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    Events you are most looking forward to see in TWOW

    I would be very interested in seeing how things play out with the dragons. If Daenerys is able to reestablish control over all three of her dragons and lands in Westeros (at the end of TWOW or at the beginning of ADOS) with all three of them along with a significant army of dothraki and unsullied I don't see how militarily anyone (fAegon, Euron, Cersei or anybody) can stop her. I mean Aegon I had just a few thousand soldiers when he started out to conquer the 7 Kingdoms but with his 3 dragons he made short work of all opposition (even though their armies were significantly larger than his). So what is the fate of the dragons? Does the dragon horn really work? Will someone else be able to establish control over any of the dragons? Will scorpions be effective? It seems that GRRM does not have a very constructive view of the dragons. In his interview following the release of Fire and Blood he commented that he viewed dragons as being destructive in nature and that they might help Daenerys to conquer but not necessarily to rule. So will any of the dragons survive till the end? I would be interested in what other people. Any thoughts?
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    House of the Dragon Series Order Announced

    Vhager was much larger than Caraxes but was much slower and less agile.
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    House of the Dragon Series Order Announced

    Dragon colors: Balerion: King Aegon I, of course black (died in 94 AC) Meraxes: Queen Rhaenys (Aegon I sister/wife), silver scales, golden eyes Vhager: Queen Visenya (Aegon I sister/wife), unknown Sunfrye: Aegon II, golden scales Vermathor: King Jaeharys I (initially), bronze Caraxes: Prince Daemon Targaryen, red scales Syrax: Queen Rhaenyra, yellow scales Meleys: Princess Rhaenys, scarlet scales, pink wings My best guess for Vhager is green (no specific reason)
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    House of the Dragon Series Order Announced

    Well we will probably have the dwarf fool Mushroom to contend with at some point so I'm not sure at least about the jokes.
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    House of the Dragon Series Order Announced

    That would be great. I really hope they will show in detail the "Battle Above the God's Eye" pitting Prince Daemon Targaryen riding Ceraxes (covered in red scales-perfect for a Targaryen) verses Prince Aemond Targaryen riding his dragon Vhager. These were two of the fiercest dragons at the time. Daemon reportedly jumped off his dragon and attacked Aemond on Vhager (Aemond had limited mobility as he had secured himself in his saddle) with Daemon killing Aemond by plunging his sword Dark Sister into the remaining eye of Aemond. Both riders and their dragons died, but Daemon's body was never found (leading some to believe he was rescued by his possible paramour Nettles (with her dragon Sheepstealer), but there is no reported evidence to support this, but who knows what they might change in the show-but probably not.
  6. Coming up with heroic characters is going to be quite a challenge if they do the Dance. But goes what guys. The Starks may end up once again as the heroic family. Perhaps they could greatly expand upon the the role of Lord Cregan Stark in the pre and actual battles and end, as the book, with an episode entitled “The Hour of the Wolf”. Stark haters may not take this too well. But on the other hand, it would provide an early sign of what GRRM has in mind for the ending of ASOIAF, which would be consistent with his initial title for the seventh book (“A Time for Wolves" instead of ADOS). I would love to see this.
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    Jon being resurrected?

    Good Queen Alysanne, sister/wife of Jaehaerys I, visited the NW on her dragon Silverwing. She tried several times to get Silverwing to fly north of the Wall but the dragon always veered off. This did trouble her at the time as her dragon had never before refused to go where she wanted her to go. So it would appear, at least in the books, that there may be some type of magical connection between the Wall and the dragons.
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    Last part of Season 1 Episode 10

    Not in the TV show
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    Master thread on what the Show means for the book plot

    Perhaps you are right, perhaps not. We shall see.
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    Master thread on what the Show means for the book plot

    In addition IMHO we also will see Daenerys' mental state become increasingly more paranoid in TWoW. She hallucinated on two occasions in ADwD with the most significant episode IMHO being a "visitation" from Quaithe while Danny was awake in her quarters in Meereen. Quaithe was clearly not really there bodily. IMHO Daenerys will see future "visitations" (hallucinations) from Quaithe warning her about individuals being out to betray her which will over time cause Daenerys to develop increasing paranoia. Paranoia combined with "I am the blood of the dragon" self-righteous grandiosity (even with possibly some good intentions) is a prescription for ultimate disaster. This is likely to be another deception for readers as the warnings from Quaithe will be interpreted by many as being helpful to Daenerys but ultimately will result in paranoia developing and building up to have the opposite effect. Just some thoughts I have.
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    HBO to order pilot for a Dance of Dragons spin-off show

    The War of the Dance of Dragons occurred during a Targaryen civil war in 130 AC and lasted about a year. It was a war between King Aegon II and Queen Rhaenyra fighting for the throne. King Aegon had 6 dragons verses Queen Rhaenyra's 15 dragons (one too young for war). By the end of the war only 4 dragons remained. The dragons were mainly killed fighting one another but around 5 were killed by the people of Kings Landing during a storming of the Dragonpit, which occurred towards the end of the war. In spite of the disparity in the number of dragons King Aegon won the war and fed his sister Queen Rhaenyra to his dragon Sunfyre (with Queen Rhaenyra's son, the future King Aegon III, watching). All the remaining Targaryen dragons were gone by153AC. While a number of dragon eggs remained no one was able to subsequently hatch any of them until Daenerys.
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    Who got the most screwed over

    It is true that we do not know yet of the exact cause of death of each of the four remaining dragons. Only Morning, however, remained under Targaryen control and was last reported to be with Lady Rhaena Targaryen in Dragonstone around 136 AC. Aegon III feared dragons and did not want to have anything to do with them and wanted Morning out of Kings Landing where she had initially made a lair in the Dragonpit. Sheepstealer vanished with Nettles (associate, maybe paramour, of Daemon Targaryen), and was last seen flying deep into the Moon of the Mountains in the Vale of Arryn. She may have become a fire witch and may have lived in a cave with her dragon. Cannibal was never really tamed or ridden and retired to his lair on the easternmost slopes of the Dragonmount on Dragonstone. Silverwing became wild and established a lair on a desolate isle in the middle of Red Lake in the Reach. So they all ended up being quite dispersed with the exact location of Sheepstealer being unknown. Perhaps there will be a plan instigated by some Maesters in the Citadel to kill the remaining dragons, but as they were quite dispersed it would take some doing (not to mention luck). Hopefully we will see this more clearly delineated in Fire and Blood, Volume 2. I agree with you that it would be nice to see how they actually died. The fire at Summerhill was a direct result of Aegon V's obsession with trying to hatch dragon eggs. In 259 AC pyromancers attempted to hatch 7 dragon eggs, apparently using wildfire, which got out of control and killed many, including Aegon V. The Septon at the time was against this attempt so perhaps even this was sabotaged in order to minimize even the possibility that new dragons would be hatched. Hopefully this also will be covered in the second volume.
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    Who got the most screwed over

    The answers to most all these questions can be found in The World of Ice and Fire. For example most all the dragons died during the Dance of Dragons war in 130AC. At the end of the war only 4 dragons survived (Silverwing, Morning, Sheepstealer, and Cannibal). By 153AC, during the reign of Aegon III, all the dragons had died. Contrary to what was said in the TV show the demise of the dragons had nothing to do with inbreeding and chaining them up (so they became stunted in size).
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    [Spoilers] Episode 806 Discussion

    New interview with Kit Harington about Jon Snow's role in S8. It's the 1st interview he's done since the premiere aired. Your final scene doubles as the final scene of the series: Jon Snow leading the Free Folk back into the true North. How did you read that final moment? I loved it. When I read it, that bit really made me cry. What really made me cry was on the paper: "End of Game of Thrones." But as far as an ending for Jon Snow, this character that I loved for so many years and had grown so close to, and had meant so much to me … seeing him go beyond the Wall back to something true, something honest, something pure with these people he was always told he belongs with — the Free Folk — it felt to me like he was finally free. Instead of being chained and sent to the Wall, it felt like he was set free. It was a really sweet ending. As much as he had done a horrible thing [in killing Daenerys], as much as he had felt that pain, the actual ending for him was finally being released. It doesn't look like Jon plans on returning to the Wall. In other words "He ain't going back" Full interview is here https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/emmys-bill-hader-jharrel-jerome-more-nominated-actors-reveal-favorite-scenes-set-rituals-1231708
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    will we see roasted Jon?

    My fanfiction here is that Daenerys will die in Jon's arm after he or Arya stabs her. Drogon lands in the throne room, too late to save her. Jon (the last Targaryen) stands up expecting to be killed by Drogon. Drogon rears up as if he is about to incinerate Jon but at the last minute turns his head and his flame burns down/ melts the Iron throne instead (the actual root of Daenerys' obsession and the root of why she has to die). Drogon will then pick up Dany's body and fly out of the room. As we see them flying away they will slowly disappear. Probably as good a guess as any. We shall see.
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