children, three of them boys. It's unlikely, that Stannis will have any more children besides Shireen. So, eventually, after Stannis will die, if he will become the King of 7K, then after him, next ruler of 7K will be his daughter. Thus, if Robert's daughter, Myrcella, is no good, then why would Shireen be accepted as a ruler? Shireen has a greyscale, and her father burned statues of the Seven, and is worshiping a foreign God, and is a kinslayer, and his lover is a witch. It's unlikely that the Great Council and the High Septon will approve someone like Shireen. Stannis, becoming the King, is the same as approving Shireen as the Queen (for the future). And that's not going to happen. Myrcella is at least healthy.
  21. Megorova

    Timett will steal Alayne

    GRRM had spent five books to bring Sansa to where she is now, and he did it not for her to be kidnapped and taken from there shortly afterwards. Littlefinger has some big plan, and Sansa plays in it a key role. He's not going to let her be stolen by some random wildling. He outsmarted even the great Olenna Tyrell, and prevented her from taking Sansa, and getting her flowery hands on The North, by marrying Sansa to Willas. Could be that Timett will appear at that tournament, but not to kidnap Sansa. If mountainmen of The Vale are related to mountainmen of The North, then he can bring news, that Stannis gathered mountain clans, and went with them to free Winterfell, and that Jon Snow is Lord Commander of Night's Watch (if Sansa doesn't know about that yet). And Timett will tell this info to Sansa, because he will recognize her.
  22. Megorova

    Why didn’t Varys kill Tommen?

    If Tommen will die, then next in line for Iron Throne is Myrcella, not Stannis. Because daughter is in line of inheritance prior her uncle. Doran Martell will marry Myrcella to Trystane, and will crown her as the Queen of 7K. Then Dornish troops will arrive with newlyweds to King's Landing, and Cersei will be dismissed from her position as a Regent, because Myrcella will be a woman wed, and will belong to her husband, not to her parents. Doran can offer to Tyrells, that he will help them free Margaery, and also to arrange marriage between Willas Tyrell and Arianne Martell, to unite their Houses. Additionally he can offer them to make Loras Lord Commander of Kingsguards, and to Garlan give a place at Small Council. That way Dorne and the Reach will join their forces, and Westerlands will also support Myrcella as the Queen of 7K. The North and the Riverlands are still not over the War of Five Kings, and Stannis is in The North, so those two regions will be to busy with fighting in their own wars (Boltons VS Stannis, Wildlings and Night's Watch VS the Others, Lady Stoneheart VS Freys). The Vale is under Littlefinger's control. He's not going to just give his support to fAegon. That way Varys and Golden Company will have on their side only partial support of Stormlanders, those that they will manage to conquer and submit. fAegon will be unable to get to Iron Throne, if he will have to fight against joined forces of Dorne, the Reach, and Westerlands, even if he will join forces with the Vale (in case if Littlefinger will demand in exchange for his help for fAegon to marry Sansa, and make her the Queen of 7K in the future). By getting rid of Tommen now, while fAegon is still far away from Iron Throne, will be inconvinient for Varys. That way he will only clear for Martells a path to Iron Throne. Though, while Tommen is still the King, Varys can offer to Martells a marriage alliance between fAegon and Arianne, and to promise to make her Queen of 7K. Additionally while Martells keep Myrcella as their guest/hostage, they are protected against Westerlands. And to Tyrells Varys also can offer something equal to Marge's marriage with Tommen (who was just a boy-King, while 7K were ruled by his Regent). fAegon can marry with both Arianne and Margaery, and to have two wives, same as Aegon the Conqueror. To be a second wife of an active King, is better than to be a sole wife of a boy-King, who will have no real power for the next 7 years (until his 16th birthday).
  23. It's more likely for a Blackfyre to produce a "Targaryen"-looking child with a Swann-girl, than with some random Valyrian-looking whore from Lys. Evidence: To produce a boy, that will look like Targaryens of the past 100 years, it was better to find a girl with Swann-genes (because all those Targaryens - Aegon IV, Daeron II, Maekar I, Aegon IV, etc., most likely, were carriers of Swann-genes), and to make her have a child with a carrier of Blackfyre genes (because any Blackfyre of Aerys' or Rhaegar's generation will have more Targaryen genes than those Targaryens. For example - Barristan is 12/64 Targaryen, that's 18,75%, while Aerys and Rhaegar both were only 6,25% Targaryen). Instead of Barristan insert there any other Blackfyre-man, who is a great-grandson of Daemon I Blackfyre, and he will have the same amount of Targaryen genes (18,75%), and it will be higher than % of Targaryen genes that Aerys or Rhaegar had. Any current Blackfyre has more "Targaryen"-genes than current Targaryens. And if Targaryens of the past, starting from Aegon IV, were carriers of Swann-genes, than it's more likely for a Blackfyre to produce a "Targaryen"-looking child with a Swann-girl, than with some random Valyrian-looking girl from Lys. In the White Book in Jaime's entry it was written - "Ser Jaime of House Lannister. Firstborn son of Lord Tywin and Lady Joanna of Casterly Rock." and in Barristan's - "Ser Barristan of House Selmy. Firstborn son of Ser Lyonel Selmy of Harvest Hall." - why his mother's name isn't there? Add this missing piece of information, to the fact, when Barristan was born - in 236, between execution of Aenys Blackfyre in 233 and the Fourth Rebellion of Blackfyres in 236. Bittersteel came to Westeros to take back Aenys' family, that Aenys has brought with him, when he went to 7K. Bloodraven promised him a safe passage, that he is supposedly forgiven for whatever his family did in 7K, while Aenys was still a child. Thus, Aenys wasn't intending to return to Essos, even if the Great Council would have decided to give a crown to someone else. Westeros is more civilized and peaceful than Essos, so it's likely, that Aenys was either way intending to stay with his family at 7K, even if he didn't became King. So, when he arrived to Westeros, he left his wife and children in Stonehelm, because Swanns of Stonehelm possibly are relatives of Blackfyres - Johanna Swann, most likely, was Daemon Blackfyre's great-grandmother. It's unlikely, that it's a mere coincidense, that GRRM didn't revealed to readers who was Larra's mother, and who was Barristan's mother. But in the books there's enought clues, to figure out, who those two women were - Johanna Swann and Aenys' daughter. That possibility is more likely, than that Illyrio had sex with numerous random Valyrian-looking whores, in hope to produse a Targaryen-looking child.
  24. My candidate for the Perfumed seneschal - septa Lemore, possibly real name - Jeyne Swann, possibly fAegon's mother (the father, in my opinion, is Barristan Selmy, who may be a secret dragonseed - I think that Barristan's mother was Aenys Blackfyre's daughter). Could be that Larra Rogare's mother was Johanna Swann, the Black Swan of Lys, who was ruler of Lys in all but name (mentioned in the World book). In F&B book it was mentioned, that Rogares were princes of Lys in all but name, and that they owned Lyseni pleasure house, titled The Perfumed Garden. It's likely, that Johanna, who was a famous courtesan in Lys, was working in The Perfumed Garden. I think, that she was one of Lysandro Rogare's wives, and Larra Rogare's mother (based on the cases of Cleon the Great, King of Astapor, and Lord Aenar Targaryen from Valyria, and some of Dothraki khals, to have several wives, is a norm in Essos). Larra was paternal grandmother of Bittersteel, Bloodraven, Shiera Seastar, Daemon I Blackfyre, King Daeron II Targaryen, and Aegon's IV's numerous bastards. So, if Larra's mother was a Swann, then all of those characters are also carriers of Swann-genes. Which means, that Jeyne Swann is the Perfumed seneschal, because her ancestor, Johanna, was working at the Perfumed Garden. There's two more connections between Perfumed seneschal and septa Lemore/Jeyne Swann. In "The Hedge Knight" novel there was a scene, in which people of Aerion Brightflame were burning dolls of Lady Jonquil, Florian the Fool, and the mummer's dragon. So, in my opinion, that scene is a foreshadowing of what will happen to Lemore, Barristan, and their son - fAegon, who is the mummer's dragon from Quaithe's warning (the mummer is Varys). Barristan is a parallel to Florian the Fool, because Florian's armor was made of motley (i.e. it was multicolored, like a rainbow). In a song about Jonquil, there was six maids in a pool. Barristan was a Kingsguard of six Monarchs - Aegon V, Jaehaerys II, Aerys II, Robert Baratheon, Joffrey Baratheon, Daenerys Targaryen. So, same as Florian the Fool, Barristan is the greatest knight, and the greatest fool, because it's a great accomplishment, that he was guarding five Kings, but also he's a fool, because all of his proteges died, and not from natural death. It was his duty to protect them, and he failed 5 times. Thru a scene in ADWD Florian is connected to the Perfumed seneschal - while Tyrion and Jorah were sailing on a ship, titled Fragrant Stuart, Tyrion mentioned Florian. When to Dany and her people will be revealed the existence of fAegon, and that Jon Snow is Rhaegar's son, then Barristan will have to swear his allegiance to his seventh and final Monarch (to complete the rainbow from Florian's motley) - either it will be Barristan's son, Aegon the Sixth, or the true King of 7K - Aegon the Seventh/Jon Snow. Probably, that's when Dany will be betrayed for love - the third treason, predicted by the Undying, could be about Barristan, betraying Dany for the sake of his son, fAegon. When Barristan will meet septa Lemore, if my theory about her identity is correct, then he will recognize her. Because he saved her from the Kingswood Brotherhood. I think, that that's when Jeyne gave to Barristan love potion, seduced him, and got pregnant. She got that potion from a septa, that was escorting her thru Kingswood, and I think, that that septa was actually Shiera Seastar in shadow-glamour, and that the attack of the Kingswood Brotherhood was staged, to get Barristan into their trap. They needed pure dragon-blood, and they knew that Barristan is a Blackfyre thru his mother, so Shiera arranged Barristan's encounter with Jeyne, and on that night was conceived fAegon. And it happened on the same night, when in 281AC Rhaegar's Aegon was conceived at King's Landing, and a comet was passing in the sky. Because of that comet, Rhaegar thought, that his Aegon is the Prince that was promised. And Shiera and Lemore thought, that the Promised Prince is their fAegon, Blackfyre. Jonquil is a flower from the same family as narcissus and daffodil. Daffodils are traditional flowers of Mother Mary. On many icons she has a crown made of 12 stars, or 12 daffodil flowers. In my opinion, the three heads of the dragon from the prophecy is Dany (The Mother), Rhaego (The Son), and Jon (The Holy Ghost), they are a parallel to Biblical Trinity. Rhaego, who is khal of khals, is like the child of the Woman Clothed in the Sun, from the Book of Revelation, who was King of kings and Lord of lords. Jon is Agnus Dei/the Lamb of God, who was killed and then resurrected. And Dany is the mother to one Messiah, and the bride of the other (in the House of the Undying they called her bride of fire, and in the end of the Book of Revelation the Lamb got married with his bride, and the Bible ends with their wedding). So, if those three are true dragons and real saviours, parallels to Mother Mary and Jesus, then fAegon, who is the mummer's dragon, the false dragon, and a fake saviour, is a parallel to Biblical Antichrist, and Varys is a parallel to Satan. So, fAegon's mother, septa Lemore/Lady Jeyne Swann/the Perfumed seneschal is Dany's antagonist, and while Dany's/Mary's flowers are daffodils, Jeyne's flowers are jonquils. And from jonquil oil in Medieval Ages were made perfumes. Thus, based on those three observations (1. Johanna Swann - Perfumed Garden; 2. Jonquil, Florian, and the mummer's dragon; 3. biblical symbolism of those flowers, and usage of jonquil oil as a basis for perfumes), I think that the Perfumed seneschal is Jeyne Swann/septa Lemore.
  25. Megorova

    Tywin's Choice for Heir to Casterly Rock

    I think, it was supposed to be Tommen. Or maybe, Myrcella, if she later married with one of her Lannister cousins, one of Kevan's sons. That way, even though she was Baratheon, later Casterly Rock still would have remained as domain of Lannisters. Lancel is only 8 years older than Myrcella, Martyn is 5 or 3 years older, so she could have married with one of them. There also Janei, Kevan's daughter, who is 5-6 years younger than Tommen, they could have married, not to bring into the mix non-Lannister genes, in case if Tywin made Tommen his heir. If Joffrey was King, then the King's brother as the Lord of Casterly Rock is a perfect option, especcially, if in case of Joffrey's death, at that time he will have no children, then Tommen will become King of 7K. In this case Tommen's oldest son will become the King after him, and his next son will be Lord of Casterly Rock.
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