Kandrax

In this two entries in Eratta

In Chapter 59, Catelyn IX, it is said that Catelyn is welcomed by Lord Walder Freyin his hall while he is surrounded by "twenty living sons (minus Ser Perwyn, who would have made twenty-one), thirty-six grandsons, nineteen great-grandsons, and numerous daughters, granddaughters, bastards, and grandbastards".[28] While Walder Frey indeed has twenty-one sons,[N 1] he has thirty-one trueborn grandsons[N 2] and seventeen trueborn great-grandsons[N 3] at the time.[N 4] Furthermore, the listing from the Appendix from A Clash of Kings makes it likely that not all of them are present at the Twins. Although the locations of each of these characters at the time of Catelyn IX are not confirmed, by the start of A Clash of Kingsthey are the following: listed as serving as a page are Willem Frey (at Ashemark), Emmon's son Walder (at Casterly Rock),Robert Brax (at Casterly Rock), and Wendel Frey (at Seagard); Further listed as being away from the Twins are Zachery Frey, being trained at the Sept of Oldtown,Luceon, in service as a septon at the Great Sept of Baelor in King's Landing, Robert Frey, in training at the Citadel in Oldtown,Willamen, in service as a maester atLongbow Hall, Bradamar Frey, being fostered in Braavos, and Malwyn Frey, being apprenticed to an alchemist in Lys. Additionally, Walder's son Geremy is said to have drowned, while Aenys's son Aegonis identified as an outlaw.[29] 

Here replace this:

Emmon's son Walder (at Casterly Rock),

With:

Emmon and his sons and grandsons (at Casterly Rock).

In Note1 replace Geremy with Elmar

Add after this:

While Walder Frey indeed has twenty-one sons,

This:

After Geremy's death,

Cut this:

Additionally, Walder's son Geremy is said to have drowned

Replace number of grandsons from 31 to 29( I guess at the time means during that chapter)

2)Ser Ryman Frey refers to his grandfather, Lord Walder Frey, as his father when Robb Stark arrives at the Twins for Edmure Tully's wedding.[63] However, this might not necessarily be a mistake, as Robb refers to Walder as Ryman's father as well,[63] while Ser Walder Rivers, Walder's bastard son, refers to him as his "father" (correctly) and "grandfather" (incorrectly) in the same conversation.

Add this:

There is also a posibility, given the fact that Ryman's father is death, this was hidden threat to Robb.

On 18.4.2018. at 3:43 PM, Kandrax said:

I found possible errata.

In AGOT Catelyn IX it is mentioned that Walder is surrounded by twenty living sons (minus Ser Perwyn, who would have made twenty-one), thirty-six grandsons, nineteen great-grandsons,

But there are several problems 

Walder had only 29 grandsons and 17 great-grandsons from trueborn Freys during events of that chapter, and some like Bloodborn or Cleos shouldn't be there.

Second, without Geremy, he has 21 son. But, Emmon shouldn't be there, same with Luceon and Willamen.

I found possible errata.

In AGOT Catelyn IX it is mentioned that Walder is surrounded by twenty living sons (minus Ser Perwyn, who would have made twenty-one), thirty-six grandsons, nineteen great-grandsons,

But there are several problems 

Walder had only 29 grandsons and 17 great-grandsons from trueborn Freys during events of that chapter, and some like Bloodborn or Cleos shouldn't be there.

Second, without Geremy, he has 21 son. But, Emmon shouldn't be there, same with Luceon and Willamen.

http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Eastercon_Interview

I like subtlety, I like ambiguity, I like leaving things that my readers need to figure out, and some of them will find it, and some of them maybe won't find it and then they'll be discussing it with each other...

If we get to Dance with Dragons, the...the...the pies that Lord Manderly serves to the occupiers of Winterfell, that's...Not everybody gets that in the books.

I found this on errata page

Ser Ryman Frey refers to his grandfather, Lord Walder Frey, as his father when Robb Stark arrives at the Twins for Edmure Tully's wedding.^[61]However, this might not necessarily be a mistake, as Robb refers to Walder as Ryman's father as well,^[61] while Ser Walder Rivers, Walder's bastard son, refers to him as his "father" (correctly) and "grandfather" (incorrectly) in the same conversation.^[62] 

It is possible that Ryman in subtle way said to Robb that his going to die.

From House Frey page: 

• Osmund Frey, Benfrey's son. A newborn babe.  Two year old isn't a newborn.

My biggest problem is fact that Arya criticised Freys for not kiling all Starks, yet she only killed adult males.

2 hours ago, Rhaenys_Targaryen said:

@Kandrax, your opinion?

I like it.

4 minutes ago, Rhaenys_Targaryen said:

Wil check later today!

Will also witte a page for the theory you linked today or tomorrow.

 

BryndenBFish did a poll a while back about the beliefs of the fandom regarding multiple theories. Citing the outcomes of that poll to show the popularity of a theory might be an idea?

Where is  that poll?

2 hours ago, Rhaenys_Targaryen said:

Regarding the customs page, my personal preference for the title of the section currently titled "entertainment"  would be "pastimes", a term used both in the RPG guides and on the Citadel, as it creates more consistency. Are there any opinions on the title of the subsection?

 

Rorge was one of the attackers, so there is no real incorrection there. But I've changed it to "Rorge" on the page of Clement, as it gives more detail.

No one has replied about the theory page yet. When they do, it will likely be on this thread.

Well, judging from Narbert's words it seems that unknown attacker mutilated Clement, though one could say that his words were ambigious.

5 hours ago, Rhaenys_Targaryen said:

Fixed it!

I meant this: One of the attackers from his page vs Rorge from Raid on saltpans page.  ps: what about theory?

1 hour ago, Rhaenys_Targaryen said:

Based on this question:

 

What is the policy on placing theories on the wiki?

We have several of them, but I haven't been able to find a list of criteria a theory has to fulfil before it can get its own page. I've only found reasons for a theory to be removed.

That a theory has to have evidence to support the arguments seems cleae, but is what else?

It is not my theory and there is error that must be fixed below.

From raid on saltpans page : Rorge had his tongue ripped out when he refused to break his vow of silence, declaring that Clement had apparently no need of it anyway. Yet Clement page says: One of the attackers cut Clement's tongue out, saying he no longer needed it if he had taken a vow of silence. 

"There are no men like me. Only me." is  very similar to "There are no women like me. I am unique." from Blake's 7

From raid on saltpans page : Rorge had his tongue ripped out when he refused to break his vow of silence, declaring that Clement had apparently no need of it anyway. Yet Clement page says: One of the attackers cut Clement's tongue out, saying he no longer needed it if he had taken a vow of silence. 

From raid on saltpans page : Rorge had his tongue ripped out when he refused to break his vow of silence, declaring that Clement had apparently no need of it anyway. Yet Clement page says: One of the attackers cut Clement's tongue out, saying he no longer needed it if he had taken a vow of silence. 

Rorge killed Yoren 

So, Sansa not thinking about Sandor during flirting is reason why this chapter will be controversial. Seriously?