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  1. Arthur Peres

    Just how many people knew about the incest?

    Stannis, Jon Arryn, Varys, LF, Eddard, Pycelle, Kevan and Tyrion. So at the very least 8.
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    POVs you wished for and that you were weary of?

    Maybe, I'm do not know where the story is going after all, but any plot that Marg had was at least post poned after she is made prisoner. Marg would bring us a lot. The Tyrell family dynimics, her relationship with Tommen, how close LF is with the Tyrells and her toughts after the PW.
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    Cold-hearted Robb

    Agree acording to Tyrion "That was when he knew. You have given him up for lost, he thought. You bloody bastard, you think Jaime’s good as dead, so I’m all you have left" Robb should have traded Jaime for Sansa and something else.
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    POVs you wished for and that you were weary of?

    Include: Blackfish: I do find interesting that the 5 Kings have no POV, this keep us from see their future moves, that said, I do think it was awkward how Robb simply vanish during ACoK. A Blackfish POV would give us more information about the lore with the war of the ninepenny kings, would show us Westerlands as a region, how the commanders saw Robb leadership, what did they know was happening and maybe give us a little about Robb and Jeyne relationship. Loras: Just like Robb I think that we don't need a Renly POV, but Loras would show us some light in his character. The only character that really knows Renly and we have as a POV is maester Cressen and he still think of Renly as a kid. Loras could also give us the Tyrell side that are a major players but have no POV on their own and their family dynamic. Loras also do not seem to be much of a plotter and would not ruin anything Exclude: Asha: We have soo much Greyjoys as POV. Theon Victarion Aeron...Victarion and Aeron are present to build Euron as a character, Victarion would be enough if he was close to Euron, but since he is not we need Aeron to show us the action and not just rummors. Asha on the other hand is not really necessary as a POV, the most important moments of her story so far are saw through the eyes of other characters. The return of Theon, Balon's death, The kingsmoot, even her capture could be replaced by she meeting Theon in Stannis camp at Winds of Winter. Replace: Margaery/Cersei: The same events but from another POV. Cersei chapters are too unpleasent and bitter, I do not like the prophecy of Maggy either because if it happens we already expect it in a way, and if not is something that didn't pay off. Margaery could give us just as much as Cersei but she would also surprise us more since she is caught by surprise by Cersei's plot during AFFC. The down side would be a little similar with Sansa's chapters but Margaery is a complete diferent character, much more quickly and not so defenseless as Sansa was.
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    Would Lyanna start a war for Robert if Rhaegar kidnapped him?

    No but Ned would.
  6. I doubt very much that Lyanna would go out of her way to abort all of Robert's sons and daughters while trying to pass bastards as legit heirs and jeopardize the whole sucession crises and starting a civil war. Robert being miserable was the least problem with the Cersei's issue.
  7. sure. because you're taking the side of the guy literally called "the Mad" and you think cruel executions without trial or evidence based on pure paranoia is the right side of story....
  8. No they werent plotting anything.. No they didn't deserve anything they were the offended party on the issue. No Aerys didn't had the right and got deposed for it.
  9. The King was a pyromancer lunatic and his son was a self righteous prick that got what he deserved by Robert.
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    Your biggest what if?

    What if Balon had accepted Robb's offer and invaded the Westerlands What if Ned sends Loras together with Beric What if Robert survives the boar What if Stannis had telled Robert instead of Jon Arryn What if the Purple Wedding happens before the Red Wedding What if Tyrion and Bronn are killed in the Vale by the mountain clan
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    Should Martin have ended the War of Five Kings?

    This fit in "plot convenience". Ramsey should have been killed on the spot together with Reek. His disguise is even more dumb when you think about it. Why Rodrik was dumb enough to kill the son noble and potential heir to one of the strongest vassals of the Starks and let the peasant live?
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    Should Martin have ended the War of Five Kings?

    This is the problem. In a series that even after 300 years there are still bitter vassals claiming to have more right to Highgarden than the Tyrells because they were "stewards" suddenly is fine with a nobody, there is there for 2 generations, getting Harenhall and becoming a lord paramount of the riverlands (he's not even from there), while also he takes the lord of the Vale as his ward, and is never around his castle... Littlefinger does have a very strong plot armor, no way the Tyrells involved at the purple wedding would let him alive after he stabbed Ned and Joffrey in the back.
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    Red Wedding - Robb's failure justified?

    Most of the ambitions players at this point would know that supporting Robb, would be supporting a lost cause. The war was lost and Robb was too stuborn to give up. You could also say that they would be angry at Robb for breaking his vows and pissing on the sacrifice made by the Freys. Stevron as far as we know died fighting for his cause and Robb went on to break his vows to marry a nobody. We have Olyvar Frey refusing to leave Robb's side even after the Jeyne fiasco, but he was left out of the conspiracy. Robb as much incredible and inspiring as he was, was also the man that beheaded his bannerman for killing his enemies, broke his word, let his mother walk free after comminting high treason and was "the king who lost the north". He would be a very divisive figure. I agree with this point to a certain degree, but the Freys and the Boltons are paying to a certain level for they actions. We have Manderly murdering freys left and right, the Freys are hated by the realm after the RW being insulted at every turn, Roose is about to be betrayed by lords that he summoned, while we still have men fighting under Eddard's name in Dance.
  14. In the appendix of AGoT, Jaime is listed as Heir of Casterly Rock. Tywin never gave up on him.
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    If Robb had declared for Stannis, what would have changed?

    I don't think Renly would take Stannis offer anyway. Even with the back up of Robb and Edmure, they're still on the trident and can't help Stannis while Tywin sits on Harenhall, and I doubt Mace would take Stannis for his king.
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    Varys and Illyrio under the Red Keep

    When does Ned outwited or outplayed Varys?
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    If Robb had declared for Stannis, what would have changed?

    not much. The support of the North and Riverlands, give Stannis some prestige and strenght that he can show off to the stormlords. With this he might sway some stormlords to his cause since he has the better claim against Renly. Stannis still need to take Edric to prove that Joffrey is a bastard. He still has to take Storm's End, he still end up facing Renly. Maybe Robb does not send Theon to Balon and this stop the events of the RW but Stannis still loses Blackwater. Stannis might not go to rescue the wall, since he has a new army in the riverlands and without the RW the fight does not stop.
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    Could you have predicted ADWD events?

    I never would have guessed the assassination atempt on Jon. I always saw him as a gary stu, so I never thought that he could be killed, and I still not sure if he really died, and if he did I still belive he will be brought back to life. But it was a shock when a read it. Aegon was a shock. The Pink letter came out of nowhere and did surprised me a lot, without the thousands of theories about who wrote it, when I read it I really thought that Stannis was being written off in favor of Jon... then Jon got killed and I was lost. Brienne turning Jaime to LSH was something I would never guessed either, this still needs confirmation at TWOW but we know she is lying to him. To Winds of Winter, I see Aegon being a new Robb. Just, raised to rule, young charismatic, will have a early sucess, and then will be set up to fail by someone close to him, Jon Con or Arianne. I expect LF to fail this time. Is the first time we learn of his plans before they are done. Every time this happens it fails, Eddard trying to cease the keep, Robb trying to take back the Moat. Tyrion trying to rescue Jaime, Cersei trying to frame Marg and so on... it always backfires. Have no idea what will happen in the north.
  19. Tywin is the worst.
  20. Most of the list probably disagree with Aerys decision based on Jaime's age. He was too young for such vow. We know that Barristan thought it. Hoster Tully probably was angry about losing a bethrothal to Lysa. The Lannisters were probably shocked that their heir was taken away.
  21. First, she didn't. Second Jaime is a grow men and had plenty of oportunity to leave the white cloak while Tywin is alive, he is serving because he wants it, he swore a oath without any intention the keep it from day one. Even Robert and Ned call Jaime Tywin's heir he would have no problem getting out of the KG. Third, in this no sense order, Jaime should imprison Cersei because she is acting against the interest of the King by soiling his sister that is bethored for no reason what so ever, and then ignored the rest of this crazyness. Cersei is a regent but not the King, if she act against his interest is his duty to stop her. Fourth what is the point of this no sense exercise of absurde? Not even Aerys "the mad" send such order. I did read, I just can't agree with a single word you spoke. Jaime is not helding his promises, quite the oposite he is going out of his way to break them, while runing away from true responsability like Tyrion tell us. He can't take responsability and isnt mature or self aware enough to carry the weight of his actions. I could be wrong here, but he is the only character in the books that I remember comparing himself to gods... he probably is the most narcisistic of the bunch.
  22. When Aerys mocked the gods with Rickard and Brandon's trial by combat, and then demanded Robert and Eddard's heads he ceased to be a lawful king, contrary to what Joffrey or Cersei believe, being king does not put you above the law or give you free reign to do what you want. When Aerys commanded the wildfire plot and ordered Jaime to kill patricide he conspired to commit: genocide, filicide, infanticide, parricide, and deicide all things Aerys is not allowed to do. At that moment in time Aerys no longer had a right to call himself king or command Jaime. The laws of gods and men, and every oath Jaime has sworn demands that he stop Aerys from completing the wildfire plot and protects the life of the true king. Where Jaime made a mistake was in not protecting Aegon and Rhaenys after he killed Aerys. It can be argued that he needed to kill Aerys because there was no way he could subdue him that would prevent the Mad King from ordering someone who still (falsely) thought him to be king to do what Rossart failed to do.  Also Jaime isn't really saying that because he wasn't wearing white armor (though still the white cloak) he could not be held accountable for breaking his KG oaths.( At least in English he's not.) He's saying it sardonically, because there was literally no way for him to get out of that situation without being an oath-breaker in some form, he's saying he was essentially wearing one of his other "hats", similar to how there's Robb the Boy and Robb the Lord in Bran's perception. Jaime isn't making the arguments I'm making (at least not the way I'm making them.) because at the time he was seventeen and his lordly education ended at fifteen while I'm older than at least of fourth of Targaryen kings when they came to the crown (or died.). All of my arguments are ones that a skilled maester (or Tyrion.) could come up with. All of this is pointless. It does not matter if you wanna play the devils advocate here or not. The fact is Jaime swore a oath of celibacy already with all the intend to break it, then he swore a oath to protect Aerys and he killed him. And is not because Aerys "failed to protect the people" or he "mocked the trial of the Starks" Jaime himself tell us what he thought about them “I made no such claim. The Starks were nothing to me." Jaime is selfish, he refuses to take responsability for his words and actions, he is a oathbreaker, a kingslayer, a guest right breaker and if the most fan theories about the valonquar are correct a soon to be kinslayer, and he still thinks of himself as the victim of the war he and his sister started when they usurped the sucession line...
  23. He commanded a army to take their castle... no matter how you try twist it, is what he did. He broke his oath. And his words are meaningless like Blackfish tell us Ser Brynden laughed again. “Much as I would welcome the chance to take that golden sword away from you and cut out your black heart, your promises are worthless. I would gain nothing from your death but the pleasure of killing you, and I will not risk my own life for that … as small a risk as that may be.” “Are there any terms you will accept?” he demanded of the Blackfish. “From you?” Ser Brynden shrugged. “No.” his own camp agree with Bryden, Jaime's proposal is a joke. “Why would he deign to accept your challenge, ser?” asked Ser Forley Prester. “What could he gain from such a duel? Will we lift the siege if he should win? I do not believe that. Nor will he. A single combat would accomplish nought.” Just like the other guy you are hanging around in Jaime's logic like he can command someone to slew you but he cannot kill you himself... this is not how his oath works. He was never to take arms against the Tully, but he did and he threatned to kill Edmure's Child, his friends, his folk, and his men like you quoted yourself. No he doesn't. He resolved the siege the easiest way for him, his own camp was against storming the castle. The freys hold the supplies and the majority of the men, and they didn't want to storm the castle, the riverlords loyalith is dubious and Jaime can't control anyone there, he only resolved his own problems. “They are my walls,” protested Lord Emmon, “and that is my gate you would break.” He drew his parchment out of his sleeve again. “King Tommen himself has granted me—” “Storming the walls will be a bloody business,” said Addam Marbrand. “I propose we wait for a moonless night and send a dozen picked men across the river in a boat with muffled oars. They can scale the walls with ropes and grapnels, and open the gates from the inside. I will lead them, if the council wishes. “Folly,” declared the bastard, Walder Rivers. “Ser Brynden is no man to be cozened by such tricks. Since you touch on this subject. Jaime is breaking both oaths... and he is going out of his way to do it. He could do the better for everyone, stay on Kings Landing, not take swords, and tried to diminish Cersei's influence over Tommen, but he just don't care about anything but himself. “It will be up to us to finish his work. You must take Father’s place as Hand. You see that now, surely. Tommen will need you …” He pushed away from her and raised his arm, forcing his stump into her face. “A Hand without a hand? A bad jape, sister. Don’t ask me to rule.” “Rule? I said naught of ruling. I shall rule until my son comes of age.” “I don’t know who I pity more,” her brother said. “Tommen, or the Seven Kingdoms.” Like Tyrion putted. My brother, Jaime, thirsts for battle, not for power. He's run from every chance he's had to rule. Jaime refuses to take responsability is quite amusing that a book series working around young teens being forced to rule and take hard decisions, we have Jaime running away from his own acts while blaming everything but himself.
  24. This logic is flawed and laughble as Jaime's honor or his justifications that while murdering Aerys he wasn't in his KG armor. In his recollection he is fixated on the fact that he didn’t murder Aerys in his KG armor and that should count for something while he is conventinally forgetting that he swore a oath to protect the dude and ended up murdering him. The fact is he took sword against House Tully. He walked in push them out of they home, and went back with their lord in chains.
  25. He just lead an army to take the castle from the Blackfish, pushed Brynden out of his home by threatining to kill Edmure's child and then send scouts to kill the old Tully while he walked away with Edmure as his hostage. Yeah sure he is keeping his vows to Catelyn... the same way he keep them to Aerys.
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