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  1. Arthur Peres

    What if elia and children survive

    So you blame Robert for the deeds of Cersei and LF, and you blame Jon Arryn for getting murder... If anything Robert is the victim in these situations. Robert had plenty of faults but you don't adress any of them and blame him for the action of others...What's next you gonna blame Hoster for getting ill? The rebels had every right to fight for their lifes, and they don't have any blame for events that happened after their deaths. Cersei and Jaime are the ones that usurped the sucession line and Stannis the one that hold on information without telling anyone then flee the city letting his brother to die.
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    What if elia and children survive

    Mortimert deposed and killed Edward II, he then became a lover of Queen Isabella and was killed by Edward III, son of Isabella and Edward II. Viserys was 8 and old enough to remember fleeing from Westeros and already show signs of madness acording to Barristan. He cleary would demand vengence, and he was Aerys named heir.
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    Shouldn’t Robb have been betrothed at least?

    Lynesse Hightower comes to mind. She seems to be superficial enough to be a concubine rather than the wife of the chief of Lys, she was a daughter of a powerful and rich family and she wanted a luxurious lifestyle that Robert seems to enjoy since he pretty much bankrupt the kingdom in parties and tournament, she lost interest in Jorah because his defeat at tournaments and Robert was a legendary warrior in his lifestyle, she is described as pretty and she seems to be able to plot enough to treat the wife of the chief os Lys, she could prevent a plotter like Renly, and she is not at the do list of Jaime.
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    What if elia and children survive

    Exept that time that he started a civil war when he asked for 2 young lords head for no reason and doomed thousands of lives.
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    What if elia and children survive

    The Targs have a history of going mad already, you're not going to wait in line when is your life on the line. Robert had all the rights of rebellion and claiming the throne only came at the end when they needed a solution to replace Aerys and Rhaegar. Aerys named Viserys his heir, and Viserys already was mad, and we see that he wanted revenge... even Daenerys that never saw Robert or Ned hold a grudge against them, and idolize Rhaegar, there is no way in hell anyone would put their lifes on the line, asking for pardon for something that was right. Exactly, Robert had no desire for the thorne and never asked for it, it only happened because the responsable think to do when you top a regime is present a alternative path, and doing that Robert was much more responsable than Rhaegar that abandoned everything because he got horny and doomed his dynasty. he claimed the throne before the Trident, had nothing to do with killing Rhaegar. That was just poetic justice. Eddard, Jon and Robert had no blame at all. They were fighting to stay alive after a idiot, horny selfcentered prince wronged them and a mad king asked for their heads fos no reason. Neither of them took part on the sack of KL, and even after it, Robert could have killed Viserys at any moment but chose not to do it, Robert pardoned everysingle lord that took arms against him, and even called of the plot to kill Daenerys in his final moments. All the blame is on Rhaegar, he pissed of 3 of the most powerful families in one stroke, he abandoned his wife, he let his father that was a know madman use his family as hostages, and stayed in a honeymoon for close to a year while the realm burned in a civil war he helped start. He choose to not let a single KG to guard his family, but 3 to guard Lyanna, not to mention that he knighted the men that would murder his wife and kids.
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    Jaime as the Golden Lion

    let's see Let his brothers's wife be gang raped and lied about it, swear a oath to the KG with no intention whatsoever to keep it just to run away from a match his father made, pushed a 8 years old boy from a tower, tried to kill a 9 years old girl just because. of course his is not evil... he does not even need redemption.
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    What if elia and children survive

    During the Rebellion was made clear that Aerys and Rhaegar had to die, and once they dispose of them who would take the throne? Aegon VI? Viserys III? risk being target by the crazy dynasty again? Robert being crowed was the most logical decision that they could make. Rhaegar running away with Lyanna and abanoning his wife and kids, and letting the realm sink in a civil war is unforgivable. Aerys killing Brandon and Rickard and them asking for Robert and Ned's head when they were the victms is unforgivable.
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    Why is navy underutilized in Westeros?

    From fire and blood. "Thousands of years before the Conquest, when the Kings of Winter still reigned in the North, Brandon the Shipwright had built an entire fleet of ships to cross the Sunset Sea. He took them west himself, never to return. His son and heir, another Brandon, burned the yards where they were built, and was known as Brandon the Burner forevermore.
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    Shouldn’t Robb have been betrothed at least?

    Robb was 14, Edmure, Renly, Tyrion and Oberyn are much older and neither of them is betrothed either.
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    What if elia and children survive

    I blame Rhaegar more than Robert. He started it all with Lyanna leaving his wife and kids behind, then disapeard for close to a year and let his crazy father deal with the situation...Robert was only fighting for survivor when they asked for his head when he did nothing wrong at that point.
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    How could Edmure prepare riverlands

    Acording to Ned, Edmure mistakes was that he spread his forces all over the riverlands instead of massing them on a single spot. Edmure also went on the offensive and send Piper and Vance to attack Jaime at the Golden Tooth and once they lost, Jaimes path was clear... Edmure once again offered battle without his full force and lost and was captured at Riverrun. If Edmure had just picked one defensive position and massed his forces there to beat the Lannisters in one decisive battle or even a indecisive bloodbath he could had stopped everything in one go.
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    What if elia and children survive

    Bobby B is king so in this case they will die. If Bobby wanted to settle the situation without blood, Aegon would be sent to the wall and Rhaenys would be forced to join the silent sisters or married to Robert.
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    Should robb had stayed in north

    No. Robb had no chance of freeing Ned. Robb made everything right in his condition that he could to make it, but Joffrey executed Eddard anyway.
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    Why does Balon Greyjoy want to attack the North?

    As long as Balon is calling himself King, Tywin is comming for him sooner or later, Theon already warned Balon about it and his was too dumb to take notice. Balon should have either not declared his independence and demand control of the lands his seize in the north, or called himself king, declara independence take Robb's offer, and demanded some garantees for his support like some lands in Cape Kraken, like was Asha's idea in the Kingsmoot. The mess he came up with, makes no sense at all, and that's why he is mocked or called crazy by everybody. “King Balon’s longships are occupied for the nonce,” Lord Tywin said politely, “as are we. Greyjoy demands half the kingdom as the price of alliance, but what will he do to earn it? Fight the Starks? He is doing that already. Why should we pay for what he has given us for free?” “Balon Greyjoy thinks in terms of plunder, not rule. Let him enjoy an autumn crown and suffer a northern winter. He will give his subjects no cause to love him. Come spring, the northmen will have had a bellyful of krakens" Balon could be deaf to things he did not wish to hear. .Balon refused to see what was plain before him Balon had been blind in some respects. A brave man but a bad lord “Call yourself King of the Iron islands, no one will care . . . until the wars are over, and the victor looks about and spies the old fool perched off his shore with an iron crown on his head.” “Balon was mad, Aeron is madder, and Euron is maddest of them all,”
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    Why does Balon Greyjoy want to attack the North?

    his last words about Theon are the following: They had spoken in the Sea Tower, as the wind howled outside the windows and the waves crashed restlessly below. Balon had shaken his head in despair when he heard what Aeron had to tell him of his last remaining son. “The wolves have made a weakling of him, as I feared,” the king had said. “I pray god that they killed him, so he cannot stand in Asha’s way.” Balon never changed his mind about Theon... wich is more than moronic, since Theon has more achiviments than Balon himself as a warrior.
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    Why does Balon Greyjoy want to attack the North?

    Exept that Balon was the one that didn't understand what would happen down the line, even Theon knew and told it on his face... “Take it, then,” he spat, his cheek still tingling. “Call yourself King of the Iron islands, no one will care . . . until the wars are over, and the victor looks about and spies the old fool perched off his shore with an iron crown on his head.” “A long cold swim, for a crown you cannot keep. Your father had more courage than sense. The Old Way served the isles well when we were one small kingdom amongst many, but Aegon’s Conquest put an end to that. Balon refused to see what was plain before him. The Old Way died with Black Harren and his sons.” Balon didn't even understand his own people That was Balon’s blindness; he saw himself in his wild, headstrong daughter, and believed she could succeed him. He was wrong in that, and Aeron tried to tell him so. “No woman will ever rule the ironborn, not even a woman such as Asha,” he insisted, but Balon could be deaf to things he did not wish to hear.
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    Why does Balon Greyjoy want to attack the North?

    Theon made a miracle, and even this wouldn't save the campaing as Asha and Tywin tell us. "To end this war before this war ends us. We have won all that we are like to win … and stand to lose all just as quick, unless we make a peace." A fisherman may hook a grey leviathan, but it will drag him down to death unless he cuts it loose. The north is too large for us to hold, and too full of northmen.” “Balon Greyjoy thinks in terms of plunder, not rule. Let him enjoy an autumn crown and suffer a northern winter. He will give his subjects no cause to love him. Come spring, the northmen will have had a bellyful of krakens"
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    Why does Balon Greyjoy want to attack the North?

    I would also add that Balon choose to make his campaing during the winter... when all he would be able to do is sit on some castles and wait for hunger and cold to melt his army.
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    Why does Balon Greyjoy want to attack the North?

    Balon was never logical with his plans, reason is not something the man knew. When he start to explain his strategy he ignores the only person in the room that lived in the north and knows the place and the people much better than anyone else (Theon). When Theon pulled out a miracolous move by taking Winterfell instead of send reinforces or praise him, he prayed that he died. And there still he plea for Tywin's when he is trying to break free from Tywin's grandson.
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    Why does Balon Greyjoy want to attack the North?

    The same can be said about the Westerlands, Tywin draw even more of his forces away, and was cut out of his lands by Robb as Kevan tell us. “Jaime has left us in a bad way. Roose Bolton and the remnants of his host are north of us. Our enemies hold the Twins and Moat Cailin. Robb Stark sits to the west, so we cannot retreat to Lannisport and the Rock unless we choose to give battle." And Balon did not know of Ramsey making everything a mess, and even this only brought him some time. Balon never had any chance of taking the north... after all the events of Ramsey, Manderlys and Robb bringing his army south, Tywin said this about the IB: “Balon Greyjoy thinks in terms of plunder, not rule. Let him enjoy an autumn crown and suffer a northern winter. He will give his subjects no cause to love him. Come spring, the northmen will have had a bellyful of krakens" During the Greyjoy Rebellion Jason Mallister alone was capable of driving them out. Irony or not the only sucess Balon enjoyed during his revolt was against Tywin, and now he seems to fear him.
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    Why does Balon Greyjoy want to attack the North?

    Balon was afraid of Tywin.
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    Robb/margaery pairing?

    If marrying Joffrey or Tommen to Marg was out of table, for whatever reason (let's say Tyrion sends Cersei to make the alliance like he first intended and she botched it like usual), what would be the next step for the Tyrells? Send Loras to Daenerys? Send Loras to Shereen? Go back to neutral? Could Varys send them information about (f)Aegon? how far behind would Robb pairing be?
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    Robb’s Strategy

    I agree with you here on Doran, making impossible for Tywin to seat Myrcella on the IT, but I don't think any of the Westerlands lords would care about her gender, even with a shaking claim, it would be better for them than Stannis, that saw them as traitor.
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    Robb’s Strategy

    I don't see how Robb could know this. Robb never meet Balon, he does not know him, all he knew was that Balon tried a revolt against the throne before and if his interests remained the same they would be natural allies. The Starks didn't killed any of Balon sons, one died at seagard and the other at Pyke. “I forget nothing.” Ned Stark had killed neither of his brothers, in truth. Rodrik had been slain by Lord Jason Mallister at Seagard, Maron crushed in the collapse of the old south tower" Freeing Theon at the eyes of any other lord would be seing as a sign of goodwill and good faith. The Lannisters when starting to negotiate with the Tyrells also released one of the Redwyne twins, and the original idea was to release both. “I’ll include Horror and Slobber in my party, and send them on to their lord father afterward. A gesture of goodwill. We need Paxter Redwyne, he’s Mace Tyrell’s oldest friend, and a great power in his own right.” The poor use of worlds would not soft the blow. Balon was dead set on invading the north, and he wasn't rational about it, in truth he never cared about Theon and prayed for his death, keeping Theon would not stop Balon's invasion.
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    Renly's Plan and what he knew.

    His terms were not bad per se, he offered Stannis Storm's End after all.
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