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Beardy the Wildling

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  1. I actually doubt, aside from the raw results (ie: Jon kills Dany, his second love) that any of the books will remotely resemble the final seasons. Heck, gardeners like GRRM tend not to have very solid endings as it is, due to the relatively 'uncontrolled' plot.
  2. What can we say, Smalljon just really appreciated Ramsay's sweet gesture of hugging his father.
  3. This here is basically what D&D wanted. Everyone to switch their brains off, enjoy the SFX, and watch actors' faces to feel without thinking. But also, they want to act like it's worthy of serious critical praise and analysis, so they kinda need honeypotters who are still loyal to the show, but also capable of overthinking until they're blue in the face to defend them.
  4. He also had a lovely evening with the Ironborn, accepting their surrender and convincing the Umbers to give him a fancy gift through his expressions of family love. Ramsay Sue is best Villain Sue.
  5. Also, 'let it be fear' wasn't even the excuse D&D came up with, that's something fans came up with because it makes infinitely more sense than D&D. D&D's (remember, the writers of this mess) hot take is that seeing the Red Keep made her decide to 'make it personal'. Whatever that means. Regardless of what it means, it doesn't mean 'make it personal enough that she specifically targets the Red Keep' because she attacks literally everything else first.
  6. Not only that, it actively punishes you for having paid attention and thought about the show. To quote Glidus: Another quote from this vid that's fitting is 'I'm guessing that's my fault for having paid attention'. Because... yeah, that's what D&D think, you're a dumb nerd for doing a better job than them.
  7. The Arya chase scene, and Arya post-season 4 in general, was utterly unsalvageable. I don't know why D&D thought Arya was a sympathetic viewpoint for King's Landing's destruction when literally any extra would be more sympathetic than her. Then again, I think one of the Ds badly wanted something from Maisie Williams, given how she was thrown Ed Sheeran and the Night King kill, as well as a handsome bloke getting on one knee and telling her she's beautiful. D&D are such a spiteful little pair, especially Benioff. He outright bragged about: 1: Not having any real writing qualifications and tricking GRRM. 2: Thinking that themes are stupid. 3: 'Wanting to kill Barristan off even more' after his actor was looking forward to getting a juicy plot. Fuck him. Just fuck him.
  8. To be fair, you're right that Stannis was always consistently portrayed as worse than his book counterpart (Renly outright said he'd enjoy killing Stannis in the books, prompting an understandable retaliation, Stannis is probably an atheist and views Melisandre's magic as a means to an end, he only burns statues to the seven and traitors/capial criminals) but wrong to think that it's good writing to go 'Look at how much Stannis loves his daughter, LOL FOOLED YOU ONTO THE PYRE SHE GOES'. It isn't even portrayed as being for a good reason (unlike, say, taking out a powerful adversary like Renly), Winterfell was apparently 20 minutes away.
  9. Because he gave away a key to the North to a person who has no impetus to become allies with him and claimed to Sansa that marrying the Boltons would somehow enable her to 'avenge' her family? It was moronic.
  10. Kajjo has the burning need to defend bad poosies and Dany kinda forgetting about the iron fleet, even on reserved rant spaces.
  11. I respectfully disagree regarding Stannis (who went from reasonable man to daughter-burning idiot over a camp attack when he was apparently two minutes away from Winterfell, and Ramsay abandoned the tactically superior position inside Winterfell to meet them on the field... twice, and is only punished for it once, unsurprisingly the time the 'good guys' attack) and Ramsay/Sansa (Littlefinger was made into a complete idiot just to facilitate a shocking scene with a character we knew). However, once upon a time, when D&D had GRRM (who isn't perfect, but better than these hacks) on board to keep them measured, they had semi-decent additions, but even then, they had the stink of... their later works all over them. Like Oberyn living in a brothel and Littlefinger monologuing while two prostitutes practice on each other.
  12. If Dorne wasn't important, they shouldn't have included it, simple as. As for Stannis, I'd argue that yes, it was, especially given they did that laughable BS where they make Stannis hug his daughter just so it's even more 'subversive' when he burns her over Ser Twenty Goodmen. Speaking of him, Ramsay was an incredibly laughable Villain Sue. Yet you claim it was good writing. I don't think you realise that in defending the show's writing, you're defending D&D's decisions. Because the show's writing was D&D's decision. Also, regardless of the outcome being acceptable (Dany going mad), the execution really is all that matters. You seem like the kind of person who views stories as a set of wiki points. 'This happens, this happens, this happens, and because of all these are acceptable, the story is acceptable'. Not true. Not even close. How the events of a story happen is infinitely more important than the whats. Anyone can stick to basic plot points. It's like if I were told to adapt Romeo and Juliet, and were told that Romeo and Juliet fall in love, Romeo had an ex-lover named Rosalind, a witty best friend named Mercutio who he causes the death of, has a man from Juliet's family called Tybalt as an antagonist, and eventually, both Romeo and Juliet die. Then, in response, I made it so Romeo killed Mercutio himself because he mocked Rosalind, Romeo and Juliet are only a fling before Romeo goes back to Rosalind while saying 'To be honest, I never really cared about Mercutio', Tybalt becomes the main bad guy and randomly decides to eat babies when earlier he was only hot-headed and merciless, and in the end, Tybalt successfully kills Romeo, but Juliet kills Tybalt in a murder-suicide as revenge. See how nonsensical a story can be while sticking to plot points that are ostensibly fine on their own? Your 'can we agree this plot point in isolation makes sense' rhetoric is a flawed premise from the offset, so you can stop spamming it and acting like it's not been shot down a million times.
  13. I think the Storyline soured from Season 5 onwards. If you can truly call Stannis's character assassination and TV-Dorne 'excellent storytelling', then you're putting lipstick on a pig. Worse, you're choosing to ignore what D&D themselves say. For example, the 'then let it be fear' explanation almost works; except for two things. First, Dany seems to consider her massacre a form of liberation, that is, she liberated the civilians by killing them. This isn't a stark turn to the darkest ends of machiovellian philosophy, this is outright delusional. Secondly, according to D&D, the reason she went nuts is she saw the Red Keep ringing its bells, saw the representative of all her family lost, then 'decided to make it personal', whatever that means. To take the 'emperor has no clothes' analogy further; it's like David Benioff is walking around naked, expecting everyone to praise the quality of his clothes. However, he has one piece of clothing; a tattered piece of paper coloured green, that he's wearing like a cape. You then hop onto this and say 'look, he's clothed, and he's obviously wearing scarlet silk, with a navy-blue waistcoat to go with the fantastic scarlet outer clothes.' See how it doesn't work?
  14. I'm glad you're at least capable of understanding there were a million better options here, though I must ask, how long are you willing to apply lipstick to the pig, or insist the emperor has clothes? You realise D&D don't give a fuck about any of these nuanced attempts to explain their decisions, right? Why do you think there's practically no dialogue in the final four episodes? They coast off the actors' talents and force them to carry everything by facial acting. Daenerys's silent decision to go batshit is done entirely with the face (making it unclear as to what her decision really was about), but it's a good way to bait out the Emmys (what they're really after). If you think D&D care about the story beyond emmy-bait and watching actors facial-act, you haven't been paying attention. If anything, they'll just notice your excuses, crib them, and claim it was their intent all along.
  15. But why bother when they've already surrendered? At least prioritise the Red Keep if you're gonna randomly transition from 'ruthless but understandable' to 'actual lunatic'.
  16. She was always better at conquering than ruling (hence the Meereen gaffe), but she always at least had the intention of, at some point, ruling Westeros. Until she didn't and decided that, like Pinky and the Brain, she must take over the world by playing 'Torch the Civilians'. After already getting what she wants.
  17. Beardy the Wildling

    Character arc ranto (SPOILERS)

    I agree that Sansa's hatred was understandable, but Varys's concerns felt very much like he read the scripts. 'She executes people and wants to participate in warfare, the standard means to challenge a ruler in Westeros, she must be insane' is not good enough. At least Sansa had a reason; Jon just rolled over and gave Northern Independence away to this bint who later goes on to poo-poo Sansa's logistical concerns and implies her dragons will be running roughshod through the North with her 'whatever they want' t-shirt slogan.
  18. Beardy the Wildling

    Character arc ranto (SPOILERS)

    What about 'To be honest, I never really cared for them, innocent or otherwise'. That's undoing shit that's not even part of his arc; he cared for them before his arc enough to permanently besmirch his honour.
  19. Beardy the Wildling

    Character arc ranto (SPOILERS)

    I mean, you say that, but I'd say Bad Pussy ranks as one of the worst things on TV ever. Heck, Breaking Bad was around concurrent with Game of Thrones and it didn't even have a good source material to crib ideas from. Edit: The production, acting, and cinematography has always been top-notch thanks to hard-working, wonderful people, but the writers ain't it chief XD
  20. Beardy the Wildling

    Character arc ranto (SPOILERS)

    And that was the mistake we all made. When people already trust you, any deception you pull on them isn't cunning. It's just betrayal. And betrayal can only work so many times. There's several cases where people made excuses for this shit, promising that actually D&D were master plotters, there was all sorts of complex off-screen shit happening to explain the illogic (RIP Megorova, you tried your best to defend Season 7 with your elaborate theories). I think the reason why so many people turned on Season 8 even though the show has been shit since Season 5 at least is because at least with Season 5, you can say 'the story isn't finished. Maybe it's just a blip in the writing. Maybe there'll be a reveal that makes sense of it all.' But now it's finished. There is no reveal. The curtain has been lifted, and revealed two naked, ageing idiots who think they're still rich, spoilt college frat boys. I legitimately believe there was an Inside the Episode for Season 8 Episode 6, but HBO pulled it after realising that after Episode 5, there was no way the fans would accept a word from D&D's mouths.
  21. Beardy the Wildling

    So what was the third "oh shit" moment?

    Not Jojen Reed; he seems to only receive visions, both book and show.
  22. And if that happens in the books, I'd be happily surprised. I believe Sansa is gonna spend a little longer waiting in the Vale, but if the Vale does get involved in the North's battles earlier than I expect, I'd still be fine. Because GRRM actually makes shit like that plausible. As opposed to making the Vale's swing army status an obvious case of last-minute salvation for le shocks and cheers despite Sansa being able to tell Jon about her plans at any fucking time.
  23. It would explain why the kinda forgot Sam is a POV character, Arianne Martell exists, that Jaime cared about the innocents of King's Landing, that Stannis is the one who rallied the north and looks likely to beat the Boltons, et cetera, et cetera.
  24. Beardy the Wildling

    So what was the third "oh shit" moment?

    Agreed. I actually despise the name 'Night King'. First off, implying a link between this one-dimensional Darth Maul ripoff and the depraved Night's King who turned the Nightfort into a palace of madness is laughable, secondly, it's like D&D don't understand language. 'The Night's King' is much more wieldable as a phrase because... well, it's a clear possessive, the King of Night, an embodiment of the darkness the Night's Watch ought to be, well, watching for. 'The Night King' however feels relatively clumsy, less legendary in tone and a lot more... juvenile in style. A single letter makes a fuck ton of difference sometimes.
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    So what was the third "oh shit" moment?

    True, it is all cocks in the end.
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