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  1. My continued enjoyment of the show is a matter of some interest to me. One factor is a sort of inertia. I really liked the first few seasons, the latter seasons less so. Nevertheless, I still found value in many elements. Also, I had become invested in some of the characters and situations. I want to see how things turn out. There's a feeling of "I've come this far, so I'll keep going on." I'll watch season eight, in part to see how the show runners bring the story to an end. I may not like the ending, but I want to know what it is. This is not the only reason I maintain an interest in GoT, but it's part of it.
  2. I stated a thread entitled "A More Plausible War." A discussion of the above video would fit into my thread. If anyone is interested, you can use the link below. http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/148777-a-more-plausible-war/
  3. Well, that's an improvement over the Season 7 we were given. Euron's motivation is, to put it mildly, strange. He was all ready to sail off to Essos and pledge fealty to the dragon queen. Then, a couple of his relatives stole some ships, and he decided that he has this thing for a woman who, as far as I know, he has never seen before. What's worse is that we are supposed to believe that he could convince a bunch of pirate guys to follow him on the enterprise that we see. They have this humongous fleet, they sail all the way around a continent, passing up lots of tempting targets, and they offer their services to a woman who is the current occupant of the Iron Throne. These guys are sailing wooden ships, and they are offering to fight against a foe that has 3 fire breathing monsters. They are doing this because their leader has the hots for said current occupant. Frankly, it isn't much of a challenge to improve on the "logic" of Season 7.
  4. I agree with much of the above, but I'd put it in a somewhat different context. I am a long term fantasy and science fiction fan. In another thread I mentioned a rule promulgated by Ursula K. Le Guin, whom I regard as one of the best writers ever to work in these fields. The rule says that you get to create your own universe, but then you have to follow the rules of this universe. By the very reasonable standards of this rule, the show runners of GoT have failed badly. If dragons are born in season 1, and then dragons grow big and strong in the following seasons, then that is to be expected. If, however, the members of Dany's team are smart, even brilliant, in the early seasons, then they turn into dunces in Season 7, that is unacceptable. There are multiple problems with the battle we are considering in this thread. One (and I do mean only one) is the fact that it occurs so late in the game. Jaime, Bron, Lord Randyll, and a considerable force of men move most of the way across a continent, and none of their enemies realize that this is happening. The bogus "surprise" nature of the attack on Highgarden is not believable. After the castle falls, the wagons loaded with gold trundle slowly all the way back (or essentially all the way back) to King's Landing before the dunces on Dragonstone rouse themselves to action. Nah, this is baloney, and my objection is not a matter of nit picking. If the story telling in GoT had remained adequate, then the battle of the wagons would have occurred much earlier, and it would have been decisive.
  5. Yeah, it's a head banger, no doubt about it. Our beautiful and gracious queen is concerned about her subjects and her army. She is afraid they will not have enough food. Two or three days later-- Our beautiful and gracious queen is incinerating the grain that her people will need to get them through the winter. As to the main point, the reason for the battle. One possibility is that it provides good material for satire, something that the people from Saturday Night Live or Monty Python could put to use. One of my "favorite lines of the season" is spoken by Jaime Lannister. "Take cover!" This is a wonderful set up: Soldier 1: Take cover? Take bloody cover??!! Why, the man's a positive master of military tactics, isn't he? Look, here comes the flying pixy on her fire breathing monster, and general genius tells us to take cover. Soldier 2: Quick lads, everyone under these wooden wagons! Soldier 3: No, no, we should all hide in the tall grass! Soldier 1: Take bloody cover? We're being led by flipping morons. Show me some cover, oh general genius. I'll tell you where to take it, and what you can do with it when you get there! Soldier 2: I say, these savage fellows don't seem such bad chaps. Time to bend the knee, eh? Soldier 3: Quite so, I do suppose they know what "I yield" means, don't they?
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