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On 5/21/2019 at 12:53 PM, SteveS_FL said:

Regarding Dothraki:  So we all agree that Jon probably confessed to Greyworm about knifing Dany in the heart since Drogon flew away with the evidence.  But imagine instead if a Dothraki had been the first to hear the story.  Jon killed their Khaleesi, which makes him Khal by their customs.  Her dragon belches fire, Jon emerges unharmed.  The dragon flees.  This adds to "Khal Jon's" prestige in the eyes of the Dothraki.  They defend their new Khal from the Unsullied.   A great fight breaks out.  Of course Jon would have none of this.

The point is  - No, they don't rape and pillage Westeros for revenge's sake.  It's not their way. If anything they fight among themselves briefly and choose a new Khal.  Who then takes them home.  They take home no spoils of war because Dany destroyed anything of value in KL.

Dany made all the Dothraki warriors her Bloodriders which means they are obligated to avenge their Khal.

After watching it again l noticed that after the Dothraki get decimated causing Dany to enter the battle, Jon does also, but attempts to go after the White Walkers who were on horseback in the rear. That's actually a good strategy which should have been discussed in their war council. Take out the generals and that will eliminate a chunk of Wights. Unfortunately the Night King summons a storm which forces Jon away.

3 hours ago, CrypticWeirwood said:

I guess now we finally know why Jon was resurrected. 

Do we? I would think the Lord of Light would prefer Dany than Bran.

On 4/30/2019 at 11:02 PM, Caligula_K3 said:

The Stallion that Mounts the World is going to conquer Westeros any day now... After all, it was prophecied.

The prince who was promised prophecy has always been much vaguer in the show than the books. Even so, I doubt we'll ever be getting an answer in either medium about who exactly it is and their intended role.  If their intended role is made clear, maybe it's to unify most of  humanity against the White Walkers. And many characters in the books fit the description of a potential prince... on purpose, I argue, because the point is going to be that there's nobody who exactly fits this prophecy. And nobody, at the least, is actually going to be revealed to be Azor Azai and get a magical sword after killing their lover.

I agree that I wish Jon, Dany, and especially Bran had done more in the battle. Bran especially; his role in the plot needs to be justified more than Dany and Jon, who have already done important things, like gathered allies for the battle, discovered how to kill white walkers, secured obsidian for their army, used dragons, etc... They will also have important things to do in the political endgame of the show, with Jon being the heir to the throne, Dany wanting to take it, etc...

Where I really disagree with you is that a character's arc has no point if they don't have some climactic battle with their enemy. Sure, this is a way of resolving a character's arc; deaths in fiction can be satisfying and cathartic when they are killed by someone who they've wronged or had many interactions with before. In ASoIaF, the Tickler and Arya comes to mind, as does Tywin and Tyrion. But, fiction is a varied thing, and GRRM for one has recognized quite correctly that it quickly gets boring if all deaths can be seen from twenty miles away, like a checklist. And so, Drogo is killed by a wound he gets anonymously in the battle and turned into a lifeless zombie by a witch we met a chapter earlier; Joffrey is killed by Olenna Tyrell, not Tyrion or Sansa, whom he spent two books tormenting. You might as well ask what was the point of all the scenes of Joffrey torturing Sansa if she doesn't get to kill him or have a sword fight with him. 

 Similarly, there's no reason why Arya's arc needs to be exclusively about king's landing assassinations; it in fact became clearly not completely about that last season, when she chose to abandon her quest for vengeance to return home and be with her family. And from a narrative standpoint, it makes complete sense that the Night King would avoid fighting Jon, whom he's seen kill a  white walker, but not be on the lookout for a sneaky assassin. But again, the execution left something to be desired.  

I think that was the Lord of Light's intention, misdirection kind of. NK threw a wall of Wights plus Viseryon at Jon. He was so confident when he approached Bran you could almost hear him monologging in his head.

Also, where did the ice spear that he threw at Drogon come from?

(okay, I watched it again and he has a spear when he's riding Viseryon)

On 4/23/2019 at 1:01 AM, Frances Bean Corbray said:

Gendry got laid.  He's dead.

Brienne got knighted.  She's dead.

Varys and Royce are glorified extras.  They're dead.

Ghost is too expensive to film and you can make a strong narrative/character argument that Jon doesn't need/shouldn't have him anymore.  He's dead.

Jorah has finally made peace with the friendzone and had a family reunion with little Lady Mormont.  He's dead.

Edd finally got to act like Edd one last time.  He's dead.

Beric is just his flaming sword prop and doesn't fit in anywhere anymore.  He's dead.

Pod is comedic relief in a show that's run out of comedy time.  DEAD.

Davos?  Old, not a fighter, not necessary going forward.  He's dead.

Soup Girl that looks like Shireen?  gonna be the wight that kills Davos.  Dead.

Alys Karstark?  Too many spitfire girls on the show as it is and you don't even get lines.  Dead.

Grey Worm and Missandei?  That Naath plan was the most "Two Days Away From Retirement" speech I ever heard.  Dead and Dead.

Next week should be a lot of fun if you like crying. 

[and I continue to have a funny feeling Theon is going to live.]

All those Ironborn who accompanied Theon might as well have red shirts on. Dead.

Just occurred to me that assuming Bran can't/won't have children, this is the end of the Stark line.

On 8/31/2017 at 2:54 PM, nara said:

He and Jaime both take a few seconds longer than they should to react, but they both step between Cersei and the wight. Had to slomo watch to see it.

Re: awkward Jonerys sex, I realized that one of the things that bothered me was him going to her room. Once Jon bent the knee, going to her room was disrespectful of his queen and presumptuous. If she had gone to him, that would be different. 

Every time I watch that scene I keep thinking the wight is trying to bite Cersei and infect her. Then I remember it doesn't work like that. So really, a weaponless wight is not that much of a threat.

On 8/29/2017 at 4:54 PM, Titan of Bravos said:

Speaking of Cersei's impenetrable bodyguard, anyone else notice that he didn't step out in front of his liege when that wight was charging at her?

It looked like he drew his sword but was unable to position himself in front of Cersei in time. Wights seem to be faster than living beings, something Jon neglected to mention at the meeting. He also left out that the Wights are led by White Walkers who are super strong, intelligent, and immune to fire. And their General, the Night King, has supernatural powers, able to raise dead animals as well as giants and bad enough to bring down a dragon. Perhaps if he did Cersei would have taken the threat more seriously.