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  1. Ghost+Nymeria4Eva

    Why did Ned allow Benjen to take the black?

    At first I thought maybe it's tradition for a Stark to take the black. Now it looks more like Benjen had something to do with the rebellion. Maybe he was the one who spread the lie and this is his punishment? It's also possible that it's something he did in his grief after losing almost his entire family. Right. Perhaps Ned's "promise" to Lyanna included Jon ending up at the Wall. Maybe he sent Benjen there early so he would be an experienced officer able to look after Jon when he gets there. Or Ned might have always planned to send Jon to the Wall so that he could never claim a right to the throne just in case the secret came out. In GoT, he never protests Jon's desire to go to the Wall. Never talks about it or mentioned it even. Good one. I always found it weird that Ned never even talked to Jon about him going to the Wall.
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    What is the importance of the Hrakkar, the White Lion?

    What makes you say Dany is the "black dragon"? Do you mean that she's the secret Blackfyre? I think someone else has already pointed out, Lannisters are associated with golden dragons, not white ones. I thought that maybe the lion Drogo killed was a sacrifice of some sorts unbeknownst to them. It was obviously a rare and possibly unique creature. Drogo might have killed an animal associated with the gods, like the direwolves. It was clearly important in the grand scheme of things. Like how Ned was executed after he killed Lady, maybe Drogo's fate was the gods' punishment for him killing the special lion. Either that or the significance comes from Dany wearing the lion pelt (and it later being associated with her).
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    Did Bran Go Back in Time in ACoK?

    This occurs three books before Bran meets 3EC. What makes you say that? It seems like he understood it well enough and confirms that he is the crow. Except that it wasn't a weirwood dream. Bran was warging into Summer. In his Summer dream, he doesn't see Jon. Also, Summer sees that weird "winged snake" over Winterfell. Other than that, it seems the usual warg dream. If Summer met Ghost, it would be perfectly sensible. Unless if there are roots from the godswood growing into the crypts of Winterfell. Also, how did Bran manage to communicate with Jon who is beyond the Wall at this point? Doesn't the Wall block magical powers like this? Bloodraven has the trees.
  4. Ghost+Nymeria4Eva

    Did Bran Go Back in Time in ACoK?

    But he didn't talk to Jon through Ghost. He was talking through a weir sapling that Ghost came across. Where did the weirwood come from otherwise? It wasn't one of those symbolic prophesy dreams.
  5. Ghost+Nymeria4Eva

    Did Bran Go Back in Time in ACoK?

    Ah, the post is archived. I noticed that you observed the tree line effect. The pass is all stone, but the sapling still grows. Perhaps there's a different reasons weirwoods don't grow in the Vale. I think someone mentioned that Bran is in the crypts, hence the death and the darkness. But the Bran in the passage says he "likes" it there. We know he doesn't, which is why he likes to warg into Summer. And Summer doesn't like it either. And Ghost observes a "terrible" smell too. Could it just be decomposing bodies, considering nothing been buried there recently? The reason I thought it was a time travel trip is because Bran specifically says "before the crow." At this point, he hasn't met the crow yet and doesn't know anything about weirwood magic. And he sounds confident and even helps Jon see, unlike the Bran in Winterfell who's just learning about his warging abilities. Also, the weirwood. It's present and is growing, like it's between its adult and young stage, kind of like a time lapse video.
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    Did Bran Go Back in Time in ACoK?

    Referring to a scene in one of Jon's chapters towards the end of ACoK. Jon, Qhorin, and three other black brothers are going through the Skirling Pass when Jon has another wolf dream in his sleep. He becomes Ghost as he goes hunting. And then this happens: Bran during this time is still hiding in the crypts of Winterfell, so it's obviously can't be the same Bran that reaches out to Ghost. It looks like he has just become the three-eyed crow, symbolized by the young weirwood tree with his face on it. (So are the faces on weirwoods faces of the 3EC, rather than carved ones as believed? There would not be anyone to carve a face on a weir sapling growing on a rock in an inhospitable region.) Anyway, does this mean Bran as the 3EC has gone back in time to help Jon? Or did the 3EC imitate Bran? Did Bran open Jon's warg eye as the previous 3EC did to him? At the end of Dance, Bran is still sort of an apprentice 3EC. So this must come from even further in the future. How did he teleport Ghost to the top of the pass for the view of the valley? And how did to "talk" to Jon? Is it that Ghost's direwolf ears can "hear" the tree, whereas humans don't hear anything or perhaps just peculiar whispers? (There's also the part about Bran being in the dark. Ghost smells death from the tree.That's a lot of sinister undertones to the weir magic hinted here.)
  7. Ghost+Nymeria4Eva

    Winged Snake over Winterfell

    Osha? No it's Summer, Bran's direwolf, who sees it. See the quote. It's one of Bran's wolf dreams.
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    Prequel Pilot Filming Begins

    No, back up your own facts.
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    ''Details'' you wish to see picked up before Asoiaf ends

    Did Catelyn get a vision from the Seven in Clash when she visits the sept near Renly's camp? Did Summer see a dragon above Winterfell after Ramsay sacked it? Who were the people from the Shadow that disappears into the "annals of history"? Was there a long night before the Long Night that results in the Wall? Are there really animal-human hybrids in the far east? What is the cup of ice and cup of fire? Why didn't Drogon recognize Dany in Daznak's Pit? Did the Undying really send the comet as a messenger to Dany as they claim? What was the blue heart throbbing indigo light in the House of the Undying? What's the voice from the fire that spoke to the sorcerer who mutilated Varys? Is there someone or something really looking through the dragon skulls in KL like Arya, Tyrion, Ned, Robert, and Jaime feel?
  10. Ghost+Nymeria4Eva

    Small Questions v. 10106

    That's not what the other poster asked. It was a question about what if Rhaegar had managed to get his Great Council. Dany not being born would be near inevitable if Aerys was dethroned, which would mean he would be kept separate from his wife. Rhaella would also get the protection of the Kingsguard as the queen mother so she would no longer be hurt by the mad king. On the other hand, saying that there would be dragons without Dany because one of the dead Targs would have managed the same ritual Dany did is very much a fanfic scenario. That's like asking would another have found the direwolves if Jon had not existed? Would another Stark become a greenseer and a 3EC if Bran had not existed? Would another Night's Watch brother kill the wight if Jon had never been there? No. These things were done by specific people under unique circumstances. We can say that Robert would have found another Hand if Ned had said no, or that Cersei would have married someone else if the Rebellion had not happened. That's because those things were bound to happen regardless, unlike the earlier scenarios that happen only because of specific people. 1. She stole money or sold the dragon eggs to someone else. 2. If he bought the dragon eggs from Elissa, why in the world would he cut the debts to the Targs, considering he'd already paid for the eggs? He didn't make any transactions with Targs directly. Why would he deny making the purchase? Didn't Barth negotiate the reduction of the debts anyway? (Maybe GRRM intends to give Dany's eggs a Targ origin, or maybe he would make them to be from Asshai as originally intended. We would have to wait for the story to conclude. Until then, it's premature to assume that is the case considering GRRM backtracked on giving this official confirmation.) Egg at this point is a small child who's repeating a juicy piece of gossip he's heard. That doesn't make it a fact that actually happened. No, the "whispering stars" tell her the same riddle Quaithe did in Qarth. So she asks if it's Quaithe. The stars whisper in a woman's voice, which Dany doesn't recognize as Quaithe's at all. Otherwise, she would have thought that the stars whispered in Quaithe's voice. Dany sees the ghosts of old kings with different shades of blonde hair and different colored eyes (corresponding to the colors of Yi To emperors). None of the kings have mismatched eyes like Shiera does (Tyrion has mismatched eyes too). She doesn't see any stars. She hears the whispering of stars but they are just whispering noise, and doesn't say anything specific. Dany certainly doesn't remember any stars whispering when she's about the light the pyre. Maybe the whispering stars are important because it's a symbol that refers to a divine power that these masked people in Asshai also worship? Like fire to R'hllor or the sea to the Drowned God. Or perhaps it's the Essoi version of whispering weirwoods? That's a logic leap. If this sorcerer knew how to hatch dragons, why didn't she do it herself? Why would she need Dany? No. No clues whatsoever except to say that the "dragon has three heads." It may refer to three dragons with separate riders, the nature of dragons, or the Targ symbol. The whole thing is too vague to assume anything specific. Also, the Stallion prophesy most likely refers to Drogon (thunderous wings, huge shadow, etc). That is, unless, it did refer to Rhaego and is no longer valid because Rhaego is no more. We barely know who Sheira was, except that she was a popular socialite who was loved by Brynden Rivers. Nothing in the books indicate that she had knowledge of anything magic, much less she knew how to live for over a hundred years without being attached to a weirwood tree. The comet is interpreted to be many things in the books. The Undying even claim that they sent the comet to show Dany the way. Why would this not be true? Also, the prophesy says Azhor Ahai is "reborn"--not born--as the Red Star bleeds. Dany went into the fire and her not getting burned is seen as a sort of "rebirth." Rhaego was a stillbirth, meaning he's never born and dies in Dany's womb. If Jon goes through a similar ritual to become the PtwP, he'd have to go through with it before the comet disappears (unless it already has). Huh? What makes you so certain that the books make it "obvious"? In ACoK, Dany is shows three deaths as the "daughter of death" and a horse was not one of them. Absolutely not. Go read that scene again. Dany's already in the fire for some time and her top even burns off before the first dragon egg cracks. It also happens after she sees Drogo on his stallion rides off into the nightlands and she thinks "now, now." So GRRM is here writing unnecessary scenes because he just needs to make things look dramatic? Lol. Like, dragons being born after extinction wouldn't be dramatic enough? No, she's not fireproof, but she (and possibly other Targs) have a fire affinity. In F&B GRRM hints that Targs may actually be more resistant to heat compared to non-Targs. Dany can tolerate more heat than what's considered normal. Similarly, Ned Stark seems to be able to tolerate more cold than normal, as Catelyn observes. I'm all for fan theories, but you are not presenting convincing evidence for Shiera/Quaithe thing. Also, it's really not related to what I mentioned in the earlier post.
  11. Ghost+Nymeria4Eva

    Annulment vs. 'setting aside a wife/marriage'

    No one knows that Tyrion had a wife back in the Westerlands a decade or so ago. People in Casterly Rock or the area may know (because gossip), but no reason to believe anyone at KL knew that Tyrion was ever married. Tywin makes sure that the marriage ends before anyone knows it happened (and also before Tysha gets pregnant). Legal marriage should technically give the each spouse some property rights, so it's not a just a social construct. But not sure what these are in Westeros. In Qarth, we know that there are unique gift exchanging customs between the spouses. GRRM never specifies these things for Westeros. Non-consummation is the only way to annul a marriage, rather than the easiest way. Irl, some jurisdictions allow a marriage to be annulled if the couple is close blood relatives. In Westeros, incest doesn't have a blanket ban. Setting aside a marriage is probably the Westerosi term for divorce. I think things like unfaithfulness, deception, criminal acts (treason) are grounds for a divorce. But Robert, as you said, has king's authority and could declare his own marriage dissolved. Pretty much all highborn marriages are decided for political reasons to make alliances. If these alliances are no longer of any use, I'm sure there's a way for the lords and kings to get rid of their unwanted spouses. As for the Ironborn, they have a rock wife (an ironborn) and many salt wives (kidnapped women). This is perfectly fine because the Ironborn follow the Drowned God, not the Seven. Only the Seven so far demands monogamous marriage. The Old Gods, maybe, considering Ned only has one wife (or because Catelyn follows the Seven). The Targs could enter polygamous or polyandrous marriages in accordance with their native customs. So in Westeros there's king's law, where the king can make up the law as they like, but also social customs based on religion. Marriage most likely falls under jurisdiction of the gods (social custom) rather than the law, which is why we don't see laws for divorce or separation. No one goes to jail for things like abandoning a spouse, which could be a crime if there were actual marriage laws.
  12. Ghost+Nymeria4Eva

    Small Questions v. 10106

    No. That's just a what-if fanfic. That still only a possibility. GRRM has been coy on this issue. As for the Sealord, he denies that Farman sold him dragon eggs. There are rumors she was in Asshai, so the eggs might have ended up there and sold to Illyrio. While some people tend to believe in the Farman eggs, it's yet to be confirmed. No one instructed Dany how to hatch dragon eggs. She meets Quaithe after she has hatched dragons. If anything, Dany gets the idea from Mirri Maz Durr's bloodmagic ritual. The Quaithe=Sheira is just a theory, not at all a fact. Sheira Seastar should be dead by now. Three heads of a dragon isn't a prophesy. It might not even truly refer to three people. The prophesy refers to one specific person, not any of the people descending from a certain line. It's not stated as an ability. It's stated as something this person does, Also, the wording of the prophesy might be jumbled anyway. Like how? There were attempts to make dragons return, like Summerhall, none of which succeeded. And if you go by the prophesy, how would the dragons return "years earlier" before the comet actually appears? If the Rebellion didn't happen, Rhaegar would most likely have had that Great Council. Aerys would have been sent for medical care on the account of him being mad. Rhaella would have been kept safe from him. Rhaegar would have protected his mother, but he dies. As explained earlier, the prophesy doesn't refer to "anyone" but "someone" from that line. In any case, Dany hatched the dragons, something no one else so far managed to do, period. Whether someone else might have managed to do the same if Dany never existed only leads to endless and meaningless speculation. Any other would need the bizarre fire affinity Dany has. Nothing in the books indicate that Rhaegar, his children, Aerys, Rahella, or Viserys had or have the same ability.
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    Small Questions v. 10106

    This is a feudal system where the modern concept of private ownership of land doesn't exist. The land comes under the protection of a lord, who in turn come under the protection of a bigger lord (like House Stark), and these lords in turn are subjects of a king. Does the king "own" the land? Only if he can militarily defend it. People don't need to buy land because they don't need to. Unlike modern times, people can settle down in unclaimed or unused land, unless they are explicitly ordered to leave by someone with a big army. So if you need to build a house or farm, you don't need to buy land. You can settle down anywhere viable as long as you don't get in a lord's crosshairs. Essentially, people don't own land, they claim it. If you have an army, you can lay claim to large swaths of land and make people there pay you tribute. A king doesn't really need to nationalize land because it is free to use, unless explicitly designated otherwise.
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    Small Questions v. 10106

    Had Rhaegar's Great Council plan gone through, Dany would never have been conceived. She's conceived during the Rebellion, around the time Rhaegar dies or a bit before, and she is born after both Rhaegar and Ares die. In hindsight, had the Rebellion not happened, the world would not have dragons.
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    Winged Snake over Winterfell

    I was re-reading Clash and noticed this in the final Bran chapter: This is after Winterfell is sacked by the Boltons. Some structures are set on fire. Bran is hiding in the crypts and sees the fires through Summer's eyes. Summer notices people being scared and things burning, and also this "winged snake" breathing flame. Like, where did the dragon come from? Was it really there, did Summer "imagine" it? Was Bran seeing something from the future that somehow freakishly coincides with the sacking that just happened? Soon afterward, Osha in the crypts says “We made noise enough to wake a dragon" (!). Could there have actually been a dragon that no one notices because people don't look up? Could this possibly tie-into the shadow dragon Dany is told of by the Undying. Perhaps the Broken Tower in Winterfell is the site where the shadow dragon arises. That's just a theory though. Anyone have explanations/theories on this bizarre appearance of a "winged snake"? Update: There's a decade old thread on this here: Perhaps there are newer theories/suggestions?
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