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  1. In this two entries in Eratta In Chapter 59, Catelyn IX, it is said that Catelyn is welcomed by Lord Walder Freyin his hall while he is surrounded by "twenty living sons (minus Ser Perwyn, who would have made twenty-one), thirty-six grandsons, nineteen great-grandsons, and numerous daughters, granddaughters, bastards, and grandbastards".[28] While Walder Frey indeed has twenty-one sons,[N 1] he has thirty-one trueborn grandsons[N 2] and seventeen trueborn great-grandsons[N 3] at the time.[N 4] Furthermore, the listing from the Appendix from A Clash of Kings makes it likely that not all of them are present at the Twins. Although the locations of each of these characters at the time of Catelyn IX are not confirmed, by the start of A Clash of Kingsthey are the following: listed as serving as a page are Willem Frey (at Ashemark), Emmon's son Walder (at Casterly Rock),Robert Brax (at Casterly Rock), and Wendel Frey (at Seagard); Further listed as being away from the Twins are Zachery Frey, being trained at the Sept of Oldtown,Luceon, in service as a septon at the Great Sept of Baelor in King's Landing, Robert Frey, in training at the Citadel in Oldtown,Willamen, in service as a maester atLongbow Hall, Bradamar Frey, being fostered in Braavos, and Malwyn Frey, being apprenticed to an alchemist in Lys. Additionally, Walder's son Geremy is said to have drowned, while Aenys's son Aegonis identified as an outlaw.[29] Here replace this: Emmon's son Walder (at Casterly Rock), With: Emmon and his sons and grandsons (at Casterly Rock). In Note1 replace Geremy with Elmar Add after this: While Walder Frey indeed has twenty-one sons, This: After Geremy's death, Cut this: Additionally, Walder's son Geremy is said to have drowned Replace number of grandsons from 31 to 29( I guess at the time means during that chapter) 2)Ser Ryman Frey refers to his grandfather, Lord Walder Frey, as his father when Robb Stark arrives at the Twins for Edmure Tully's wedding.[63] However, this might not necessarily be a mistake, as Robb refers to Walder as Ryman's father as well,[63] while Ser Walder Rivers, Walder's bastard son, refers to him as his "father" (correctly) and "grandfather" (incorrectly) in the same conversation. Add this: There is also a posibility, given the fact that Ryman's father is death, this was hidden threat to Robb.
  2. I found possible errata. In AGOT Catelyn IX it is mentioned that Walder is surrounded by twenty living sons (minus Ser Perwyn, who would have made twenty-one), thirty-six grandsons, nineteen great-grandsons, But there are several problems Walder had only 29 grandsons and 17 great-grandsons from trueborn Freys during events of that chapter, and some like Bloodborn or Cleos shouldn't be there. Second, without Geremy, he has 21 son. But, Emmon shouldn't be there, same with Luceon and Willamen.
  3. http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Eastercon_Interview I like subtlety, I like ambiguity, I like leaving things that my readers need to figure out, and some of them will find it, and some of them maybe won't find it and then they'll be discussing it with each other... If we get to Dance with Dragons, the...the...the pies that Lord Manderly serves to the occupiers of Winterfell, that's...Not everybody gets that in the books.
  4. I found this on errata page Ser Ryman Frey refers to his grandfather, Lord Walder Frey, as his father when Robb Stark arrives at the Twins for Edmure Tully's wedding.[61]However, this might not necessarily be a mistake, as Robb refers to Walder as Ryman's father as well,[61] while Ser Walder Rivers, Walder's bastard son, refers to him as his "father" (correctly) and "grandfather" (incorrectly) in the same conversation.[62] It is possible that Ryman in subtle way said to Robb that his going to die.
  5. From House Frey page: Osmund Frey, Benfrey's son. A newborn babe. Two year old isn't a newborn.
  6. The Hound?" said Brienne. "Another, just as brutal. He cut poor Clement's tongue out when he would not speak. Since he had taken a vow of silence, the raider said he had no need of it.
  7. My biggest problem is fact that Arya criticised Freys for not kiling all Starks, yet she only killed adult males.
  8. Well, judging from Narbert's words it seems that unknown attacker mutilated Clement, though one could say that his words were ambigious.
  9. I meant this: One of the attackers from his page vs Rorge from Raid on saltpans page. ps: what about theory?
  10. It is not my theory and there is error that must be fixed below. From raid on saltpans page : Rorge had his tongue ripped out when he refused to break his vow of silence, declaring that Clement had apparently no need of it anyway. Yet Clement page says: One of the attackers cut Clement's tongue out, saying he no longer needed it if he had taken a vow of silence.
  11. "There are no men like me. Only me." is very similar to "There are no women like me. I am unique." from Blake's 7
  12. From raid on saltpans page : Rorge had his tongue ripped out when he refused to break his vow of silence, declaring that Clement had apparently no need of it anyway. Yet Clement page says: One of the attackers cut Clement's tongue out, saying he no longer needed it if he had taken a vow of silence.
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